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Ok, why isn't MMS more popular in the USA, Treo Lover!

I know texting is more popular outside the US because calls generally are untenably expensive.

or were untenably, perhaps

http://www.portioresearch.com/opinion_MMF.html

I agree somewhat with this based off of spending 30 seconds skimming it, which likely means it contains something shockingly wrong and/or out of date since it was published in 2007.

it doesn't have video recording either, but nobody's going to give a shit because it's got a built-in iPod and a web browser that works. The world's going to give up MMS just like it gave up playing Snake and setting a startup message.

Snow Leopard is nice as hell behind the scenes as well as having Exchange. OpenCL demo was awesome

MMS is hardly the same as Snake.

no, they're totally interchangeable; snake is just like a picture of my sister-in-law's new Honda Accord

you wouldn't believe the MMS my dad sent me.

They didn't stop playing games, though. It's just going to be Super Monkey Ball instead of Snake; and it's going to be uploading straight to facebook or Flickr instead of pissing about with tiny little pics that you can't do anything with except look at on a tiny screen.

Only if everyone can do that. Right now they can't.

I wish I could play Snake on my iPhone.

stet, your point reminds me of when video calling hit the market here five years ago. The few people who bought video phones had nobody to call so didn't use it.

It's fine to say people should do things a particular way, but the simple fact is that people are not. Technology should aid a transition of this nature, not force it by taking away the current option.

you're free not to buy an iphone

yes i know that

It's not so simple a fact that they're not doing it now: they're not doing it now because email is a pain in the tits on most phones. Who's to say what they'll do when it's easy?

I think that uploading to facebook is a much cooler thing for MMS's target market to be able to do, anyway. It's not that there's going to be a transition, it's that people are going to forget all about MMS, and do what they always wanted to -- share pictures with their friends.

(If MobileMe wasn't too expensive, it'd be an even better way of doing this, with its picture syncing)

I agree totally, but until that happens MoMuS has to be made available. Transitions can't be forced.

okay so they can obv, but it's bad practice.

i have a feeling more than five people are gonna buy an iphone.

why should apple support everything under the sun just on principle?

Apple is known for forcing transitions successfully: first Mac had no arrow keys so ppl would use a mouse, iMac created the USB market by having no floppy drive and virtually no other ports etc etc. Even when it supports old tech, it makes it a bit clunky so ppl will try to get off it asap (Classic, Rosetta)

Yeah transitions are routinely forced in this business. Microsoft, for example, forced everybody to buy anti-virus and anti-spyware in addition to the applications they wanted to use.

s1ocki: MMS is a bog standard phone feature. It's not like leaving electric windows off a car.

stet: I realise it works for Apple, but it's still going to piss off a hell of a lot of people. And in this case the hardware exists! If it didn't have a camera and colour screen there'd be a case for omitting it.

i really dont think this is going to piss off a hell of a lot of people

I don't see it pissing off many people when they can do what they ultimately want to do in better ways. Sure it'll might piss off die-hard MMS fans, but I'm not convinced there's that many of them.

i think there's one right here ;)

Outside the US loads of people use MMS. I rarely use it (four times a year, maybe) but I do receive a few and I'd like to be able to read them.

that's a totally diff thing. I suppose it should be able to read MMS's, but o2 in the uk just sends you a link to a webpage where you can see the pic, so I still don't miss it.

ya if you just get sent a link you can just copy and paste it to the browser!

also to clarify, lack of pic messaging is not a deal-breaker for me. It would be nice, but ultimately the iphone does about 600 things this rubbish Nokia doesn't do.

xp but you can't copy and paste amirite

HTTP is the future dogg

sms app autolinkifies

Yes, all this is pretty moot if the provider doesn't require you to type in a code in addition to clicking a link. Perhaps non-O2 networks in the UK will deliberately start requiring a code to piss off iPhone users.

Two operators in Australia have already confirmed availability and at least one other is expected to make an announcement, so there's every chance the UK will do the same. Competition = yay. I think the US is fucked though.

IIRC O2 have a similar exclusive deal to the AT&T one. Apple have only gone for no exclusivity where it is prevented by law or they couldn't strike such a deal by other means.

Ahhhhhhhhh.

Eeeeeeeenteresting.

No one knows how long the exclusivity deals last for, though, do they? The US is a bit more fucked, because you only have two GSM networks and the other one (T-Mobile) still has v.patchy coverage.

Oookay, this is a dumbass question, but does one have to pay extra for GPS? I mean, do you pay connectivity charges (or whatever you call it) or is it for free (once it's installed)? Would be handy for me cause I'm the dumbest person when it comes to orientation. This is someone who manages to get lost in her own neighbourhood. :-(

I stopped using MMS cause I'm too lazy to clean up my pictures. My phone is chockful of pixors and I can't add any new ones.

GPS is free. The mapping data can sometimes cost but is included free with the iPhone.

*drool* I'm the flakiest person when it comes to phones: I go back on forth on subscriptions and prepaid cards. Maybe time to switch back to a PLAN and an IPHONE. Weee.

GPS is free.

Thank you, US military satellites.

http://www.wireless.att.com:80/cell-phone-service/transfer-your-number/

ok why am i ineligible

If I change my zipcode to my former zipcode (that corresponds with my area code) it says I am eligible.

Are the 3G phones actually out yet, or was just this an announcement that they will be soon?

July

No guarantee of keeping your number? In 2008? What the DEUCE?!??

yea i know, wtf - :(

I kind of want to ask my parents to pay my cell bill so i can change service

The company I work for made that possible in Aus. In fact it's a legal requirement that all providers allow customers to retain mobile numbers without any conditions, and has been for nearly 15 years. Should be like this everywhere.

http://www.tuaw.com/2008/06/14/korg-nanoseries-music-controllers/#comments

I saw those too czn :D