John Cale S/D

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I'm surprised how many people have cited Honi Soit. I love that record, even as weak as it is.

I recently watched the Drella video on the big screen again .. still fantastic... and the Cale songs are superior, but maybe that's just me being a little sick of Lour Reed.

I met a guy the other night who said he played the viola. I asked him if he'd heard of John Cale. He said no.

HOW THE FUCK DO YOU PLAY THE VIOLA AND HAVE NOT HEARD OF JOHN CALE???

BECAUSE IT'S A BIG FUCKING WORLD BIMBLE COME ON

All the same, folks in western countries who don't know Velvet Underground need to get with it, pronto. The end of the world is coming soon, there's not much time left. QUICKLY!

NEXT THING THEY'LL BE TELLING YOU THEY DON'T KNOW WHO PALL MACKNARTANEY IS!?!?!

Why is there not a beautiful 4 or 5 CD box set career overview? The _Seducing Down The Door_ 2 disc set is necessarily very stingy. There's so much to his career and lots of great rarities could be included as well!

yeaaaah I wanna hear outakes from Church of Anthrax and more live recordings from both the mid-70s and that beserko 78-79 period.

And if you give me half a chance, I'd do it now, I'd do it NOW, RIGHT NOW, YOU FASCIST!

So great.

DAMN RIGHT MAMA!

I just bought "The Island Years" and I can't believe my ears. I had no idea I'd like this that much. The likes of Coldplay only wish they'd done anything as good as "Ship of Fools".

Just don't understand how this CD could be as good as what I'm hearing.

"Fear Is A Man's Best Friend", too...it's weird cause I think I heard that song before years ago. Just fucking fantastic, man.

yeah, those 3 records are my favorite of his. look for the expanded CD version of "Sabotage" next!

i've been playing "paris 1919" and "fear" all week. god, what a great album. "gun" completely kills. album for album, cale's post-VU work is just much more my scene than lou reed's, and i love "transformer" and "berlin" like, a lot. i'm not sure if i like the album version of "fear is a man's best friend" better than the live one from "fragments of a rainy season."

also, he is a very nice, articulate, handsome man.

yeah, when I got The Island Years I was like "I wasted all these years trying to like those damn Lou Reed albums when I could have been rocking this?!?!"

EB he is great in that BBC Velvet Underground documentary if you ever get a chance to see it. I'd love to see a career-spanning doc on Cale with live footage.

"Child's Christmas in Wales" and "The Endless Plain of Fortune" are perfect Xmas music.

Artificial Intelligence may not be all that, but "Dying on the Vine" is one of his four or five most beautiful songs & lyrically is some of his tightest, most cutting work I think

I'd love to see a career-spanning doc on Cale with live footage.

oh look, one is mentioned upthread! gotta find that...

Some of the greatest music ever made. "Vintage Violence" up thru "Helen of Troy" is a flawless body of work - and it's pretty great after that too.!

yeah, when I got The Island Years I was like "I wasted all these years trying to like those damn Lou Reed albums when I could have been rocking this?!?!"

Oh my god, dude, that is just so OTM I don't even know where to begin. Cheers.

i find myself jealous of those discovering john cale. on christmas, no less.

I just bought "The Island Years" and I can't believe my ears. I had no idea I'd like this that much. The likes of Coldplay only wish they'd done anything as good as "Ship of Fools".

Just don't understand how this CD could be as good as what I'm hearing.
Bimble, Monday, December 24, 2007 5:03 PM

HOW THE FUCK DO YOU PLAY THE VIOLA HANG AROND ILX FOR YEARS AND HAVE NOT HEARD OF JOHN CALE CAN NOT UNDERSTAND HOW GOOD THOSE ISLAND LPS COULD BE???

Well that looks like a typical ILX cheap-shot/smartass post to me, but if you're really looking for a serious answer, I've never been convinced by what I've heard of Cale's music in the past outside of a few songs here and there. A lot of his stuff with Nico scared me off, too even though I'm a pretty big fan of hers.

I'm listening to Music For A New Society now, though and I think I might end up liking it more overall than the Island stuff, actually. I do hope that news doesn't make you have a heart attack or something! ;)

I'm moving on to Sabotage next.

Be cool, just a little joke. Your "HOW THE FUCK..." post did make you sound like a big John Cale fan.

hedda gabler is a monster track

Oh yeah Hedda Gabler is the fucking shit and if anyone can point me to something better than that in his entire career, I'll be quite grateful. But I doubt you could come up with better than that.

nope!

Good to know!

I played Music For A New Society last night in its entirety and was completely and totally blown away. It seemed like every time I thought it couldn't get better, it added some touch here and there (bagpipes at the end of 'I Keep A Close Watch', the quiet, solo piano brought in at the very end of the album) that just sent me over the top. I know I said the Island stuff was good, but there's nowhere near that kind of consistency for me.

Never win and never lose
There's nothing much to choose
Between the right and wrong
Nothing lost and nothing gained
Still things aren't quite the same
Between you and me

I keep a close watch on this heart of mine
I keep a close watch on this heart of mine

I still hear your voice at night
When I turn out the light
And try to settle down
But there's nothing much I can do
Because I can't live without you
Any way at all

I keep a close watch on this heart of mine
I keep a close watch on this heart of mine

that song hits me hard

bagpipes or none

John Cale's 'The Man Who Couldn't Afford To Orgy' is about the best song title this side of Tom T. Hall.

Yeah I'm sorry I should have clarified...winston, that song hits me real hard, too, with or without bagpipes and truth be told I think the version of it on the Island Years dbl CD (or the Helen of Troy album) with *strings* is actually the superior version (no bagpipes)!

Just picked up Church of Anthrax - newly reissued but no bonus tracks or anything. Fantastic. Other than The Soul of Patrick Lee, you could really think it was some great lost krautrock classic.

Ha, did you read that James Young book?

Nico book? I haven't. I can only imagine.

It’s great. Very funny too.

Interviews where the singer confuses Wiesbaden with Darmstadt.

the first Fluxus concert was in Wiesbaden. Maciunas organized and Nam June Paik performed a Young composition, see around 3:50 here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YibFHWZ66GQ

Ah right, I assumed he meant Darmstat, apologies to John CoCale.

He don't lie, he don't lie, he don't lie, CoCale.

The Bloat Years

#onethread he’s playing Pablo Picasso at the end of Tom’s clip

(insane that he goes right back to madly swinging another mic after the first one flew off)

I was trying to think who he looks like in that video and I've realized it's the landlord of a pub I drink in. Which isn't much use to anyone else.

New album in June!

https://www.dominomusic.com/releases/john-cale/poptical-illusion/exclusive-limited-double-lp

"Beethoven In The Old West" is the Cale-iest Cale song title ever.

Speedy for him!

Man I wish this dude would switch things up in the canned beats department.

Lol