PIXIES Poll: The best track on Doolittle

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kinda weird that my two favorite tracks are the first and the last. i went with debaser.

circa1916, Saturday, 4 August 2007 08:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Veeeeeeeeeeerrrry difficult. The only one I don't like (which everyone else seems to) is Monkey Gone To Heaven. When this first came out I think my favourite was Debaser. I really like Dead and No.13 Baby, but I'm going to go for Hey.

Nasty, Brutish & Short, Saturday, 4 August 2007 09:04 (sixteen years ago) link

NUMBAH 13

marmotwolof, Saturday, 4 August 2007 09:05 (sixteen years ago) link

Mr. Grieves is hard to beat.

Bimble, Saturday, 4 August 2007 09:23 (sixteen years ago) link

It is "Hey."

Davey D, Saturday, 4 August 2007 09:41 (sixteen years ago) link

HCYM because it's longer than any of the others i love

mitya, Saturday, 4 August 2007 10:37 (sixteen years ago) link

Hey, Tame, Debaser: Argh can't decide!!!

MC, Saturday, 4 August 2007 11:31 (sixteen years ago) link

surfer rosa poll i would know my answer in a second

Surmounter, Saturday, 4 August 2007 12:20 (sixteen years ago) link

And that would be?

MC, Saturday, 4 August 2007 12:25 (sixteen years ago) link

River Euphrates.

Surmounter, Saturday, 4 August 2007 12:47 (sixteen years ago) link

I prefer the single version of that :P

I'd have to go with No. 13 Baby or Gouge Away, I suppose.

Colonel Poo, Saturday, 4 August 2007 14:19 (sixteen years ago) link

I picked "Hey", though "Gouge Away" could belong on that Great Album Closers thread.

I agree with "Silver" being an awful Kim Deal song. And I used to have a framed picture of her hanging in my office.

My smartass answer to this poll would be "A Good Idea" by Sugar.

Pleasant Plains, Saturday, 4 August 2007 18:07 (sixteen years ago) link

Tame is pretty fucking great, too.

marmotwolof, Saturday, 4 August 2007 18:17 (sixteen years ago) link

"Silver" – 2:25

No way, it feels about 6 min long. Zzzzzzzzz....

marmotwolof, Saturday, 4 August 2007 19:34 (sixteen years ago) link

You are all fucking nuts.

HI DERE, Saturday, 4 August 2007 19:43 (sixteen years ago) link

I like the one that gets quiet ... but then it gets really loud.

Romeo Jones, Saturday, 4 August 2007 19:44 (sixteen years ago) link

No wait, the one that sounds like Nirvana ... that's the one, man!

Romeo Jones, Saturday, 4 August 2007 19:45 (sixteen years ago) link

Silver's ok by itself. I just find it about a metric ton less exciting than any of the Black Francis songs. Or Gigantic. Or anything on Pod. Or Safari. Or Last Splash. Or Pacer. I haven't heard Title t/k.

marmotwolof, Saturday, 4 August 2007 20:05 (sixteen years ago) link

u should

Surmounter, Saturday, 4 August 2007 22:14 (sixteen years ago) link

it's funny, I have never run across it in a store since right after it first came out. suppose I should send for it.

marmotwolof, Saturday, 4 August 2007 22:29 (sixteen years ago) link

Doolittle's first side is SO much better than the second. Once La La has played, I shut it off.

libcrypt, Saturday, 4 August 2007 22:49 (sixteen years ago) link

Have you ever heard "Hey" and "Gouge Away"?

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 4 August 2007 22:50 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, I should give Gouge another chance. But Hey, yawn.

libcrypt, Saturday, 4 August 2007 22:52 (sixteen years ago) link

I think Silver is great, Dan.

Melissa W, Saturday, 4 August 2007 22:55 (sixteen years ago) link

aren't you really into radiohead or something

marmotwolof, Sunday, 5 August 2007 00:57 (sixteen years ago) link

And?

Melissa W, Sunday, 5 August 2007 01:02 (sixteen years ago) link

and Dan hates Metal Box

marmotwolof, Sunday, 5 August 2007 01:05 (sixteen years ago) link

...OK?

Melissa W, Sunday, 5 August 2007 01:06 (sixteen years ago) link

and you both like Silver

marmotwolof, Sunday, 5 August 2007 01:08 (sixteen years ago) link

uh huh

Melissa W, Sunday, 5 August 2007 01:09 (sixteen years ago) link

intersting.

marmotwolof, Sunday, 5 August 2007 01:13 (sixteen years ago) link

indeed

Melissa W, Sunday, 5 August 2007 01:24 (sixteen years ago) link

"Mr. Grieves" because it's like an epic in two minutes.

o. nate, Sunday, 5 August 2007 01:41 (sixteen years ago) link

gouge away or hey

in truth, i find a little over half of these tracks a little underwhelming these days.

Charlie Howard, Sunday, 5 August 2007 05:41 (sixteen years ago) link

Do have anoth-a-pinion?

christoff, Monday, 6 August 2007 20:26 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.imagingallthepeople.co.uk/prints/monkey_gone_to_heaven.jpg

bnw, Monday, 6 August 2007 20:31 (sixteen years ago) link

Wow, this is truly one of the hardest decisions I've ever faced, it's like a 10 way tie for me. . .

I'll vote for There Goes My Gun, because of my not being able to get that melody out of my head on that fateful grade 8 field trip to Montreal when I bought Doolittle.

mehlt, Monday, 6 August 2007 20:39 (sixteen years ago) link

Wow. Looks like you guys are forcing me to vote for I Bleed.

Jack Burton, Monday, 6 August 2007 21:38 (sixteen years ago) link

i thought I'd be the only one to vote for Gouge Away, glad to see all the love.

I like Hey too. which sounds like the Stones to me

akm, Monday, 6 August 2007 21:42 (sixteen years ago) link

I Bleed

Turangalila, Monday, 6 August 2007 21:59 (sixteen years ago) link

"Here Comes Your Man" = great pop song
"Hey" = AWESOME
"Debaser" = my pick

Tape Store, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 02:05 (sixteen years ago) link

For sentimental romantic reasons I'm going to vote for "Hey!", although I've a demo/Peel version of it that is a lot better than the one on the album. Has a little more emotion in it somehow.

Trayce, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 02:34 (sixteen years ago) link

It was pretty much a 4 or 5 way tie, so I just voted for "Hey". I'm sure I'll change my mind in an hour. It's not perfect, but I still love this record.

j-rock, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 02:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Hey. and then Gauge Away.

Drooone, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 03:00 (sixteen years ago) link

monkey, because it's the only one of these songs that resonates with me at all anymore

electricsound, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 03:03 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah its weird, I loved the Pixies completely, but I just don't listen to them anymore, they're of a time that's faded I think.

Trayce, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 03:11 (sixteen years ago) link

way-hey-hey-hey-heyve . . .

The Wayward Johnny B, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 11:54 (sixteen years ago) link

i never really think about this band, but looking at this poll, i realise ive a lot of time for wave of mutilation, gouge away, here comes your man, not sure which i'd pick

Filey Camp, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 12:05 (sixteen years ago) link

Suprisingly I think "Hey!" is going to win this based on responses thus far. Interesting.

Trayce, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 12:45 (sixteen years ago) link

I just remembered a sweet thing. I had just been to JB HiFi (Aus chain CD store) and was outside it waiting for a tram. These 2 teenaged indie boys came out, with a bag of cds. One of them pulled out "Surfer Rosa" and showed it to his mate and said "this is an awesome album I've heard". This made me happy. His friend took the CD, looked at it and went "hmm.. hey awesome, she has her tits out on the cover".

Trayce, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 12:47 (sixteen years ago) link

lol @ going back through the thread after posting and seeing that I voted for "Dead", who's vmic now

shout-out to his family (DJP), Friday, 26 June 2020 14:33 (three years ago) link

yeah I think the only songs I'm not that keen on are La La Love You and There Goes My Gun. and Here Comes Your Man to an extent tbh

chipstick rebellion (Colonel Poo), Friday, 26 June 2020 14:41 (three years ago) link

Deal and Black Francis share writing credits on "Silver" and "Gigantic," so I've always wondered who did what. Re: "Gigantic" specifically, there's a quote from Francis on the wiki:

"A good chord progression, very Lou Reed influenced. I'd had the word 'gigantic' in my mind just because the chord progression seemed very big to me."
That implies Francis provided at least some of the lyrics. In fact, I found this other thing:
Aware that Kim Deal was seeking more creative input, Frank Black set her a challenge using a circular chord sequence he'd developed. "We started doing a bit of their loud quiet loud dynamic, where we would bring things down to bass and drums, the kind of thing you'd hear on a Sisters of Mercy song," he recalled to Uncut. "I wanted to do a song that didn't change chords, like Lou Reed's Sweet Jane. So I just said to Kim, let's do a song called 'Gigantic,' this is the bass riff, quiet in the verses loud in the choruses."
So if that is at all accurate, Francis provided the chords, iconic bass line, and title, and ... Kim the rest of the words? "Silver" (which I love) is more of a duet.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 June 2020 14:52 (three years ago) link

Hey, Silver and Gouge Away is a trio for the ages

Mule, Friday, 26 June 2020 15:00 (three years ago) link

from RapGenius.net:

Black Francis told Esquire that “Silver” is,

the only composition that I did with Kim on this session. I think we worked on it a couple of times the previous year or something. I don’t know what it means to her and I don’t know what it means to me. The lyrics are all very vague and vaguely folk-sounding. You can almost hear it’s like a faux-folk song. It’s definitely an abstraction. At least that’s my interpretation of it. It was all about creating a mood I think.

This is a song me and Kim wrote really fast one night sitting around bored in the studio waiting for whatever to happen with the engineers. There were other lyrics that were supposed to have been written for the actual song but all we’d got left were the original phrases that we came up with so that was that.

(Black Francis in the NME, April 1989)

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 26 June 2020 15:44 (three years ago) link

So it's a full music and lyrics collaboration?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 June 2020 15:54 (three years ago) link

That's surprising because "Silver" was also on the Pod Demos. I had always assumed (for some odd reason) that Charles's input regarded elements that were specific to the Doolittle version

weekly shopper helper (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 27 June 2020 03:43 (three years ago) link

Kim wrote the lyrics to Gigantic and it was based on the play/movie, Crimes of the Heart. My memory is fuzzy on this, but a married white woman in the south has an affair with a young black man and in the song the narrator sees them meet up.

Fuck it, let me look it up:

Kim Deal’s ex-husband John Murphy sheds some light on this song’s origin in the 2004 oral history Fool the World:

"Charles came up with the riff, but he wasn’t really sure what the lyrics were going to be, so he goes, “Eh, well, Kim, why don’t you take a shot at it? The only thing I know is that I want to call it ‘Gigantic’,” and she says, “Fine.” So she comes home with it and she’s playing it on the guitar and I said, “Gigantic, okay, maybe it’s about a big mall.” She goes, “Okay, let’s try that for a while,” and I’m like, “The mall, the mall, let’s have a ball.” So I wrote that. It changed to “Hey, Paul”, because it had to rhyme. And then, a couple of days later she had fixated on this Sissy Spacek movie Crimes of the Heart about this farmworker, I think he’s a black guy, and Sissy Spacek and this farmworker get together – so that’s what it’s about. An illicit love affair."

So there are some things to unpack here. His "teeth are white as snow." I assume in contrast to his skin color. And the word "gigantic" in the context of the song?

Cow_Art, Saturday, 27 June 2020 04:41 (three years ago) link

I tried reading the "Doolittle" 33 1/3 and ... couldn't. Boring subjects, writer not quite up to making something interesting out of them. Which is part of the band's appeal, in a weird way.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 27 June 2020 22:00 (three years ago) link

So there are some things to unpack here. His "teeth are white as snow." I assume in contrast to his skin color. And the word "gigantic" in the context of the song?

Yeah, after I learned the setting for the song, I no longer loved it in the way I once did (which I really did, because there are almost no songs that include the name Paul).

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 27 June 2020 23:10 (three years ago) link

Palace Brothers - O Paul

epistantophus, Saturday, 4 July 2020 23:32 (three years ago) link

Gigantic is cancelled

PaulTMA, Sunday, 5 July 2020 01:03 (three years ago) link

xxp Big Thief - Paul

Pat McGroin (morrisp), Sunday, 5 July 2020 01:08 (three years ago) link

a big big pud

shout-out to his family (DJP), Sunday, 5 July 2020 01:51 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

uriah hit the crapper
the crapper

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, 5 January 2022 22:31 (two years ago) link


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