STEVE ALBINI

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big fight?

jones (actual), Monday, 25 November 2002 19:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

Hmmm, Sunday morning donut & pop tart rock shows.

donut bitch (donut), Monday, 25 November 2002 20:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

Festivals seem like a stupid idea to me. Who wants to watch a rock band at lunch-time?

Callum (Callum), Monday, 25 November 2002 20:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

Why's there such a big cult of personality around a recording engineer? I don't get it.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Monday, 25 November 2002 20:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

Because it's fun.

donut bitch (donut), Monday, 25 November 2002 20:31 (twenty-one years ago) link

Because of where he PLACES THE MICROPHONES. Ooooh!

hstencil, Monday, 25 November 2002 20:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

''Why's there such a big cult of personality around a recording engineer? I don't get it.''

um, he's not just a recording engineer sundar. shellac, rapeman and big black were/are good rock bands.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 25 November 2002 20:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

It's because of his music? That's even weirder.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Monday, 25 November 2002 21:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

OK he does come across as an idiot and this 'cult' you talk abt (well, since I do live in the UK and don't mix in indie circles)... its the first time I heard of it b-but I like his bands.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 25 November 2002 21:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

Because there are two people here and I want you to kill them.

donut bitch (donut), Monday, 25 November 2002 22:31 (twenty-one years ago) link


Because of where he PLACES THE MICROPHONES. Ooooh!

oh... don't forget the record buttons! and those level knobs! oh shit... and the pan knob!

(really tho... all respect due...)
m.

msp, Tuesday, 26 November 2002 03:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

i think you're confusing tracking with mixing

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 26 November 2002 04:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

I saw Shellac like a month ago. I went because Rye Coalition were opening, and if you don't know about them, ya betta axe somebody. I was thinking about going up to Steve and saying (in numbnuts doofus voice) "Uh, Mister Albini, here's a tape of stuff I did on my 4-track with about $500 worth of equipment. Do you think you could listen to it, and then tell me if I have any talent that you could perhaps mold into something great, take me under your wing, as it goes?" But I drank to many beers and had to leave 3 songs into Shellacs set, so it didn't happen.

Helltime Producto (Pavlik), Tuesday, 26 November 2002 04:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

You guys are nerds.
Seriously. Steve Albini is not Julia Roberts and you are not Mary Hart.

E-to-the-Izzo, Tuesday, 26 November 2002 16:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

And you're not H.L. Mencken so step off already.

hstencil, Tuesday, 26 November 2002 16:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

But you are Dorothy Parker.
No wait, you're W.C. Fields. Or maybe Otto Fishbine? Ian Blurton perhaps?
I always thought it was the thundering/echo-y drums that indicated the Albini-signature sound?

I'm just wondering, I mean, I like some of Albini's stuff as a guitarist, and I certainly own no shortage of Albini-produced/recorded/engineered alb's, but I buy those to hear the band, not the Bean.

I mean, I wouldn't eat burnt fries just because they were made with PEI spuds.

E-to-the-Izzo, Tuesday, 26 November 2002 16:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

Dude, I'm totally Groucho Marx.

hstencil, Tuesday, 26 November 2002 16:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

Then I get to be Margaret Dumont.

E-to-the-Izzo, Tuesday, 26 November 2002 16:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

Well then I'd totally swoon over you, but I don't know you that well.

hstencil, Tuesday, 26 November 2002 16:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

If you knew me better, you wouldn't swoon.
No wait! You're Groucho!
Maybe I should just be Harpo.

Skronk!

E-to-the-Izzo, Tuesday, 26 November 2002 16:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

Why's there such a big cult of personality around a recording engineer? I don't get it.
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It's because of his music? That's even weirder.

sundar you are needed on those threads about Pop processes and performers.....
It looks like you'd be on the 'Pop Personalities! They're GrrrrrrrrATE!' side of things, since there's an implication from the above that the engineering/musician thing should be just be a backroom work-like function? Or have I just misinterpreted a joke?
(I'm not having a go here - I'm genuinely curious....)

Snowy Mann (rdmanston), Tuesday, 26 November 2002 17:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

http://www.galleryofsound.com/pages/type1b.asp?StoryID=588&GENRE=0

albert, Tuesday, 26 November 2002 21:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

I always thought it was the thundering/echo-y drums that indicated the Albini-signature sound?

you're kidding, right? his are the dryest drums i can think of.

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 26 November 2002 22:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

not one drop of reverb allowed near the ambient drum mics (all 150 of them... haha)

gygax!, Tuesday, 26 November 2002 22:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

ILM-friendly Albini article...

oh no it's INDIE!

gygax!, Tuesday, 26 November 2002 22:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

six years pass...

been reading the luke haines book where he speaks fondly about steve albini (and NO ONE ELSE at all ever), which got me thinking about that 2+2 thread where albini answered a bunch of questions about his career. i read all through it a few years back and im sure he spoke about luke haines/auteurs but i can't find it on there, any ilxors remember?

NI, Monday, 18 May 2009 12:52 (fourteen years ago) link

six months pass...

that is so fucking inspiring

not the post office security crap, albini's secret santa thing

a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 10:37 (fourteen years ago) link

TO THE ONE TRUE SANTA ABOVE, THIS IS MY etc.

that is an awesome thing to do. Silly postal service.

FC Tom Tomsk Club (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 11:40 (fourteen years ago) link

The couple contacted U.S. Rep. Danny Davis, D-Ill., who told them he would look into the post office's policy change. But after talking to postal officials, Davis decided he agreed with the policy change.

"Better to be safe than sorry, that what my momma used to tell us," Davis said. "You can't be too protective."

Well... Yes, you can.

Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 15:13 (fourteen years ago) link

That distinctive metallic chingety-ching guitar sound that Albini gets on 'Kerosene' etc... from now on I will only ever hear that as the sound of badly-mic'ed sleigh bells.

The bugger in the short sleeves (NickB), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 15:21 (fourteen years ago) link

aw that's a real nice thing steve.

IT WASN'T NOT FUNNY! (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 16:05 (fourteen years ago) link

er, I thought Albini was a jerk. CONFUSING

lukevalentine, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 16:08 (fourteen years ago) link

i met him once when shellac played my friend's wedding and he was super nice and polite, even talked with their parents and everything.

IT WASN'T NOT FUNNY! (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 16:11 (fourteen years ago) link

Line-up for next week's Letters to Santa benefit in Chicago. Second City has about 200 seats, so it's a nice, intimate place to see bands. I saw Shellac there at 3 a.m. a few years ago, for an audience of about 50; saw Tweedy, Robbie Fulks, and Jason Molina as well. The Blisters is Tweedy's kid's band--maybe 12 years old, now.

Again. Again. Again.
24 hours of improvisation and music.
Second City ETC
1608 N Wells St Chicago, IL
All-ages
$15 for entire 24 hours
Tickets available at the door only.
Tuesday December 15 6pm through Wednesday December 16 6pm
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=146133034046&ref=ts
Auction items, raffle prizes, music and funny

Confirmed Special Guests
7pm Jeff Tweedy
10pm Robbie Fulks
Midnight Asssscat with Horatio Sanz & Matt Walsh with Chicago Guests
3am Flash Mob Marching Band
6am Bonnie Prince Billy
Noon Nina Nastasia
2pm The Mountain Goats
4:30pm The Blisters

Action Orientation (Eazy), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 16:14 (fourteen years ago) link

haha, Shellac plays weddings? wow. but yeah, it seems like Albini likes (or liked) being provocative, but most people who work with him seem to love the guy.

tylerw, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 16:26 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah basically my friends are super fans and his wife to be just emailed bob weston i think and ended up chatting with them about it...they basically had to pay enough to cover the opening touring band's room & board (had a band from NZ on the shellac tour) but anyway it worked out with their schedule and it was really fun, my old band got to open...

they played most of "la grange" and about 30 second of "shout at the devil" wish i recorded that set

IT WASN'T NOT FUNNY! (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 16:29 (fourteen years ago) link

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/9109/stevealbini02dx3.jpg

too shart (am0n), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 16:30 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Steve Albini's cookery blog..

http://mariobatalivoice.blogspot.com/

Night Nurse with Wound (Jack Battery-Pack), Friday, 10 June 2011 11:04 (twelve years ago) link

"I have also successfully cooked for our cats."

classic!

Night Nurse with Wound (Jack Battery-Pack), Friday, 10 June 2011 11:05 (twelve years ago) link

I like how if you go back to the first few entries it reads like the blandest most uninspired cooking blog ever - think there might have been rather a lot of feet-finding here

his 'great mate' Luke Haines just started one as well, can't quite figure out how much his recipes are trolling (unless you're Paul Weller)

Beth Gibbons & Foreskin Man (DJ Mencap), Friday, 10 June 2011 12:52 (twelve years ago) link

Now that is worth bookmarking!

Mark G, Friday, 10 June 2011 13:03 (twelve years ago) link

lol yeah I subscribed to that one

a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Friday, 10 June 2011 13:07 (twelve years ago) link

he sure does make a lot of pasta

call all destroyer, Friday, 10 June 2011 13:12 (twelve years ago) link

Love how all of Albini's hobbies - online poker! cooking blog! - reveal him to be the nice, normal guy his reputation doesn't always convey. Though I think he's mellowed a lot as he creeps toward 50.

Now, an Ian MacKaye cooking blog, that would be a surprise.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 10 June 2011 13:21 (twelve years ago) link

I remember when Fugazi did a recipe column for Maximum Rock'n'Roll and it was for fucking oatmeal, no joke.

NickB, Friday, 10 June 2011 13:24 (twelve years ago) link

The Haines food blog is fucking great.

oppet, Friday, 10 June 2011 13:29 (twelve years ago) link

Luke Haines?

kornrulez6969, Friday, 10 June 2011 13:41 (twelve years ago) link

x-post

Ian M.'s been a vegetarian for awhile and a parent for a few years so maybe he could do some interesting blog posts

curmudgeon, Friday, 10 June 2011 13:43 (twelve years ago) link

in some recent henry rollins interview (on wtf i think) he was talking about how he basically hates the whole 'eating' thing and mostly eats oatmeal.

adult music person (Jordan), Friday, 10 June 2011 13:46 (twelve years ago) link

Electrical Audio had a forum where Albini was a regular poster, would not be remotely surprising if he was frequenting music chat rooms or Usenet back in the day.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 23 February 2024 20:46 (one month ago) link

two weeks pass...

Advice from the font on mic'ing guitars
https://www.premierguitar.com/artists/guitarists/steve-albini-always-in-session

ringworm, Sunday, 10 March 2024 17:48 (one month ago) link

Interesting, thanks

The Ginger Bakersfield Sound (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 10 March 2024 18:14 (one month ago) link

Strings and Picks

-Ice picks with the points cut off
-D’Addario XLs (.012–.016–.020w–.028–.038–.048)

Electrical Audio had a forum where Albini was a regular poster

Still does, premierrockforum.com (sold electrical.com for what I presume was solid money about 5 years ago)

assert (matttkkkk), Sunday, 10 March 2024 19:36 (one month ago) link

one month passes...

https://bsky.app/profile/electricalwsop.bsky.social/post/3kprvpyaqoh24

Finalizing Fall US tour dates and my frustration with with exorbitant ticket fees is at peak. It's like pulling teeth to have tickets available at face value, which we insist on. Being fair, some venues are fine and cooperative, but this whole practice should be illegal.

For the unfamiliar, venues typically contract a ticket agency to sell their tickets for them online, and sometimes these deals require all ticket sales to go through the agency. The agencies add ticket fees on top of the face value, and kick back a percentage of the fee to the venue.

In the best case, the fees are modest, a couple of bucks, and charging a premium for the convenience of online buying seems reasonable. In bigger markets the fees can amount to an extra 30% over face value, with the venue getting on the order of 1/3 of the fee kicked back.

This is preposterous on its face, tantamount to fraud and should not be tolerated by anybody. It persists because the fiction of "face value" allows negotiation of deals with bands that *look* fair, but contain a massive hidden payout to the venue or promoter. Booking agents are complicit in this...

Because the money doesn't come out of their end. Bands are often completely in the dark about these fees so as not to rile them up, and the "face value" of tickets is at an all-time high to begin with. It's a cozy one-hand-washes-the-other arrangement between them, a very close analog to merch fees.

In both cases, if you look at the deal on paper, the band may be receiving a reasonable percentage of the gig income and the agent gets their fee from that part, but there is a hidden cost born by the audience, unaccounted and ignored that is a naked money grab by the venue.

And in the most egregious cases, tickets bought at the box office are still padded with ticket surcharges and fees. They've taken to charging you for the privilege of buying a ticket. Exactly like charging you five bucks to unlock the pump before you buy gas.

Most bands are insulated from this situation by having booking agents as intermediaries. It's only bands that get into the granular detail of their shows that even know that there are ticket fees attached, much less that their "$25" ticket actually costs a fan $34.

Hey I know it's rough out there earning a living in the arts. I'm aware. I know venues are squeezed by agents for absurd guarantees and they're looking for a way to get over, trying to find an edge. I'm aware and that's bullshit too. But it's fraudulent and reprehensible and everybody should say so.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 April 2024 15:18 (six days ago) link

good post

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Wednesday, 10 April 2024 15:22 (six days ago) link

John Fogerty and Bonnie Raitt tickets are currently over $200 for shows here that won't even happen for six months

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Wednesday, 10 April 2024 15:23 (six days ago) link

Thread is currently pretty Albini-active. Someone asks:

what do you make of what the cure accomplished with ticketmaster? (www.vulture.com/2023/04/the-...) is this kind of pressure campaign even possible for indie acts that play midsize venues? does the fact that more big acts don't do what robert smith did just reflect negligence on their part?

Albini responds:

Like I said, it's an issue largely (intentionally) kept in the dark for the bands. Robert Smith took an interest and had influence because of his stature, but most bands don't know about the street price of their tickets, and by the time they find out it's too late to do anything.

It's plainly true that every line of every deal for every show is negotiable, but weeding through it all and getting venues to agree is a huge drag on time, energy and patience, and I totally get why most bands just abdicate/delegate it to their booking agencies. It sucks having to do it.

The major problem with booking agencies is they have no incentive to make deals efficient or transparent. They get a percentage of what the band gets paid, and cannot care about anything else on the page. If inefficient shadiness gets the band an extra grand, they get an extra $150 and that's great.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 April 2024 15:27 (six days ago) link

I’ve definitely ran into “the $25 ticket is really $34” this year at semi-indie venues (local promoters who book at multiple venues). After getting burned a few times, I just add it in now when considering going (which sucks).

paisley got boring (Eazy), Wednesday, 10 April 2024 15:28 (six days ago) link

The fees are one thing but something that really gets me is when venues are directly partnered with third party ticket brokers through the app I am forced to download to access venues, I have def been looking for tickets to "sold out" shows where the venue app has helpfully linked me to these brokers for "somewhat" greater than face value tickets, where is the oversight that keeps the venues honest?

chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 10 April 2024 17:17 (six days ago) link

enjoying Steve's gear nerd Youtube career

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxZwaqVBo-k

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 17:36 (five hours ago) link

I love it that he calls them 'amplifiers' instead of 'amps'.

ArchCarrier, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 18:11 (five hours ago) link

Nice to see this from Steve.

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 18:13 (five hours ago) link

I am shocked by how excited I am for a new Shellac album.

Allen (etaeoe), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 21:17 (two hours ago) link


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