Let's talk about Vice Magazine

sorry i thought you were saying 'i just thought this was a quality publication, didn't know people associated it with crypto racist creepiness until one of its writers started working in TV and that became their high profile baggage'

i wasn't

seeing that interviewer frying made me want to drop acid again, which is something I am quite certain I should never do again

― decrepit but free (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, June 27, 2012 12:23 AM (54 minutes ago)

haha, I had an overwhelmingly strong taste memory when she took it, then my stomach started churning

I might be tripping right now tbh

Danny "u should cut ur ex-girlfriend's face lol" Dyer cast as a guy who goes round slicing up women with a home-made shank? Sadly i can't even feign surprise.

I was very disappointed that it wasn't Dyer on acid after reading the headline.

"There are no bugs in here. This is a safe place."

Oh man, I know that feeling.

i wasn't

― some dude nights (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, June 27, 2012 12:46 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

did you waste your life because you read a magazine by one of the people who went on to make Girls or because you didn't try to write for a place that might one day be a springboard into working for HBO? i guess that's the part that really confused me

posting on ilx, iirc

Roffle:

https://twitter.com/rupertmurdoch/status/257196280781099008

https://twitter.com/greggutfeld/status/257196757291769856

"Damn, Myspace didn't work, hey I've heard of this new hip thing, get me the guy behind it!" "Uh, sir..."

to be fair, most of the media expansion and interesting stuff has come post-mcinnes

and he's on fox news, makes u think

He was always going to end up there.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/aug/17/rupert-murdoch-vice-magazine-stake

https://twitter.com/rupertmurdoch/status/257199865879224320

they've gotten so good as-of-late

They have. I liked this article I read earlier today. http://www.vice.com/read/irish-models-media-misogyny-roisin-kiberd-129

a little weird hearing "sponsored by VICE" before public radio shows like this american life now

His insult and lack of regard for the work my colleagues had done for decades covering war, genocide and famine in Africa put blood in my eye, and I suggested that “Just because you put on a” — insert spicy, unprintable modifier here — “safari helmet and looked at some poop doesn’t give you the right to insult what we do.”

The skirmish didn’t seem relevant to the column, but Andrew Rossi, who was making a documentary about The Times, was filming the scene, and it became an oft-cited bit to suggest that Vice’s news ambitions were minimal.

Being the crusty old-media scold felt good at the time, but recent events suggest that Vice is deadly serious about doing real news that people, yes, even young people, will actually watch. And given that Vice has been in talks with Time Warner for a partnership that may include its bringing its guerrilla aesthetic to an entire news channel, it’s worth looking at its growth and development as a source of hard news.

say whatever you will about vice, i really don't think we need another 24 hr news channel

the amount of times i've read something awesome on vice and then read something so eye-cuntingly awful it's made me hate vice all over again...

http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2015/02/18/vice-media-chief-said-to-pay-300000-for-dinner-for-30/

I can't even imagine the menu that would lead to a bill like that.

http://media.boreme.com/post_media/2009/billionaire-lunch-receipt.jpg

just a few bottles of whatever the most expensive wine is

that la tache is less than half the (retail) price of the most expensive romanée conti wine, which would be over $10k a bottle even at retail

anyway, as obnoxious as shane smith must be, his reportage in the vice hbo show is mostly excellent (one about fraud in afghanistan especially)

Yeah it's all drinks, tax and tip (going to guess that $50k is simply gratuity and another $25k tax). Of the $300k my guess is that the actual food part of it maybe amounted to $10-15k at most.

cool

my guess is cognac/brandy in addition to wine/champagne

Sorry wasn't meant to be an apology for it (it's gross) just pointing out that issue isn't really with the menu (which is surely high end but probably not remarkably so) but with whatever insanely price-y wines/champagnes were picked out.

http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/vice-h2-a-and-e-1201483429/

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/11/style/nesting-the-vice-media-way.html?_r=1

http://i.imgur.com/6D6JV8r.jpg

Mr. Morton said he owes his journalistic chops to his years tending that jar; a recent story had him hanging out in the kitchen of a crack-cooking trap musician in Atlanta.

could he BE more vice?

i saw an impeccably dressed white dude in his 60's riding the train today reading the NYT style section, that photo of the two dudes in the loft took up like 75% of the space above the fold

My favorite part of articles like that is waiting to find out where the money came from for the loft/condo/treehouse.
Retroactively disappointed in Errol Morris for bringing that into the world.

My favorite part of articles like that is waiting to find out where the money came from for the loft/condo/treehouse.

yup. they usually try to underplay the reveal, too.

i sometimes wonder why anyone lives in NYC.

i do too (to answer both questions)

http://www.avclub.com/article/nadya-pussy-riot-writing-column-vice-221064

you couldnt have just linked directly her column?

http://www.vice.com/read/pussy-riot-sewing-in-the-streets-618

'offered without comment'

let's talk about vice magazine's belief in iridology
http://www.vice.com/read/will-your-eyes-change-colour-on-a-raw-vegan-diet-or-is-it-all-bullshit

I was reading a piece on vice just yesterday about the pseudo-scientific practice of voluntary trepanation. maybe this is a new direction for them.

"In iridology, the stomach area is represented just outside the pupil. If people have real digestive problems, that can make this area appear more a bit more brown."

can't argue with that

vice loves pseudo science type stuff. read the tao lin pieces on terrence mckenna

"tao lin pieces on terrence mckenna"

this sounds like hell

i feel like vice can do no greater disservice to its millennial followers than to propagate (or even give voice to) psuedoscientific new age bullshit.

there's a great mark jacobson piece on terrence mckenna if u can find it - i don't know if it's online but it is in his teenage hipster in the modern world collection

for some strange reason it comforts me to know that my generation is just as credulous + batty as all the other ones

i really hate to discover that battles i thought had been fought and won (like, say, vaccination) have to be fought all over again.,

i like the idea that human consciousness came into being from apes ingesting psilocybin mushrooms