Roy Montgomery: Classic or Dud etc etc

Rebis is a label out of Chicago run by the band Number None, I think.
Been listening to Temple IV a lot. His side of the Harmony of the Spheres, "Fantasia on a theme by Sandy Bull," is a personal favorite, too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvvWccgN3Zs

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SHREDS is not even the word 4 it

Yup.

Oh yes.

does anyone here like Hash Jar Tempo?

Love 'em.

It's been quite a while since I gave "Well-Oiled" a spin, actually.

does anyone here like Hash Jar Tempo?

Yup, I pulled out Under the Glass earlier this week, actually -- great stuff.

cool i want to check them out...when looking through the Flying Nun discography a few months back, it never occured to me once that the Pin Group might be as relevant as The Clean lol...

There's another new Roy Montgomery track "Pressed Bloom" coming on the CD release of his Grouper split next year: http://sites.google.com/site/yellowelectric/Grouper

HJT is great! Not as great as Dadamah though, imo!

Hi,

Just stumbled on this. I appreciate the comments that have kept the thread going (thanks Ned), albeit fitfully just like my output. Yes I found the "Roy Division" quip funny myself at the time not least when I arrived at work one day (record shop) to find it sprayed in day-glo on the big glass window. Expect a modest crank or two of the handle of output over the next year or so.

Incidentally, was listening to the collab w/ Kirk Lake, "London Is Swinging By His Neck". So, so haunting & beautiful!

xpost -- Hey, you're welcome there sir, glad you could stop by. Looking forward to whatever comes next!

awesome!!

Can I be the only one here that rates And Now the Rain...? After the Pin Group, it was the first solo Roy I fell for, so that may have something to do with my everlasting love of this one.

Thanks for the tip, Sal, I'm listening now and "London Is Swinging By His Neck" is indeed really cool!

Meantime, a clip from last year:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtzPZ8RBz58

Some Pin Group film footage just up on Youtube. Filmed on 16mm by Ronnie Van Hout it shows us running through Ambivalence and Coat in practice room and gives a reasonably good idea of our dynamic and entertaining stage show. The first two and a half minutes feature a Christchurch poet called Desmond Brice who penned some of the Pin Group's lyrics including the above. Film closes with some flip remarks about Pin Group from local painter Marty Whitworth. Gives you some sense of how droll it was to live in ths city in the early 1980s.

Glad to hear the handle is cranking a bit. I've been wondering what you've been up to the last 5 years or so.

Incidental moment of fandom: Seeing Roy do his thing at the Cooler sometime 'round '94/5 and getting back to my Berkshire home in the middle of the night, stealing my roommate's guitar and having a go at it for the first time. Not nearly as good, but quite thrilling.

New album new album new album...

debut of a new project featuring guitarist Roy Montgomery and sonic warlock Nick Guy. the geological allusions in the group's name are apt, and the results are at once familiar and surprising, wedding Roy's melodies and riffs with Nick's rumbling bass frequencies, shuddering beats, textural drones, and finely crafted sonics.
released may 2011.

(there's a soundcloud sample at the link)

but may has already passed? is it available somewhere?

not in NZ; they're coming up on Christmas there

looks to be available to order at that link

sounds really good

Aquarius Records has it also (just ordered)

bump to say there's a Pin Group soundboard recording from 1981 up on D1mead0zen right now.

wow, sleeve--thank you!!

low rider!

I heard a rumor of an anthology of Roy's work, anyone know anything? I wonder what'd be on it...

there is a 2-CD rarities/outtakes/singles comp which i lost and now cannot find again.

Hmmm, you mean this one, "Inroads"? http://www.discogs.com/Roy-Montgomery-Inroads-New-And-Collected-Works/release/903736

aha

Rebis Recordings has both the Inroads 2 CD comp and the Torlesse Super Group CD... the Inroads is on sale for $12, too.

woot! Pin Group Retrospective reissued on Flying Nun! vinyl and cd! live tracks!

http://exclaim.ca/News/flying_nun_revisits_first-ever_signing_pin_group

Roy Montgomery sure sounds good in Virginia this time of year, and this song rules so hard. Need to own a copy of this record:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z49s1Sv1Bo0&feature=related

GREAT new interview just posted.

http://www.secretdecoder.net/features/2013/05/08/i-would-not-describe-myself-as-a-musician-an-interview-with-roy-montgomery/

Thanks doesnt cover it, Ned

"ill at home" is the scariest song i have ever heard, and i have heard some scary songs

also <3 this guy on the bummers of teaching Administration, the trend toward corporatization, and the traumas of failing students are the lows.

the second Dissolve album, Third Album from the Sun has been sounding really good to me lately

REQUEST:

recordings that either are or sound like Roy Montgomery (partic his solo stuff), but also have human/s playing drums and or a live percussion element.

Some of the moodier/darker Durutti Column stuff, like the songs on Another Setting?

Note - I have heard Hash Jar Tempo but those albums were improvisations, right? They are more out there/noodly than what I'm looking for. (I like them but that's not the sound I'm after)

maybe?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1rF3-gk21U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0OjY3UXiLk

have not heard that durutti column, will look into

i listened to most of the first lanterna song and i liked it ok but the song itself is more traditionally rock with the key changes and whatnot -- i think what i'm looking for is a more...textural sound? i don't know how to describe it, pls bear with me.

the second lanterna song is so worth waiting SIX MINUTES for the drums to start -- the best part about it is that it never turns into one of the big bombastic songs like it totally could. love this song!
i guess i can look it up but if there is anything essential i need to know about them (they are 12, this album is from 1966, whatever) tell me!

i was a big fan of their first lp, way back in '95. they are def. more 'traditional' than RoyMont. the main guy Henry Frayne was also in The Moon Seven Times, and Area before that (both kinda proto-Cocteau Twins-ish?). i think maybe the Lanterna lps get more 'ambient'? i don't know, though--i just went to the Youtubes and found the two closest to Roy Mont. and warning, there were a few that veered more into mannered bombast. There's also Scenic, Bruce Licher's post-Savage Republic outfit, big on the cinematic desert landscapes. and i assume you already know about early Felt?

there's also Land Observations:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPF7BwtpXZ8

no drums, though--but also no bombast :)

v good info, thank you. also i assume you already know about early Felt? YES, I have been known to listen to early Felt over and over and over and over.

one of my favorites https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGHQ2s4NQcE

i guess i want hypnotizing vs emotionally bombastic

why didn't that show up? anyway it was the optimist and the poet.

New album "That Best Forgotten Work" is a vocal album! I love his doomy voice, has Roy sung much on his solo albums? The ones I've checked out have been exclusively instrumental.

On and off. Love the singing. Always

"Suffuse" had female guest vocalists singing vocal parts he'd written

buy his singles comp 324 E. 13th Street #7, it has plenty of songs with vocals!

Don't forget the Dadamah and Dissolve albums!

The singles comp as mentioned with the swallows single and Something Else Again? One of my favorites.

I wrote this: https://www.theguardian.com/music/2022/nov/29/cult-guitarist-roy-montgomery-on-flying-nun-grief-and-embracing-mistakes-its-an-existential-thing. Camera Melancholia is magnificent.

Truly.

oh! this must be live on Spotify soon so I can listen at work... got the vinyl in the mail a few days ago

(also great article!)

Thank you!

Lovely article/interview - I'm a NZer and I'd never heard some of those biographical details before. Glad he's got the Dry Cleaning support slot here - hoping that + the new Matthew Goody Flying Nun book will give him a bit more local attention.

Nice interview, thanks for sharing. I picked up RMHQ earlier this year and greatly enjoyed it. Spun all four discs on repeat on a day trip through a national park in the Pacific Northwest.

The one song with vocals is truly the most beautiful thing I've heard in ages. Doesn't sound like it but makes me think of Nick Cave's Distant Sky, another heartbreakingly melancholic elegy featuring guest female vocals.

saw him play in the Futana Chapel today

i'm from the same place he is and i was a fan of his instrumental 90s stuff years ago but haven't really been able to get into the what i've heard since he's started releasing again. the was pretty nice, particularly the opening omnichord piece. might have to check the new one out. he also mentioned that he's putting a book of verse next year and read some of it out which was pretty hard to watch/listen to but suprisingly good and pretty poignant.

revisting this album tonight for the first time in a long time. probably my favourite vocal track of his (along the Wire cover)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHjMRi7lu9s