― John (jdahlem), Thursday, 11 August 2005 18:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 11 August 2005 18:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 11 August 2005 18:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Thursday, 11 August 2005 18:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 11 August 2005 18:25 (eighteen years ago) link
I just feel like Hernandez would really benefit from five or six years' seasoning in the minors. I don't know why that's so hard to grasp!
― You Can Teach Pitching: The Dusty Baker Way (dayan), Thursday, 11 August 2005 18:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― You Can Teach Pitching: The Dallas Green Way (popshots75`), Thursday, 11 August 2005 18:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 11 August 2005 18:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 11 August 2005 18:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 11 August 2005 18:41 (eighteen years ago) link
is there a desperate need to believe that what we're watching RIGHT NOW is and ALWAYS WILL BE the absolute zenith of the ballplayer's greatness?
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 11 August 2005 20:05 (eighteen years ago) link
right now there's probably equal chances felix ends up prime pedro, aj burnett, or flames out completely. but he is, by almost all accounts, the most exciting pitching prospect to come around in a long time. and as far as i'm concerned to repeatedly deny yrself the chance to appreciate what he's accomplished and is capable of accomplishing in the name of some kind of bullshit levelheaded clarity of mind is a failing on yr part, not some triumph of reason.
― John (jdahlem), Thursday, 11 August 2005 20:20 (eighteen years ago) link
I used to be a highly-touted prospect too :(
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 11 August 2005 20:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 11 August 2005 20:30 (eighteen years ago) link
Hey tiger, all i've said is "wait and see".
I mean I read way too much about Jeff Francis a few years ago and just today he gets roughed up for 9 runs in 3 innings (sure, in Colorado... but 9 runs on only 3 XBHs, none of which left the yard).
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 11 August 2005 20:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― John (jdahlem), Friday, 12 August 2005 12:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 12 August 2005 13:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― Daniel Cohen (dayan), Friday, 12 August 2005 13:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― Listen to Dusty Why Don'cha (Barry Bruner), Friday, 12 August 2005 13:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― Listen to Terry Francona...You Know? (dayan), Friday, 12 August 2005 13:50 (eighteen years ago) link
(2xpost)
― John (jdahlem), Friday, 12 August 2005 13:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― Cito Gaston won two World Series ... and you didn't (Barry Bruner), Friday, 12 August 2005 14:00 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/the-next-big-thing/
― John (jdahlem), Monday, 15 August 2005 13:43 (eighteen years ago) link
"Let's wait and see" (ad nauseum).
― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 15 August 2005 18:59 (eighteen years ago) link
F. Hernandez (W, 2-1) 8.0 3 1 1 1 11 0 0.86
that's: KKKKKKKKKKKing
God he looked good tonight. That away pitch to righties is a thing of beauty. He got a little bored or tired in the 6th and 7th, getting to a couple of three ball counts, but still, damn. Course his arm could fall off tomorrow, Gygax is not wrong, but in my lost Seattle season, this is about all I have to be cheery about.
― jerginsk (jergins), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 04:47 (eighteen years ago) link
6 of the Ks came against the bottom third of the KC lineup, which I cannot be convinced is much different than your garden variety AAA competition.
― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 05:19 (eighteen years ago) link
Sat 20 MINThu 25 TEXTue 30 NYY
And if they give him another day's rest it'll be MIN/CWS/NYY. So, progressively more difficult. That seems good, should keep things interesting.
And yes, KC sucks.
― jerginsk (jergins), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 06:49 (eighteen years ago) link
i'd like to see him against top competition too but i really think it's all but irrelevant. he's 19, he can have a handicap. AAAA's a natural progression.
so his FB (does he throw 1 or 2) is described as "heavy" - how's the movement?
― John (jdahlem), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 12:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― John (jdahlem), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 12:49 (eighteen years ago) link
F-Her's first inning - 11 pitches, 10 strikes, 2 Ks.
― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 12:56 (eighteen years ago) link
"hernandez fans 11"
the curve looks filthy when he let's it drop off the table, but he leaves it up a fair amt even on the strikeouts there, maybe employing it in even counts or after a series of fastballs, i dunno. his change looks like the most underrated pitch in his arsenal - like his fb it tails but it's got quite a bit of sink as well. and to see what his fastball is capable of doing, check out the first pitch shown. inhuman, seriously.
― John (jdahlem), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 17:47 (eighteen years ago) link
lotsa good stuff, and this was esp. interesting [but you should read the whole post or it might sound way overconfident]:
"The average hitter Felix has faced so far has a season line of .269/.327/.406. Against Felix, they are hitting .153/.191/.153. He has cut the opponents hitters OPS by 53 percent over what they are against the rest of the league. For comparison, Roger Clemens average opponent has a season line of .256/.325/.405, and are hitting .188/.245/.255. Clemens has cut opponents OPS lines by 32 percent. Even adjusting for opponents, Felix has been dominant on a level that no other pitcher in baseball, even Roger Clemens, has matched."
― John (jdahlem), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 18:08 (eighteen years ago) link
From the USS Mariner:
More Felix FunFiled under: Mariners— Dave @ 8:17 am. Because there’s nothing else on the team that even begins to bring a smile to my face, here’s more musings on the greatness of Felix Hernandez.
Through four starts, King Felix has faced 107 batters and allowed 0 extra base hits. How good is that? He’s tied Mariano Rivera for the fourth longest streak of batters faced without giving up an extra base knock on the season, and if his next start is anything like his first four, he’ll stand alone at the top of the list. Here it is, for those who are curious.
Kyle Farnsworth, 125 batters faced, May 2nd to August 4thSergio Mitre, 115 batters faced, May 29th to June 24thNoah Lowry, 113 batters faced, July 26th to August 17thMariano Rivera, 107 batters faced, April 9th to July 2ndFelix Hernandez, 107 batters faced, August 4th to present
The craziest name on the list (which I got from the awesome Keith Woolner-thanks Keith): Shigetoshi Hasegawa, who faced 76 batters from May 29th to July 29th without allowing an extra base knock. Who knew?
Going back to the past 33 years (all that we have play by play data for), by the way, the record belongs to Bob Welch at 223 batters faced.
Okay, how about something else? The chances of different events occurring in any given at-bat against Felix through his first four starts:
14.95 % chance of a hit0.00 % chance of an extra base hit3.74 % chance of a walk0.93 % chance of being HBP28.04 % chance of striking out42.06 % of hitting into a groundout10.28 % chance of flying out
If you want a comparison, here’s Dwight Gooden’s percentages from his crazy 1985 season, when he won the Cy Young at age 20.
18.59 % chance of a hit3.66 % chance of an extra base hit6.48 % chance of a walk0.19 % chance of being HBP25.16 % chance of striking out
Opposing batters put up a .201/.253/.270 line against Gooden that season. The average line for the hitters he faced that year was .253/.319/.375. In other words, Gooden knocked 25 percent off a normal hitters line when he faced him. Felix is cutting 53 percent off the average line of the hitters he has faced, turning them into a collection of pitchers. People are hitting .157/.196/.157 against him. That’s… there’s no words for that.
Lets see, what else. Among major league starting pitchers who qualify for the ERA title, here are the league leaders in a few categories, and then Felix’s numbers next to those:
ERA: Clemens, 1.56 - Felix, 1.24Fielding Independant ERA: Clemens, 2.61 - Felix, 1.60Component ERA: Clemens, 1.64 - Felix, 0.70 (!)G/F: Webb, 3.90 - Felix, 4.25BB/G: Silva, 0.5 - Felix, 1.4K/G: Peavy, 11.0, - Felix, 10.4Line Drive %: Lowe, 15.5 percent - Felix, 11.0 percentOpponents OPS: Clemens, .507 - Felix, .353WHIP: P. Martinez, 0.89 - Felix, 0.67Pitches/Inning: Silva, 12.0 - Felix, 13.4 (Felix would rank a measly 2nd in the majors)
Among starting pitchers, his groundball rate is the best in the majors, his strikeout rate is second best, and his walk rate would tie him for sixth best. He’s given up less line drives than anyone else. It’s not even close, actually. His rate of baserunners per innings is off the chart. And he’s doing it with less pitches than everyone other than Carlos “Walks Are A Ticket To Hell” Silva.
How about this one. Game Score is kind of a gimmicky stat developed to summarize a pitchers start in one number (which is almost impossible), but its kinda fun to look at. The highest average game score this year belongs to Roger Clemens (of course) at 66.3. Felix’s average game score? 72.3. His average game score in his last three starts, where he wasn’t on a restrictive pitch count? 77.3.
Through four starts, Felix has been a mutant combination of Randy Johnson’s strikeout dominance, Greg Maddux’s control, Roy Halladay’s efficiency, and Brandon Webb’s groundball rate.
His next start is at home on Friday against the White Sox. Buy tickets. Go to the game. Don’t miss the King in action. Good luck, White Sox.
― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 22 August 2005 18:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― John (jdahlem), Monday, 22 August 2005 19:01 (eighteen years ago) link
I'll be at the game Friday. Should be good.
― jerginsk (jergins), Monday, 22 August 2005 19:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― Leeeeeeee (Leee), Monday, 22 August 2005 21:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 22 August 2005 21:38 (eighteen years ago) link
Anyway, you guys can have your rookies because when Halladay comes back I will kick all of your sorry asses.
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 22 August 2005 22:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 01:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― jerginsk (jergins), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 02:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 19:03 (eighteen years ago) link
*23 year-old ChiSox prospect Brian N. Anderson. If he can hit 2 HRs off the "Best Pitching Prospect in baseball", surely he must be equally as impressive? Especially since his Tacos Supremas both came off of Felix's "unhittable" curveballs?
So this Wednesday: King Felix vs. Big Unit in Seattle, I'm gonna try to tune in.
― gygax! (gygax!), Sunday, 28 August 2005 16:53 (eighteen years ago) link
There is no reason for a 19-year-old on a last-place team to go over 100+ pitches in a start after a full season of minor-league work.
― David R. (popshots75`), Sunday, 28 August 2005 17:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dustyyy Bakeeer (Leee), Sunday, 28 August 2005 17:24 (eighteen years ago) link
MarinerDan (SF, CA): Joe, what is your best prediction for the career path of Felix Hernandez? What's the upside and what is the downside?
Joe Sheehan: I think he'll be one of the five best pitchers in the AL for his next 50 starts or so, then miss some non-trivial amount of time to an arm injury. What happens after that is anyone's guess.
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 29 August 2005 15:15 (eighteen years ago) link
VERSUS RANDY JOHNSON!
MOJO DOJO!
― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 13:30 (eighteen years ago) link
Lots of great quotes in this one:
In the seventh inning against Kansas City, he had a hint of trouble with runners on first and third, two outs and a 3-2 count to Mark Teahen. Catcher Yorvit Torrealba called for a fastball. Hernandez shook him off. Torrealba called for it again and Hernandez shook him off again. "I thought, 'O.K., this is interesting,' " Torrealba said. Hernandez came in with an 84-m.p.h. changeup, striking out Teahen.
"I've caught other young guys before and all they want to do is throw their fastball because that's their best pitch and they can locate it," Torrealba said. "But this guy, for 19 years old, man, that's nice. He's acting like he's been around for a long time."
― d4niel coh3n (dayan), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 15:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 17:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 17:23 (eighteen years ago) link
And yet he still looked pretty good against the Yanqs, his K:BB trend is definitely regressing but WHIP remained solid against one of the most dangerous offensives in the game.
I think I'm gonna go see him on Labor Day.
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 1 September 2005 03:52 (eighteen years ago) link
at least he got that funny strikeout of beltre the other day (before beltre went deep on him) : /
― mookieproof, Friday, 10 August 2018 14:05 (five years ago) link
figured this day was coming but it sucks that it happens the one year the Mariners are actually kinda good
this sorta happened to Verlander too but he bounced back, maybe there's hope for the ol' King. he's only 32!
― frogbs, Friday, 10 August 2018 14:07 (five years ago) link
Gets a spot start tonight because Paxton is on the DL
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 20 August 2018 16:58 (five years ago) link
Should have been traded at the end of the 2016 season. He’s been worthless this last couple years.
― brotherlovesdub, Monday, 20 August 2018 20:02 (five years ago) link
felix hernandez, 2016-2019
434 IP, 77 GS 26-31, 4.79 ERA, 4.96 FIP, 4.43 xFIP, 1.36 WHIP7.44 K/9 (19.1 K%), 3.27 BB/9 (8.4 BB%)
― these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Sunday, 12 May 2019 15:16 (four years ago) link
so what you're saying is that he'd be the no. 1 starter for the 2019 orioles
― mookieproof, Sunday, 12 May 2019 18:56 (four years ago) link
Since his debut in 2005, Félix Hernández has made more starts at T-Mobile Park than any other pitcher at any single ballpark. On Thursday, he will make his final start of the season at T-Mobile Park. More: https://t.co/91j2vZb9lf pic.twitter.com/Lq4dX4IV5u— MarinersPR (@MarinersPR) September 23, 2019
Seattle's first glimpse of King Félix. 👑#HappyFélixDay #TBT pic.twitter.com/fsxOEAAFUo— Seattle Mariners (@Mariners) September 26, 2019
― Andy K, Friday, 27 September 2019 00:10 (four years ago) link
is he officially retiring – or is everyone just assuming he's done?
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 27 September 2019 01:27 (four years ago) link
Likely done with the Mariners. He has said that he doesn’t want to retire.
― Andy K, Friday, 27 September 2019 02:31 (four years ago) link
An appropriate send-off from the mariners offense.
― JoeStork, Friday, 27 September 2019 04:06 (four years ago) link
Since Felix’s 2010 season, there’s only been 5 pitchers who pitched 240 innings in a single season. Wainwright, Cueto, Price, Shields, Verlander. Except Verlander, it seems like they’ve all come to regret it.
I think Cueto and Price in 2014 will be the lasts.
― Van Horn Street, Friday, 27 September 2019 06:07 (four years ago) link
Royalty. Loyalty. 👑 pic.twitter.com/gF39tVU5Bz— Seattle Mariners (@Mariners) September 27, 2019
― Andy K, Friday, 27 September 2019 11:54 (four years ago) link
the bulb in my living room lamp went out. i was going to replace it, but it has a dimmer switch and it looks like i don’t have any dimmer bulbs. i’ve tried screwing in a standard bulb but it popped after just a couple days. i figure i’ll hold off until i can go buy the right bulb— Jon Bois (@jon_bois) July 3, 2020
Check out the replies.
― JoeStork, Friday, 3 July 2020 14:46 (three years ago) link
:D
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 3 July 2020 19:20 (three years ago) link
He’s got a strong dog gamehttps://i.postimg.cc/Jz7LHxDR/IMG-2906.jpg
― TY FRANCE HATES TEXAS CONFIRMED (gyac), Thursday, 25 May 2023 22:49 (eleven months ago) link