Frippertronics-era Robert Fripp: Let's Discuss

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As I'd mentioned earlier, from Eric Tamm's book on Fripp:

"The end of the Drive to 1981 was timed to coincide with an event of astrological significance, an alignment of the planets to take place on September 11, 1981, at which time, Fripp evidently believed, mankind was in for an awakening of apocalyptic import."

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 18:01 (nineteen years ago) link

eight months pass...
I would like to reiterate how weird the above happenstance is. Has he said anything about it since 9/11?

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Sunday, 17 April 2005 15:33 (eighteen years ago) link

seven months pass...
Robert Fripp has a new Soundscape CD out, and it is entitled Love Cannot Bear.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 23:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Fripp knew

walter kranz (walterkranz), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 23:22 (eighteen years ago) link

I mentioned it on one of the King Crimson threads, but DGM Live has gone live after at least a year of hinting by Fripp that it was coming. They're offering whole shows for download (128k MP3 and FLAC) — among the first batch to go up is the Nov 2000 World Financial Center soundscapes. Frippertronics is big on everyone's wishlist at the site's guestbook.

I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 03:10 (eighteen years ago) link

Frippertronics is big on everyone's wishlist at the site's guestbook.

How do you mean?

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 03:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Like, people want him to post the Kitchen Tapes?

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 03:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Like, several people (not "everybody," I was being hyperbolic) have requested Frippertronics, and Sid Smith (who wrote the KC bio a few years ago and is now on the DGM payroll) has noted the requests:

Clearly there's been a demand for Frippertronics and it's our intention to make some of these available as the site grows and develops. More Soundscapes will be uploaded onto the site in the near future and the KC 2003 shows are also currently under consideration.

I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 03:23 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Jan. 11 RF diary entry:

Just spoken to Steve Martin of The Agency in NYC. Soundscape performances are about to be confirmed for the end of February in Athens, Atlanta, Chattanooga, Nashville, Memphis, St. Louis & a few others.

truck-patch pixel farmer (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 14 January 2006 02:52 (eighteen years ago) link

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Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Saturday, 14 January 2006 02:58 (eighteen years ago) link

six years pass...

rad little bit of frippertronics: http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/matte-kudasai-solo/id129950531?i=109855476
the Matte Kudasai Solo isolated.

tylerw, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 22:09 (twelve years ago) link

Found an original copy of the Pleasures In Pieces bootleg a while back, which Tamm raves about in his book. Rightly so, it's a gem.

ban this sick stunt (anagram), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 22:27 (twelve years ago) link

that's this thing right? http://www.dgmlive.com/archive.htm?&show=1172
i need to keep up with the DGM Live thing, had no idea they had put out that 1975 eno/fripp show officially.

tylerw, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 22:34 (twelve years ago) link

I thought Pleasure In Pieces was at the Kitchen in SoHo.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 22:39 (twelve years ago) link

oh maybe? i haven't heard it.

tylerw, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 22:52 (twelve years ago) link

Neither have I. Would love to tho. Seems kind of odd DGM hasn't released it.

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 26 January 2012 01:01 (twelve years ago) link

yeah it's the Kitchen, Feb 1978

ban this sick stunt (anagram), Thursday, 26 January 2012 10:04 (twelve years ago) link

And DGM hasn't released it, right?

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 26 January 2012 12:42 (twelve years ago) link

correct

also you said you downloaded it upthread :)

ban this sick stunt (anagram), Thursday, 26 January 2012 13:36 (twelve years ago) link

So I did! I think I may have lost it in The Great Crash of 2011.

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 26 January 2012 15:25 (twelve years ago) link

i need this bootleg and yet i cannot find it. these are dark days.

tylerw, Thursday, 26 January 2012 16:01 (twelve years ago) link

three months pass...

think "no pussyfooting" played at 33 is the greatest album of all time

so ... what up w/ the album art?

the late great, Saturday, 28 April 2012 21:23 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

happy 66th bday robert fripp!

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Thursday, 16 May 2013 19:22 (ten years ago) link

woo. coincidentally was just listening to this for the first time: http://www.guitars101.com/forums/f90/robert-fripp-1979-08-11-toronto-canada-aud-mp3320-a-121738.html

tylerw, Thursday, 16 May 2013 19:23 (ten years ago) link

His and Toyah's appearance on All Star Mr. and Mrs. from a week or two ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64VGyoIyBgc

What makes a man shart fire? (WilliamC), Friday, 17 May 2013 13:43 (ten years ago) link

did a whole sacred songs/peter gabriel 2/exposure listening marathon last week and it ruled

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 17 May 2013 15:13 (ten years ago) link

His and Toyah's appearance on All Star Mr. and Mrs. from a week or two ago:


That was outstanding. They are, like, the sweet old couple that never fell out of love (largely because she still wears the leather outfits).

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 17 May 2013 15:40 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

Frippertronics emulator - VST plugin

http://synth.me/music-gear/elottronix-xl-free-frippertronics-emulator-vst

WilliamC, Tuesday, 25 June 2013 12:00 (ten years ago) link

bweep-aweepabweep

two years pass...

So, you can get mp3s of Fripp's entire 1979 and 1981 Frippertronics tours at DGM Live for $60 and $45 respectively. Kind of cool.

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 23 May 2016 00:13 (seven years ago) link

Looks like those are the FLAC prices — mp3s are even cheaper, $46 and $35. Tempting...

pleas to Nietzsche (WilliamC), Monday, 23 May 2016 00:57 (seven years ago) link

Ooh yes, that is tempting.

I've been listening to some of Fripp's Soundscapes the last few days – his digital Frippertronics that he deployed solo in the 90s as well as with Sylvian, The Orb and on various other electronica collabs during the decade. At the time I found much of that work a bit bloodless – his original Revox/"Fripple board" setup was so wonderful but more than that, unusual-sounding, the newer setup couldn't help but suffer by comparison. But the further I get from those records, the more I think he was doing some really interesting work during that era – and it made total sense why he was in such demand. Some favorites:

Bringing Down the Light (with David Sylvian)
The Cathedral of Tears
FFWD/Orbert – the Orb collaboration and the 51-minute bootleg tape, recorded and mixed by Kris Weston before Paterson added his prototypical dub echoes, humor and sound effects. Consists mostly of Frippertronics/Soundcapes and keyboard pads.
Terminus (with the Orb)
Can of Bliss (FFWD)

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 23 May 2016 04:23 (seven years ago) link

Still haven't pulled the trigger on the 79/81 Frippertronics tours. But did grab that World Financial Centre show from November, 2000 -- and here is a great Soundscapes performance of Fripp's from a few years back on the radio -- not dissimilar to The Equatorial Stars, with a nice interview as well where he describes the evolution of Frippertronics to Soundscapes:

http://www.wnyc.org/story/105064-robert-fripps-soundscapes-live-2010/

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 23 May 2016 20:32 (seven years ago) link

Soundscapes signal path:

http://cdn.mos.musicradar.com/images/features/rig-tour/robert-fripp/signal-path-650-80.jpg

FIVE Eventide Harmonizers.

I love this stuff. Also: I'm a bit drunk.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 22:36 (seven years ago) link

seven months pass...

WTC show from November 2000 is incredibly good. Now that digital synthesis is getting a second look, you'd be crazy to sleep on these Soundscapes recordings. Some are among the best things Fripp ever did, I shit you not.

Full admission: I'm a bit drunk again.

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 7 January 2017 22:02 (seven years ago) link

So, you can get mp3s of Fripp's entire 1979 and 1981 Frippertronics tours at DGM Live for $60 and $45 respectively. Kind of cool.

Can you link directly to this? I'm not seeing it. Finding the DGM site a little confusing to navigate.

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 9 January 2017 03:45 (seven years ago) link

I can't find it either. I think the site has been rejigged since May and is still something of a work in progress. Suspect it's not available at the moment.

heaven parker (anagram), Monday, 9 January 2017 09:54 (seven years ago) link

Yes, noticed the new redesign the other day. Every link is broken.

I said this elsewhere but Fripp's 2006 Churchscapes tour of English cathedrals is mind blowingly good. $20 for something like 6 shows on DGM when it's back online.

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 10 January 2017 04:54 (seven years ago) link

two years pass...

Robert Fripp's 1978 Frippertronics show at The Kitchen, NYC now available to download...https://t.co/asXGhFOtpC pic.twitter.com/MuOCdWcj9K

— KING CRIMSON (@DGMHQ) December 23, 2019

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 23 December 2019 13:08 (four years ago) link

Not sure about the date but I believe this is the Pleasure in Pieces boot described upthread at the correct speed, running order, etc. Sounds like a similar approach to how they restored the famously bootlegged Fripp & Eno Paris shows from the mid-70s:

05FEB 1978

By the time Robert Fripp arrived at The Kitchen, one of New York’s leading avant-garde arts spaces, King Crimson had been declared dead and buried for nearly three and a half years. Having used the resulting space to spend time in search of personal equilibrium through a spiritual retreat, this public unveiling of Frippertronics presented Fripp as the living embodiment of the ‘small, independent, mobile and intelligent unit.’

Such was the demand to see the dapper-suited Englishman performing in New York, a second show was added on the night with long queues braving the freezing cold weather. The importance of the performance wasn’t lost on bootleggers and for several years a double LP of the first house show had been in circulation.

However, as Frippertronics expert as Al Okada observes this bootleg LP had been released at the wrong speed and with tracks appearing out of sequence. Listening to the work of DGM’s Alex ‘Stormy’ Mundy in restoring both the first and second houses, Okada says, “This new transfer, direct from the master tapes, enhanced with solos from bootlegged cassette recordings, has vastly improved on that sound quality. This is by far and away the ‘definitive version.’”

Al continues, “I am particularly struck by the opening section of 1st House-Loop I, which is very reminiscent of a fanfare. This was highly appropriate for the opening piece of the world premiere of Frippertronics. Loop II opening is also extremely memorable to my ears. There’s some great soloing on top of Loop IV with the end of that piece sounding like cars whizzing past on a highway.”

Okada comments that this show is important for another reason - the lack of any “beeping” type sounds that would be a hallmark of future performances. “Those sounds are created by a signal bypass switch, added to the pedalboard. It’s likely that at the time of this show, Fripp had not discovered this technique. All notes played here are either played directly or are swept in via volume pedal. This is a subtle yet distinct difference, distinguishing itself from all subsequent Frippertronics performances. 2nd House-Loop III at around 10 minutes in, Fripp creates some riveting sounds that can be best described as a fleet of dive-bombing wartime aircraft. These are just a few of the many highlights for me.”

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 23 December 2019 13:55 (four years ago) link

yes....will absolutely pay for this download.

akm, Monday, 23 December 2019 20:35 (four years ago) link

Dang gotta get that

tylerw, Monday, 23 December 2019 20:52 (four years ago) link

yes....will absolutely pay for this download.

So did I, expecting 320 kbps. They're 192 :-/ Flacs cost a little more so choose wisely.. Comes with a download for a cd-cover you can print and cut to fit though!

willem, Monday, 23 December 2019 21:16 (four years ago) link

four months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Te0qfJUidHQ

stirmonster, Saturday, 9 May 2020 18:32 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiJH8TenrrQ

stirmonster, Saturday, 9 May 2020 18:39 (three years ago) link

one more -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81NBo1L2TLY

stirmonster, Saturday, 9 May 2020 18:46 (three years ago) link

jfc

Maresn3st, Saturday, 9 May 2020 19:24 (three years ago) link

Not sure if I've read anywhere about nauseating tweeness being a side-effect of self-isolation?

Frank Bough: I Took Drugs with Vice Girls (Tom D.), Saturday, 9 May 2020 19:38 (three years ago) link

oh cmon these are completely endearing.

akm, Saturday, 9 May 2020 20:23 (three years ago) link

Er, OK?

Frank Bough: I Took Drugs with Vice Girls (Tom D.), Saturday, 9 May 2020 20:53 (three years ago) link

"Ladies of the Road" already provided a hint.

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 19 April 2021 14:20 (two years ago) link

ew

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 14:05 (two years ago) link

Great thread revive.

Authoritarian Steaks (Tom D.), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 14:15 (two years ago) link

Oh! Oh!

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 21 April 2021 00:07 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

firestarter!

StanM, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 07:42 (two years ago) link

(look it up yourself, it's NSFW)

StanM, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 07:59 (two years ago) link

Man oh man, I love Sundays...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWMY7TVzgcE

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Sunday, 23 May 2021 19:24 (two years ago) link

nine months pass...

Fucking hell...

https://www.dgmlive.com/news/robert-fripp-exposures-32-discs-boxed-set-robert-fripp-studio-live-1977-1983

The long-awaited 32-disc boxed set of Robert Fripp in the studio and in concert 1977 - 1983 will be released on 27th May 2022. The set will feature many previously unreleased tracks, outtakes and rarities as well as numbers tracks becoming on CD for the first time.

Everybody Loves Ramen (WmC), Thursday, 3 March 2022 19:28 (two years ago) link

Holy shit, I'm exhausted just trying to read the tracklisting.

Maresn3st, Thursday, 3 March 2022 19:39 (two years ago) link

I haven't gotten any of the monster-size KC boxes, but I'll probably be getting this.

Everybody Loves Ramen (WmC), Thursday, 3 March 2022 20:17 (two years ago) link

Yeah holy fuck, I think this is kind of a mandatory purchase.

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 3 March 2022 20:22 (two years ago) link

dear god

WmC I will happily trade you 32 CDRs of your choice for rips/files if/when you get this

bad milk blood robot (sleeve), Thursday, 3 March 2022 20:24 (two years ago) link

three months pass...

Don't know if this is "the writing project" as mentioned by RF over the years, but https://dgmlive.com/news/the-guitar-circle-book-by-rf

The long-awaited first book from Robert Fripp - 'The Guitar Circle' - collects much of RF's writing about Guitar Craft, as well as his unique approach to guitar playing, collaborating and personal development.

Presented in a limited edition first print hardcover format (and printed on high-end Italian Fedrigoni paper), the book is due to be published on September 1st 2022 by Panegyric Publishing.

This is the first in a series of books to include The DGM Diaries, Crimson Chronicles and membership of King Crimson (1969-2021) and personal commentary on living in New York during and after the recording of Exposure at a point in the late 1970s when New York was the fulcrum of a wider cultural rebirth.

The book will be available via Burning Shed and other major online bookstores from September 1st. Click here to pre-order.
(For U.S. customers, the book will be available to pre-order via Inner Knot soon.)

WmC, Friday, 1 July 2022 19:34 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAmC8VRxC1g

calstars, Friday, 16 September 2022 01:58 (one year ago) link

four months pass...

Success. Frippertronics rig set up in the "traditional" way. In other words, no mixer, no extra delay and one cable between playback and record machines. pic.twitter.com/sQ1HyFUiXe

— tarotplane (@tarotplane_) February 9, 2023

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 10 February 2023 14:32 (one year ago) link


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