Nick Drake: why???

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Are there any other songs that Ledger was filmed simulating suicide to? Is this something he did often?

Mark, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 13:50 (fifteen years ago) link

that footage in question is pretty cool. very sombre.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/leicester/content/images/2006/10/19/dmu_head_in_hands_315x420.jpg

"Two Ears" Laybelle (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 13:53 (fifteen years ago) link

What was "the Ledge" listening to when he died, eh? Eh?

Sickamous Mouthall (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 13:56 (fifteen years ago) link

Meet On The Ledge?

Yehudi Menudo (NickB), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 13:58 (fifteen years ago) link

Fleetwood Mac, "The Ledge"

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 14:00 (fifteen years ago) link

"Close to the Ledit"

Mark G, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 14:05 (fifteen years ago) link

"Hey, what'd you do last night?"

"We decided to stay home-- wound up watching footage of Heath Ledger simulating suicide to Nick Drake's 'Black Eyed Dog'."

Mark, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 14:21 (fifteen years ago) link

"Cool, what a nice way to celebrate the memory of Nick"

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 14:23 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm holding out for:

Heath Ledger Simulating Suicide to the Music of Nick Drake: The Criterion Collection

Mark, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 14:31 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah i was WEIRDED out by the news (i wrote that gruniad article) but uh edited out all my joke-joke-jokes after reflection on the whole er suicide angle.

sean gramophone, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 14:56 (fifteen years ago) link

There isn't anything about this thing that doesn't make me want to puke.

I am a vampire, therefore I take garlic pills (Bimble), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 21:03 (fifteen years ago) link

words fail me, what a sick world.

alex in mainhattan, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 21:40 (fifteen years ago) link

that footage in question is pretty cool. very sombre.

I was expecting farcial slapstick.

^likes black girls (HI DERE), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 21:41 (fifteen years ago) link

a bunch of unrehearsed session musicians trying to accompany a man who obviously knows his own songs pretty well is never a recipe for success

http://www.cluas.com/indie-music/Portals/0/Blog/Files/14/151/Astral%20Weeks.jpg

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 22:03 (fifteen years ago) link

three years pass...

cool!

Bandersnatch Cumberbund (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 11 May 2012 22:50 (eleven years ago) link

it is going to rock SO HARD.
actually i think there's some recordings of her singing in one of the drake documentaries, and it's pretty nice stuff, you can tell that she influenced nick quite a bit. sort of seems like releasing something by the dude's mom would be the ultimate in barrel scraping, but i am curious to hear it.

tylerw, Friday, 11 May 2012 22:53 (eleven years ago) link

ian macdonald's essay on drake is classic.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 11 May 2012 22:55 (eleven years ago) link

oh here's a radio show about her: http://www.wnyc.org/shows/spinning/2012/apr/22/

tylerw, Friday, 11 May 2012 22:59 (eleven years ago) link

There's a couple of tracks on "Family Tree" she sings on.

Mark G, Friday, 11 May 2012 23:00 (eleven years ago) link

This is the missing link in the Nick Drake Story” (Joe Boyd)

We are pleased to announce the release of a privately-pressed CD plus a collection of poems by Molly Drake, Nick Drake’s mother.

Some of you will be aware of her songs having watched the film A Skin Too Few or having bought the compilation album Family Tree.

It is due the response from this exposure that we feel the time may be right to release some more material.

Molly Drake wrote and performed songs just for herself, her friends and her family. She did not seek publication for them or for her poems, which seem to have been deeply personal observations. Fortunately, for us, her husband made amateur recordings of her songs on tapes that have lain dormant for 60 years.

The sound quality of the recordings reflects their home-made nature as well as the age of the magnetic tape. Though they have been repaired and made listenable to, the recordings have not been over-restored, since we feel that the sound quality is an integral part of this first experience of Molly’s music. The entire recording was engineered by John Wood, Nick Drake’s friend, engineer and co-producer of Pink Moon.

The 19 songs include How Wild The Wind Blows, I Remember, Poor Mum and Do You Ever Remember?

The CD comes with a 70 page booklet containing 45 poems housed in a card portfolio.

This initial edition is only available here:

www.alimentation.cc/nick_drake/cds/molly-drake.html

Lee626, Friday, 11 May 2012 23:11 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.alimentation.cc/nick_drake/cds/molly-drake.html

Mark G, Friday, 11 May 2012 23:19 (eleven years ago) link

two years pass...

so much drake action - http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/aug/06/nick-drake-book-unreleased-recordings
peel version of cello song is great, tho maybe it should be called flute song now?
and this! http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/aug/03/nick-drake-rare-tapes-auction-beverley-martyn

tylerw, Saturday, 9 August 2014 12:44 (nine years ago) link

and i wrote this thing too! http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/395-invisible-hits-the-unreleased-nick-drake/

tylerw, Saturday, 9 August 2014 13:36 (nine years ago) link

Excellent, tylerw!

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 9 August 2014 14:49 (nine years ago) link

man that Peel "Three Hours" is so so nice. feel so bad that dude could not find a way through.

Now I Am Become Dracula (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 9 August 2014 17:46 (nine years ago) link

What's the sound quality like?

Mark G, Saturday, 9 August 2014 21:12 (nine years ago) link

£35 for the normal version might well be pricey but fair

£150 for the 10" single and the fancy version?

Think I'll hang on for the illegal download or whatever

Mark G, Saturday, 9 August 2014 21:14 (nine years ago) link

six months pass...

"Road" is oftentimes my favorite Nick Drake song and is also proof that Nick Drake has the most incredible fingerpicking technique of anyone ever.
― Curt1s Stephens, Saturday, June 2, 2007 4:23 PM (7 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is accurate. did he use three fingers in addition to his thumb? trying to wrap my mind around some of his patterns... pretty mindblowing stuff

global tetrahedron, Monday, 23 February 2015 21:30 (nine years ago) link

i think i've read that nick used his right pinky at times

tylerw, Monday, 23 February 2015 21:36 (nine years ago) link

that would make sense. his thumb also sounds good at repeatedly striking the same string. would be hard if you're like me and used to octave-style string patterns.

so clean and droney. i love it. and this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IevsddOcJ7o

global tetrahedron, Monday, 23 February 2015 22:03 (nine years ago) link

yeah he's just so metronomic, unflappable. makes it seem like no big deal, but it obviously is.

tylerw, Monday, 23 February 2015 22:10 (nine years ago) link

Nick Drake: how???

tylerw, Monday, 23 February 2015 22:10 (nine years ago) link

haha yes

global tetrahedron, Monday, 23 February 2015 22:12 (nine years ago) link

Nick Drake: wtf???

tylerw, Monday, 23 February 2015 22:13 (nine years ago) link

"Road" is oftentimes my favorite Nick Drake song and is also proof that Nick Drake has the most incredible fingerpicking technique of anyone ever.
― Curt1s Stephens, Saturday, June 2, 2007 4:23 PM (7 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is accurate. did he use three fingers in addition to his thumb? trying to wrap my mind around some of his patterns... pretty mindblowing stuff

― global tetrahedron, Monday, February 23, 2015 4:30 PM (41 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I don't know about "anyone ever" -- I mean, classical guitarists all use three fingers and thumb in pretty complex patterns (and non-patterns).

walid foster dulles (man alive), Monday, 23 February 2015 22:14 (nine years ago) link

is there any known footage of him playing?

walid foster dulles (man alive), Monday, 23 February 2015 22:15 (nine years ago) link

nope

tylerw, Monday, 23 February 2015 22:17 (nine years ago) link

& yeah, classically trained people do all kinds of wild technique things on guitar, might be the fact that drake was untrained that takes it into a different realm.

tylerw, Monday, 23 February 2015 22:21 (nine years ago) link

^ yeah, makes his style more sui generis/idiocyncratic. i'm sure there are 'schooled' players who are technically superior but his chops are just kinda mysterious

global tetrahedron, Monday, 23 February 2015 22:23 (nine years ago) link

Where was it that I read that all those weird tunings he used is partly what made him such an awkward performer, and in turn heightened his depression? He'd play a song, then spend five minutes tuning, then song, tune ... etc. That supposedly is something the also forced Joni off the tour circuit. I know dudes like Richard Thompson generally try to stick or adapt to only a couple of tunings (standard and drop D, typically) with lots of capo use to get around the issue.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 23 February 2015 22:24 (nine years ago) link

that sounds a bit mythologized imo, like tuning can be annoying but it doesn't have to take five minutes. don't doubt that he was awkward though

global tetrahedron, Monday, 23 February 2015 22:26 (nine years ago) link

"schooled" just means someone showed you how to do something in person

walid foster dulles (man alive), Monday, 23 February 2015 22:26 (nine years ago) link

it means you just get owned a lot

global tetrahedron, Monday, 23 February 2015 22:28 (nine years ago) link

I mean I think Nick Drake is a great guitar player, I just don't buy into the "untrained" vs "trained" mythology. I have no idea whether he ever took a paid guitar lesson, whether he ever looked at a guitar book, or whether he ever sat down with other fingerpickers to learn picking patterns.

walid foster dulles (man alive), Monday, 23 February 2015 22:31 (nine years ago) link

he probably did all of that -- i just meant that he wasn't someone who was a classically trained guitarist. he mainly learned from listening to records, afaik.

tylerw, Monday, 23 February 2015 22:33 (nine years ago) link

I dunno, I've seen people take five minutes to keep a guitar in standard. If he was using a whole bunch of weird open tunings and doing it by ear, shit adds up. I read that Joni would have needed something like 35 tunings for her ideal set, since so many of her songs are in a tuning. She apparently got one of those Parker guitars and a MIDI box to artificially alter everything for her.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 23 February 2015 22:43 (nine years ago) link

http://www.guitarplayer.com/artists/1424/under-investigation-joni-mitchell-complete-so-far/50383

Says her songbook breaks down into 42 (!) tunings. Dunno how many Drake used.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 23 February 2015 22:46 (nine years ago) link

surely joni could afford 42 guitars

don't ask me why i posted this (electricsound), Monday, 23 February 2015 22:46 (nine years ago) link


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