Wolfgang Voigt's GAS Project: the Poll

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lol

am0n, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 20:12 (sixteen years ago) link

wow

Mark Clemente, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 20:20 (sixteen years ago) link

you'd think they would do the the favor of shipping it.

Mark Clemente, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 20:21 (sixteen years ago) link

i'd be interested in hearing why voigt decided to discontinue the gas project

Well, he did four full-length albums of Gas material and since the sound evolves only slightly after the second one, I imagine he just got bored and wanted to do something else. Considering how many pseudonyms and different projects he's done, I'm thankful the Gas one was the most prolifice.

That said, check out the MassStab and Studio 1 series because those are pretty great as well. Similarly minimal, but with dense patterns of samples instead of washes of sound.

Bill in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 23:59 (sixteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

ILX System, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 00:01 (sixteen years ago) link

wow my gas bill joke just gets more and more prescient in hindsight. WOW

s1ocki, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 00:01 (sixteen years ago) link

i'm surprised there weren't more votes for zauberberg

Mark Clemente, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 02:35 (sixteen years ago) link

The first two tracks of Zauberberg back-to-back kill me. Highs not quite as high as Königsforst though. Pop is amazing but definitely its own thing. Also search All singles.

Mark Rich@rdson, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 02:37 (sixteen years ago) link

So is there anywhere one can buy Oktember at a reasonable price? It's not on the Kompakt site. And is Modern 12" only?

toby, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 12:43 (sixteen years ago) link

Mark- It's the third track on Zauberberg that really gets me. This album somehow manages to both creep me out and pacify me at the same time.

Also, the only way to suitably describe the last track is heavenly.

lou, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 13:00 (sixteen years ago) link

yea zauberberg is really bizarre, isn't it? you have the first and last tracks which are completely gorgeous - yea, heavenly, the third track (which is one of my favorite Gas tracks) which kind of envelopes you in this really calm way, but all the other tracks are downright creepy.

Mark Clemente, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 14:29 (sixteen years ago) link

the last track on konigsforst always makes me think of a sunrise because it sounds like a warped/looped "william tell overture", that waking-up music they use in cartoons

am0n, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 15:37 (sixteen years ago) link

i wonder if any classical heads can trainspot what pieces he samples

am0n, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 15:42 (sixteen years ago) link

I actually thought about e-mailing Alex Ross about Gas. He's probably pretty busy though.

Mark Rich@rdson, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 15:57 (sixteen years ago) link

you should do it!

Mark Clemente, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 15:58 (sixteen years ago) link

Pop was the only one I could ever find on CD. it was the first one I heard, and though I liked the earlier albums after going back and hunting them down on p2p, I did find them to be a bit darker and more eerie than Pop. I don't think I ever really digested the earlier albums like I did Pop for that reason, so Pop got my vote. If they ever did re-release these, I'd swoop them up in a heartbeat.

rockapads, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 18:33 (sixteen years ago) link

toby: arent you in america now? honestly your best bet for getting gas stuff cheap is just to scour used bins whenever you get the chance. there's a lot of mille plateaux stuff lying around. these things were pressed in massive quantities. however, ebay/discogs/amazon holds no hope of reasonable prices...

resolved, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 21:09 (sixteen years ago) link

i actually sold all of my gas CDs and am replacing them slowly w the vinyl because i'm a nerd

resolved, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 21:10 (sixteen years ago) link

i look everywhere for gas everytime i enter a used record store to no avail. all i have is the koenigforst lp (which i got for a steal at $15 sealed a couple of years ago) and moderne.

mille plateaux comps are super plentiful but most single artist albums are about as hard to find as stuff on rather interesting these days.

am0n: that track always makes me think of the wizard of oz.. the twister... dorothy falling asleep etc..

both of those last two tracks make me think of tornadoes and hurricanes for some reason... i think the second to last is my favorite... those horns breaking through the clouds of strings....

winston, Thursday, 17 January 2008 03:13 (sixteen years ago) link

resolved where do you live?

winston, Thursday, 17 January 2008 03:15 (sixteen years ago) link

if anyone goes out and buys all of these i'd hate to see their GAS BILL!!!! HAHAHAHAHHA

some dude listed the 4 full lengths on eBay for $300 a few weeks ago. dunno if they sold or not.

p.s. how did i miss this thread? i would've voted for POP.

stephen, Friday, 18 January 2008 20:24 (sixteen years ago) link

oooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhh

winston, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 02:49 (sixteen years ago) link

[nerd alert] i've fantasized about something like this for some time.. i wanted to design a multiple lp box set w/all the albums, lps, comp tracks, + remixes...

but how the hell do you fit those albums on 2 lps????

winston, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 02:51 (sixteen years ago) link

ps get me to write the liner notes, wolfie

winston, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 02:51 (sixteen years ago) link

so so so so happy

reissuing these is really the best thing to happen to music since... i dunno "ignition (remix)" or something. fucking rejoice!!

winston, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 02:53 (sixteen years ago) link

WOW! This is a wish come true and then some. What perfect timing...

lou, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 03:04 (sixteen years ago) link

YES!!!!!!! this is so perfect. i timed this thread pretty well, huh?

but how the hell do you fit those albums on 2 lps????

yes i'm wondering that now, too. hmmm, something different has to be going on with the 2 lps. maybe you get the regular 4 albums plus the various non-album tracks?

in any case, this is very, very exciting. i was wondering if voigt was ever going to do this.

Mark Clemente, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 14:37 (sixteen years ago) link

maybe you get the regular 4 albums plus the various non-album tracks?

meaning the 4 albums are the 4 cds (obv.) and the non-album stuff goes on the lps? i don't know.

Mark Clemente, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 14:37 (sixteen years ago) link

awesome. will the cds be available separate from the box as well?

am0n, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 15:44 (sixteen years ago) link

it's probably the first box set i've ever been excited about.

nerve_pylon, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 16:02 (sixteen years ago) link

two months pass...

"ranger"!

rockapads, Friday, 18 April 2008 00:02 (fifteen years ago) link

the box is gonna be beautiful

jergïns, Friday, 18 April 2008 00:07 (fifteen years ago) link

still don't get the hype for this stuff

El Tomboto, Friday, 18 April 2008 04:18 (fifteen years ago) link

where can i preorder

moonship journey to baja, Friday, 18 April 2008 04:42 (fifteen years ago) link

yea i'm seriously gonna jump on this box set

Mark Clemente, Friday, 18 April 2008 13:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Never heard but I could maybe buy

sonderangerbot, Friday, 18 April 2008 15:04 (fifteen years ago) link

What the hell is going on with The Wire? I suppose at least Rob Young penned this piece, so Philip Sherburne doesn't have the monopoly on minimalicious cover stories....

Goethe*s Elective Affinities, Friday, 18 April 2008 19:26 (fifteen years ago) link

Philip got to do The Jukebox with Carl Craig :)

willem, Friday, 18 April 2008 21:56 (fifteen years ago) link

i can't find anything anywhere about the box or the raster-norton book thing. what is going on

winston, Saturday, 19 April 2008 00:40 (fifteen years ago) link

isn't hype only applicable to new stuff?

winston, Saturday, 19 April 2008 00:42 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, had i done the voigt piece i probably would have lost all credibility. too many people think i'm a shameless minimal booster as it is!

pshrbrn, Saturday, 19 April 2008 02:49 (fifteen years ago) link

anybody found a place to pre-order this yet?

Professor Respect, Saturday, 26 April 2008 15:00 (fifteen years ago) link

i did it via email w/ a trusted local record store

moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 26 April 2008 17:56 (fifteen years ago) link

Here's some more info about the box set:

GAS: Nah Und Fern 2LP (KOM 175LP). Double LP version.
GAS: Nah Und Fern 4CD (KOMP 066CD). RELEASE DATE: 06/10/2008
"The Kompakt label presents the work of Wolfgang Voigt's Gas - a remastered deluxe package that includes all four of his Mille Plateaux albums: Gas (1996), Zauberberg (1997), Königsforst (1998) and Pop (2000). Wolfgang Voigt, in the past known under a great many pseudonyms such as Mike Ink, Studio 1 or Grungerman, is the driving force behind the rise of Cologne minimal techno and also Kompakt's co-founder and co-owner. In the 1980s, Voigt began working under a concept he named BLEI - extracting elements from classical, polka, brass music, electronic pop and German schlager sounds to form a distinguished and unique pop music style that would fit in with the subculture at that time. In the early 1990s, influenced by techno, Voigt began to experiment with a timbal marching through strongly alienated, free-floating string loops. These elegiac tracks, their lack of beginning and end, their intoxicating, smooth and partly amorphous structure sounded to him like evaporating gas and thus - Gas was born. Gas is the vision of a sonic body between Schönberg and Kraftwerk, between French horn and bass drum. Gas is Wagner goes glam rock, and Hansel and Gretel on acid. Gas takes you on a seemingly endless march through the woods into the discotheque. Reducing the material to its basic aesthetic structure by using different zoom, loop and alienation techniques, he releases it from its original meaning and context, creating a kind of aesthetic essence, a cave to get lost inside. There are one or two new tracks and versions, but both Voigt and Jörg Burger decided to keep remastering light, maintaining Gas' purity and authenticity. This 4CD box comes in a special and stylish collector's format, including 4 small artwork prints. The double vinyl comes in a fold cover with a bonus artwork print and is strictly limited. The vinyl features one extended-edit track from each of the albums per side."

lou, Monday, 28 April 2008 12:35 (fifteen years ago) link

how much will this be? i wonder if the cds will be made available individually from the box

am0n, Monday, 28 April 2008 14:36 (fifteen years ago) link

ah, thanks for the info. now I understand what the 2LP is, I think I'll probably pass on that.

sleeve, Monday, 28 April 2008 20:55 (fifteen years ago) link

I have all the albums and I like the idea of extended cuts, so I'm definitely going to get the vinyl.

Any news on the book that Raster-Noton announced? That seems most interesting to me.

Bill in Chicago, Monday, 28 April 2008 21:16 (fifteen years ago) link

but we need to get 20 people in a room and play it out 5 different sets of speakers, 5 different platforms (spotify, CD, LP), 25 tests in all, and figure out what the heck is going on because this is crazy

my hands are always in my pockets or gesturing. (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 14 December 2021 22:40 (two years ago) link

i need to figure out if there's a way to listen to this that doesn't like shit, other than through the speakers of my iphone6 SE while playing spotify

my hands are always in my pockets or gesturing. (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 14 December 2021 22:40 (two years ago) link

god, when i was a child, i remember when i only had 2 or 3 big problems. i could count them on my hand, and i would think about what i would do about them. and all the problems were so inconsequential. and now look at my life

my hands are always in my pockets or gesturing. (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 14 December 2021 22:41 (two years ago) link

really it sounds awful now to me. listening via decent headphones on a laptop via spotify and it sounds like garbage

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Tuesday, 14 December 2021 22:42 (two years ago) link

the tone is gone on spotify afaict, but i think the crackle was always there, i assumed it was intentional. a lot of gas stuff has chaotic treble messin with your reverie

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Tuesday, 14 December 2021 23:17 (two years ago) link

cool kids these days take their album and record it onto VHS tapes before throwing it up on bandcamp or pressing vinyl masters

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Tuesday, 14 December 2021 23:56 (two years ago) link

lol none is this makes me want to actually listen to the album, esp since there's no preview option on Bandcamp

chaos goblin line cook (sleeve), Wednesday, 15 December 2021 04:06 (two years ago) link

they should add a preview of only the beep

my hands are always in my pockets or gesturing. (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 15 December 2021 04:07 (two years ago) link

Again, I hear no beep on the CD but that might be me.

A Pile of Ants (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 15 December 2021 16:16 (two years ago) link

What a palaver this is.

Heard the tones clear as day last week on Spotify (SoundMagic e11 earbuds plugged into MacBook)
That evening I couldn't pick them out on the stereo (Marantz MCR610 into Q-Acoustics 2020s), same source
Today it's Sennheiser HD558s, Focusrite Scarlett 2i2, USB from work laptop - definitely gone from Spotify, but clear in that YouTube clip upthread (which hasn't been updated since Dec 3)

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 15 December 2021 16:44 (two years ago) link

i'm sure whenever anyone asks wolfgang voigt about it he just grimly stares at his mixer until the person goes away

my hands are always in my pockets or gesturing. (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 15 December 2021 17:02 (two years ago) link

The streaming version now also lacks the horrible track breaks

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Thursday, 16 December 2021 02:35 (two years ago) link

I sent an email to Kompakt’s Bandcamp, and this is the official word re: downloads:

1) Are the files 16 or 24 bit?

It will be 16 Bit

2) Are these the files with or without the high-frequency ping on every other kick?

files come without the high-frequency ping - the record unfortunately still contains the "problem".

3) Are the individual tracks faded out or blending seamlessly into each other?

You will receive the fade out version and the continuous file.

best regards kompakt

So that’s it: files have been depinged, but individual tracks are still fading, which I guess makes them good for shuffle. If you want a continuous experience, you always have the single mixed file, which, I guess, makes sense.

Forgot to ask if those few tracks off Rausch will/have also been depinged.

Xgau Murder Spa (nikola), Friday, 17 December 2021 15:40 (two years ago) link

the "problem"

hahaa

do you think anyone has dared ask voigt out loud if he did that on purpose or not?

Karl Malone, Friday, 17 December 2021 17:12 (two years ago) link

honestly, unless i were mastering or something (this is a fantasy world, ok), i don't think i would have the guts to ask

Karl Malone, Friday, 17 December 2021 17:13 (two years ago) link


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