Search And Destroy: Lou Reed

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Is modern-day Lou any good live? He's gonna be in Phoenix next month and I was wondering if it's worth making a two hour drive to see him.

Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Friday, 9 May 2003 05:44 (twenty years ago) link

Search: Lou Reed, Blue Mask, Live In Italy, Berlin, New York
Destroy: The Bells, Rock & Roll Heart
Good, but overrated: Transformer, Rock & Roll animal
Good, and underrated: Growing Up In Public, Legendary Hearts

John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Friday, 9 May 2003 12:53 (twenty years ago) link

four weeks pass...
His new Best Of has "I Wanna Be Black" on it! Classic!

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 6 June 2003 16:43 (twenty years ago) link

eleven months pass...
I heard a chunk of New York a couple days a go in a cab. What crap. Oh, he's a poet. Alright.

Rockist Scientist, Saturday, 5 June 2004 15:56 (nineteen years ago) link

four months pass...
was really diggin lou's acoustic guitar parts on Berlin yesterday afternoon. the lyrics are so dismal, i didnt pay much attention to them (even though yeah-im a sucka for the short story details)

horrible album art i'm afraid

kephm (kephm), Monday, 11 October 2004 13:53 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Search: Blue Mask, Legendary Hearts, New Sensations, Live in Paris

Basically any albums with fretless bassist Fernando Saunders are great. His '80s and '90s work is overlooked.

Patrick South (Patrick South), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 15:27 (nineteen years ago) link

A few people mentioned the live album Take No Prisoners. I find it's not so well known, but fans should check it out. It has some totally transcendant moments: the looong ending to Coney Island Baby; the guitar break in Satellite of Love; the killer bass riffing in Street Hassle.

todd (todd), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 00:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Take No Prisoners is excellent, especially when he completely loses his shit during "Walk on the Wild Side."

I discovered Lou through "New York," so that will probably always be my favorite solo album. After that, probably Berlin, Transformer, and this "Master Class" bootleg (with Little Jimmy Scott) that I really need to Torrent one of these days.

subgenius (subgenius), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 06:39 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
Search: any Lou album containing the word "alright"
Destroy: yourself with scotch, cynicism, meth & tai chi.

Delmore Schwartz, Wednesday, 24 May 2006 01:17 (seventeen years ago) link

two years pass...

dude are you nuts, "What are you, a fucking asshole?" is one of the all-time great interview answers

J0hn D., Tuesday, 10 June 2008 20:32 (fifteen years ago) link

classic

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 23:40 (fifteen years ago) link

classic asshole

deeznuts, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 00:08 (fifteen years ago) link

lou reed, a real classhole

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 00:43 (fifteen years ago) link

but seriously, J0hn D, you should def. try to work "What are you, a fucking asshole?" into any future interviews you do.

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 00:47 (fifteen years ago) link

I think I'm gonna go with "what are you fucking, an asshole?" just to put my own special spin on it

J0hn D., Wednesday, 11 June 2008 00:49 (fifteen years ago) link

three months pass...

I'm not really sure why the song "Coney Island Baby" had never made an impression on me until now, but I sure dig it.

The More You Live The Faster You Will Die (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Sunday, 28 September 2008 08:41 (fifteen years ago) link

still creepy after all these years

velko, Sunday, 28 September 2008 08:58 (fifteen years ago) link

Holy shit, this is amazing, Paris 1974. He's got the whole new wave thing down and punk hasn't even happened yet.
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The More You Live The Faster You Will Die (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Sunday, 5 October 2008 09:26 (fifteen years ago) link

three months pass...

Fopp are selling a box of 5 Lou Reed CDs for £15. I am playing the first record now. It sounds good, my hi-fi seems wired for rock! Transformer, Berlin, Sally Can't Dance, Coney Island Baby to come.

the pinefox, Friday, 9 January 2009 14:52 (fifteen years ago) link

Bizarre: Mark S in summer 2001 was talking about digging through ancient threads

the pinefox, Friday, 9 January 2009 14:56 (fifteen years ago) link

Those threads Egyptians to Mark S's Romans.

ilx chilton (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 9 January 2009 14:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Does that make current ILX the Dark Ages or the Renaissance?

snoball, Friday, 9 January 2009 15:05 (fifteen years ago) link

i think 'transformer' is a really wonderful, consistent record.

'berlin' i like, except for those plodding slow numbers at the end. lou's concept just isn't developed enough for me to buy into the tragedy of those tracks

Charlie Howard, Friday, 9 January 2009 15:06 (fifteen years ago) link

I downloaded Hudson River Wind Meditations from emusic last month. Listening to it is like doing tai-chi without moving.

tylerw, Friday, 9 January 2009 15:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Berlin was a bit of a dissapointed i thought (when i heard it in 2005) I am still rooting for New York. Dirty Blvd is awesome :)

Ludo, Friday, 9 January 2009 15:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Rooting? Have you heard it? Don't believe the doubters, it's terrific!

the pinefox, Friday, 9 January 2009 15:39 (fifteen years ago) link

Ever noticed how awesome Jack Bruce's bass parts are on Berlin?

thirdalternative, Friday, 9 January 2009 18:52 (fifteen years ago) link

'berlin' i like, except for those plodding slow numbers at the end.

!!! the last third with the slow numbers is the good part. I like the album in general but chunks of it are really dire - production/arrangements seem a bit wrong in places.

but if we paid attention to bad arrangements and dire production we'd never listen to Lou!

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 9 January 2009 18:59 (fifteen years ago) link

don't forget the occasionally god-awful singing!

tylerw, Friday, 9 January 2009 19:00 (fifteen years ago) link

speaking of which:
yeesh.

tylerw, Friday, 9 January 2009 19:01 (fifteen years ago) link

wow

The sound of that collabo just made a child wake up and cry.

ilx chilton (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 10 January 2009 03:55 (fifteen years ago) link

hmm. i have a sleeping child handy, let's see if i can duplicate the result...

nope. sleeping soundly. further study required.

(i actually like that clip, but it makes me want to hear just an elvis version of it.)

tipsy mothra, Saturday, 10 January 2009 04:39 (fifteen years ago) link

I've got one light sleeper that woke up and one sound sleeper that didn't so maybe I skewed the results a little bit.

Yeah, EC makes a lot of annoying pretentious career moves, but one has to admit the guy can sing.

ilx chilton (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 10 January 2009 04:46 (fifteen years ago) link

But that EC / Lou performance seems a mess cos Lou's chorus talking is totally out of any rhythm - even with an old pro like EC I kept wondering how he could stay in time with that noise going on.

I think I'd rather hear them both play a full rock version of 'Wild Child'. Come on! I was talking to Chuck in his Ghengiz Khan suit and his wizard's hat ...

Still trying to get the measure of the first Lou Reed solo LP, but I like it; good stereo seems to help with this 1970s material.

the pinefox, Saturday, 10 January 2009 10:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Kind of worth it just for the very start of the solo career: the four bashes on the drum that start 'I Can't Stand It'

the pinefox, Saturday, 10 January 2009 10:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Listening to New York again for first time in years. It sounds terrific! The sound clear, clean, dynamic; the voice up-front and authoritative; all the material so good before they even started. I think it's often been said - even back in 1989 - that this LP's topical lyrical references would come to seem very dated - but that doesn't feel like a problem: a lot of it just isn't dated, and what is seems historically interesting. Maybe this really is the best solo LP.

the pinefox, Saturday, 10 January 2009 10:51 (fifteen years ago) link

I've just heard Transformer in full for the first time, and boy yes it IS strong!!

the pinefox, Saturday, 10 January 2009 20:41 (fifteen years ago) link

coney island baby still best lou reed solo album.

J0hn D., Saturday, 10 January 2009 20:49 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, that's the one I get the most pleasure out of ... Speaking of which, check this out: http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p=90 for a rad version of "Kicks" with Don Cherry! Eeeyagh!

tylerw, Saturday, 10 January 2009 21:20 (fifteen years ago) link

Still prefer The Blue Mask and New Sensations over the rest.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Saturday, 10 January 2009 21:36 (fifteen years ago) link

two years pass...

so amused by Woodstock that tendrils grew right out of his brain.

a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 16:54 (twelve years ago) link

Maybe this thread title should now be Seek & Destroy: Lou Reed, amirite?

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 16:58 (twelve years ago) link

six months pass...

Happy birthday, Lou!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwCwGBHd61s

dlp9001, Friday, 2 March 2012 15:00 (twelve years ago) link

Isn't that Little Lou though?

Some live albums up on Spotify from the Transformer tour. American Poet, Lou Reed Live & Wild, and Satellite of Love. All the same tracks though, some just have the stage patter edited out. Some real good versions, I especially like the Sweet Jane one.

You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike. (hugo), Monday, 5 March 2012 19:10 (twelve years ago) link

xp that's from after Lou left the band and Doug Yule took over. Bowie made the same mistake though.

c'est ne pas un car wash (snoball), Monday, 5 March 2012 19:16 (twelve years ago) link

yes!

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 18:01 (five months ago) link

yessss especially now

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 18:20 (five months ago) link

I’m in.

My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 18:21 (five months ago) link

please

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 18:22 (five months ago) link

Yep.

what does it say about _him_, if he loves women, if he marries women?

to me? nothing. precisely nothing. marrying a woman doesn't have to make you straight. you can love whoever, be whoever, and be queer. it wasn't like that then. he had to _prove_ it. over and over again.

The conclusion Hermes reaches too.

hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 18:40 (five months ago) link

im skittish but maybe

ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 18:59 (five months ago) link

I will get sad at the mean things people will say about “high in the city” but yes go ahead

brimstead, Tuesday, 7 November 2023 20:20 (five months ago) link

I will laugh at the mean things people will say about "Animal Language" because Lou would have wanted it that way.

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 7 November 2023 20:30 (five months ago) link

Ooohhh-wow, bow-wow
Ooohhh-wow, bow-wow

hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 20:54 (five months ago) link

xposts to kate

hermes’ critical distance is a bit disconcerting at times, esp wrt Rachel and the way she is tuned in and out of the story like a low-frequency radio station… but i think, me personally, that his choice to avoid speculation is maybe more uh, respectful somehow.
like i do want the color added but not by hermes, someone better equipped to read between those lines idk someone queer etc etc

though it def does feel cold, when she drops from the story because lou stops talking abt her. it is very much that thing of her only existing when lou chooses to See her which sucks when you stare down the weight of that (and obv a crappy under-acknowledged reality for a lot of queer/trans ppl)

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 22:56 (five months ago) link

(but also i think the book is better than that new yorker review allows but that is just me lol)

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 22:58 (five months ago) link

There's a "more disturbing" version of "The Gun" that's been talked about over many years

have never heard about this -- have you got a link to something about it?

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 23:29 (five months ago) link

From the liner notes for the Between Thought and Expression box set:

On "The Gun" Lou once again takes on the persona of the criminally insane. The effect is chilling. "We had a version of 'The Gun' that was even worse than the one on the album but we all agreed that it went way too far, that none of us would ever listen to it. It just went too far, it went over the line. There was no reason to do that."
The band's performance on the version Lou is referring to is not all that different from what eventually appeared on record. What did go "too far" was Lou's character playing as a couple of improvised lyric lines are so violent as to make the stomach recoil.

visiting, Wednesday, 8 November 2023 00:27 (five months ago) link

in other news the Jokermen podcast 2-parter on Songs For Drella is so gooood, exactly the nerdy indepth exegesis i needed

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 8 November 2023 02:43 (five months ago) link

one month passes...

Ooooh they're takin' her kids away!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVcHLZ4B1mY

Free Ass Ange (Tom D.), Sunday, 17 December 2023 20:46 (four months ago) link


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