Star Trek: Classic or Dud?

! I never knew that was what happened to her!

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Grace_Lee_Whitney

Hey guys you should never watch the Sean Connery 007's.

Patrick McGoohan pwns pwns PWNS Connery & TOS on pretty much every level. There's some really good TOS episodes though, but stuff like Mudd's Women is like last episode of LOST territory. Does Kirk even get to do a flying jump kick in it?

Majel Barrett >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Grace Lee Whitney

That's an unfair comparison because Majel Barrett is the best.

what kinda amazed me when i watched space seed (original khan episode) was how i almost preferred it to st2... khan is such an interesting manipulative character, way more intriguing than in the movie (where he still rules)

i love the scene in that episode where kirk tricks him into sort've revealing who he is, and instead of getting angry like your standard villain khan just smiles and murmurs, 'excellent...excellent.' like he's so thrilled at having a worthy adversary at last.

totally. it's kinda more intriguing to me than the movie's roaring bad guy (who, like i said, still rules)

love mudd's women, balls otm. TOS is often more interesting for the characters and chemistry than for the ideas and storytelling, and mudd's women is one of the episodes that gets by on the former (though yeah, sexism).

Star Trek 2: The Wrath of Khan is just so well done, so well paced, and so classic in every way. Space Seed is good but TWOK is just miles away better than any other Star Trek product. Khan as a character may be fleshed out better in the TOS but some of his line readings of the film are just godlike.

i love it when he goes KHANNNNNN

Kirk does land a flying jump kick in space seed. just sayin.
Balance of Terror? (the one with spock's dad as romulan captain) is a pretty good if you want to see submarine battle in space a la wrath of khan.

'i, of course...remember you.'

they're still running with shields down.

of course! we are one big happy fleet!

allow me to introduce you to the only remaining... indigenous life form of ceti alpha v.

i don't know you. but you... i never forget a face.

(even faces that did not appear in the original episode)

Return of the Archons had a great story, but it went completely off the rails when Kirk talked the computer to death.

i posted about this upthread i think but the end of this episode made me lol so hard when kirk just blows up this computer that's been controlling the entire civilization for a million years or whatever, and his idea of postrevolutionary support for the terrified and confused people whose lives he's just fundamentally disrupted (in an unusually egregious violation of the prime directive) is to just say "HOPE YOU'RE UP TO IT" and beam away blithely. which reminds me of another one: "admiral kirk... never sent anyone to check on our progress."

"You are in a position to demand nothing. I, on the other hand, am in a position to grant nothing."

"I'll chase him round the Moons of Nibia, and round the Antares Maelstrom, and round Perdition's flames before I give him up! "

Anybody else going to this? http://www.startrek.com/article/tng-25th-anniversary-movie-event-tonight

I'm pretty excited.

sold out, bummer

I object to you. I object to intellect without discipline. I object to power without constructive purpose.

Hard to argue with Picard

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2012/al11/al112012.discus.020.shtml

TROPICAL STORM KIRK DISCUSSION NUMBER 20
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL112012
1100 AM AST SUN SEP 02 2012

KIRK IS NOT EXPECTED TO LIVE LONG AND PROSPER. VISIBLE SATELLITE
IMAGES AND A 1214 UTC ASCAT PASS INDICATE THAT THE SYSTEM STILL HAS
A CLOSED CIRCULATION BUT IT IS BECOMING ELONGATED. MAXIMUM
RELIABLE WINDS IN THE ASCAT PASS WERE AROUND 45 KT SO THE INITIAL
WIND SPEED IS HELD AT THAT VALUE. KIRK WILL LIKELY BECOME
POST-TROPICAL LATER TODAY OR DISSIPATE JUST BEFORE IT MERGES WITH A
FRONT THAT IS CURRENTLY LOCATED ABOUT 200 N MI TO ITS WEST.

http://screenrant.com/star-trek-captain-worf-tv-show-michael-dorn/

"Perhaps today is a good day to die have your show cancelled mid-season."

https://www.google.com/

No, really.

:D

the best part is getting it to play through to the credits

never knew "City on the Edge" used Mayberry sets!

http://io9.com/5941608/10-things-you-probably-didnt-know-about-star-trek-the-original-series

Two things I'd be interested in re: Worf.

1. Return of the Donna Karan?
2. After 15+ years as Worf, is he *still* going to search for the right word whenever he means to say something is without....... HONOR?

I guess the Klingons have 200 words for honor, so he searches for a few "near" alternatives to the one he means in case we have a different word for any of them?

Well, universal translator, but Mr. Woof was brought up by hew-mans (Russian Jews, in fact), so as fanwank, that's actually really good!

The Rozhenkos were Jewish? DId Worf have a Batleth Mitzvah?

what's klingon ritual suicide called? you have to do that now philip.

Not canonically Jewish (err), but I had this compendium that said that the actors playing his parents were big on the Yiddish stage and the writers tried to play that up (details are a bit foggy).

Peter David agrees:

"Young Worf Rozhenko turned to face his parents. They were so beaming with pride... What was the word he'd heard his foster mother use? K'Velling. It sounded vaguely Klingonese, but his mother insisted it was some ancient tongue called Yiddish. "

David, Peter. Worf's First Adventure (Star Trek: TNG: Starfleet Academy). New York: Pocket Books (1993); pg. 2.

oh man, Peter David writing Star Trek is maybe a thing I don't need to experience

dude has written dozens of Trek novels and years of comics

oh, I know and... I have avoided it thus far, and that snippet reminds me that I don't need the backstories for my television and movie characters

Perhaps today IS a good day to kvetch!

I'm watching original series "A Private Little War". The Russian/Klingon thing is usually a good, thoughtful socio-/political commentary. With fist fights, lasers, and 60's pop futurist design thrown in for good measure. Classic science fiction at its best imo.

In the first minute or so Kirk is talking like a hippie. Sometimes in these you get the feeling Kirk is searching the stars for the right planet to settle down and retire.

It's always "This place is wonderful! It's like the Garden of Eden." and then as soon as they arrive shit just keeps hitting the fan.

http://startrekreview.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/tmmugato.jpg

The guy who designed Mega Man must have been a fan of Star Trek.

Wow Spock and Kirk are both nearly dead in this one i wonder if they make it out alive?

http://www.scifibabes.co.uk/images/nonanancykovack.jpg

Who's going to Burning Man?

http://www.starshadow.net/war13.png

Spock has green blood.

They ended up actually talking about Vietnam, and it ended on a real down note, but had some very intelligent criticism about that whole thing.

Hey, lookit that, you can watch the whole ep online:

http://www.startrek.com/watch_episode/TWrIDKPOVz18

Amazon has it downloadable for two bucks american

http://www.amazon.com/A-Private-Little-War/dp/B000HR3ZO4

and the wiki: http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/A_Private_Little_War_(episode)

The original writer of this episode, Don Ingalls, put the pseudonym Jud Crucis on it after Gene Roddenberry rewrote it. Ingalls' original contained many more overt Vietnam analogies than what finally appeared. According to Allan Asherman's The Star Trek Compendium this script referred to Apella as a "Ho Chi Mihn-type" and the tribesmen wearing Mongolian clothes. Though friends with Roddenberry since their days as LAPD officers, Ingalls did not like the changes, and the pseudonym was his wordplay on "Jesus Crucified."

The original script called the creature a "gumato", but DeForest Kelley kept saying it wrong, so it was changed. The credits still retain the original name. Stock footage of the White Rabbit's footprints from "Shore Leave" were used for the mugato prints.

Perhaps today IS a good day to kvetch!

lol.