so what do we think about ***INSTANT REPLAY***???

instant replay would only hamper the yankees; can't have it

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/9570618/mlb-expands-instant-replay-2014-include-manager-video-challenges

...pending owner approval at the winter meetings.

Neyer has some thoughts

Here's what UNLIMITED VIDEO REVIEW might well mean: After every close play, everybody in the ballpark -- the umpires on the field, the players, the fans, the broadcasters -- would stop whatever they're doing, and look up toward the press box, where presumably this extra umpire will be stationed. Upon him and him alone, the fate of the world rests. That's a lot of pressure, plus you're asking an umpire to second-guess his colleagues many times per game. Which won't be any fun at all.

So it wouldn't be any fun, and it would slow the game down, and it would shift everyone's attention away from the field (where it should be) to the press box (where it shouldn't be).

Now, one could add a wrinkle. The umpire in the booth might not be the final arbiter. Instead, he might quickly flag questionable plays, so quickly that perhaps nobody would bother waiting for him. If it's not immediately questionable, play continues apace. If it's truly questionable -- I'm guessing this would happen three or four times per game -- the guy in the booth could halt play, and hand things off to the boys in New York with all their high-def monitors and super-slo-mo gizmos and whatnot.

But none of this is really easy, or simple. If it was, they would have done it already.

http://www.baseballnation.com/2013/8/15/4624936/mlb-instant-replay-system-review-manager-challenges

rip managerial ejections

this is huge

In my opinion, it worked in ice hockey, fwiw.

under very limited circumstances, tho -- nashville couldn't protest matt duchene being a mile offside for instance

arizona fall league is testing instant replay challenges this week

tonight's game featured seven reviews and three reversals

To marry this change with enforcing the pitch time limit wd be cool.

Would managers challenge all walk-off plays?

people thought that would happen in tennis but it by and large hasn't, it's kind of an etiquette thing i guess

To marry this change with enforcing the pitch time limit wd be cool.

yeah, they're going to need to avoid adding 15 minutes onto game lengths. although i guess maybe televised games could do some of their precious commercials while the plays are under review.

no the public demands 8 angles in that time, even if the result is obvious.

commercials during reviews would just be additional -- it's not like they'd reduce between-innings ads

perfect!

well i shouldn't complain. more commercials are good for the game because it feeds into the trillions of tv $ that each team gets, which in turn enables every GM to occasionally go on a bender and wake up having signed a 8 year $200 million+ contract with 31 year old home run hitter

two manager's challenges per team per game. So, the human element will still blow some games!

http://www.baseballnation.com/2013/11/14/5104382/mlb-baseball-instant-replay-video-review-new-rules-manager-challenges

Just making shit up.

@BNightengale
Instant replay challenge rules continue to change: Now its one challenge in 1st 7 IP and one extra if you win challenge; 1 after 7th #MLB

so on the BP podcast today they reported a rumor that 'the neighborhood play' will not be reviewable, and Sam Miller said that wd be crap, cuz it's bad to have rules that are actually never enforced in the rulebook.

approved!

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/10305223/mlb-owners-ok-expanded-replay-2014

And baseball expects most reviews to be completed in "about a minute," he said, with occasional reviews taking up to a minute and a half.

Seems optimistic, but besides that, I'm really happy they finally did this.

What's the statute of limitations? I want them to credit the '92 Jays with that triple play, and there are two or three other postseason series they may have to play over.

btw teams can now show any replays on the videoboard.

also umpires will never leave the field! they get the word from MLB behind home plate.

Christmas in April-October

also, the NEIGHBORHOOD PLAY is not reviewable! so break them rules at second.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article/mlb/major-league-baseball-unveils-state-of-the-art-replay-center

some interesting details in here that i didn't know about (not that i've been following it that closely). it's good that they'll apparently begin to review plays before a team makes an official appeal - that should cut down on the time it takes. also,

The replay official has three possible calls. Confirmed: If replay shows clear evidence that the umps got it right. Stands: The replay was too close to tell one way or the other. Overturned: If there is inarguable evidence that a mistake was made.

While this is going on, teams will now be allowed to show close plays on their video boards. If calls are confirmed or overturned, the technician will then forward the decisive angle to the stadium so that it can be shown on the scoreboard as well as on the television broadcasts. To further add transparency and fan-friendliness, a written explanation of the decision will be posted on MLB.com.

Good review of some of the possible complications and loopholes:

http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/45345/instant-replay-what-can-go-wrong

The bigger potential issue will be stalling by managers. This wasn't a big deal in spring training because nothing was on the line, but I suspect we'll see some strange shenanigans once the real games begin. When issuing a challenge, a manager is supposed to leave the dugout and issue his challenge to the umpire (there will be no flag tossing as in the NFL). But there appears to be a gray area here.

If a manager goes out to argue a call, how long before the umpire demands to know whether he's issuing a challenge? Teams will be allowed to monitor replays from the clubhouse and have some sort of relay system to alert the manager on whether to challenge, so I suspect we may see a lot of arguments in which the manager keeps looking back into dugout for the bench coach to scratch his armpit.

Fredi Gonzalez has gone out to argue/stall 3 times tonight and gone back in without any challenges.

I guess we'll see "clarifications" on that part of the rule soon where they limit the number of times a manger can leave the dugout, but they could just have the on-deck batter stall and go back to the dugout three times to switch bats or tuck in his shirt.

I thought a manager had 30sec to issue a challenge?

Still a few bugs to be worked out. (Braves score 2 runs on a ball Freddie Freeman hit off his own foot into fair territory -- the umps didn't see it and it's not a reviewable play.)

I'm not sure what the hell happened there... it looked like it hit the dirt right next to his foot, but the bounce sure was funny.

Bryan Price wouldn't take "call stands" for an answer, gets tossed in 1st vs. Braves.

Yikes--Baseball Reference includes challenge-related data on a manager's page:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/managers/willima04.shtml

Formulas and year-end awards to follow.

baseball-reference has been going nuts with awesome new stuff lately <3

Don't get me wrong, I'm always in favour of new data, it just seems weird that the page goes right from the most basic stuff imaginable--wins, losses, divisional rank--to challenges. Is there nothing else about a manager between here and there worth keeping track of? Average innings from a starter, sacrifices, pinch-hitters, shifts, trips to the mound--about a million things, I would think.

"We have begun to examine the Crew Chief Review in tonight's Reds-Marlins game, which resulted in a violation of Rule 7.13, the call being overturned and a run scoring on the play. We plan to discuss this situation further with the appropriate parties tomorrow, and we will communicate with the Clubs after our discussion about this play."

http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2014/8/1/5959739/reds-marlins-instant-replay-review-blocking-plate-rule

I know this isn't exactly enlightened analysis, but this was certainly much more fun than watching guys stand around a phone, waiting to hear back from New York.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zx7-8w4QD64

"He's gotta get out the way! He's gotta get out of the way!"

cardinals vs reds

there was a force out play at 2B, the runner appeared to beat the throw, and the fielder appeared to be off the bag when he caught it anyway. call on the field was out. it was reviewed. they declared him to be...out.

he was clearly safe. like, not in that too-close-to-call gray zone, but clearly, without-a-doubt safe. so ???

Pitcher Chris Young otm:

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/why-mlb-needs-to-keep-exploring-ways-to-improve-pace-of-play-021308998.html

"The biggest thing I'd like to see is the automatic strike zone," Young said. "It's the single most important aspect to the game and the most subjective aspect. Umpires do an amazing job, but they're human beings, and there's a margin of error there. To me, that would speed up the game dramatically.

"Half the time now it's guys stepping out of the box, asking where the call was. It doesn't eliminate the home-plate umpire. You still need him for check swings, plays at the plate. It makes his job easier. And you know what you're going to get. I know when I step off the mound, half the time it's to think, 'OK, don't get wrapped up in the call.' I gather myself, compose myself. But it takes a minute. We're human beings. We get focused on what we consider a missed call."

Interesting bizniz at the Cubs-Braves game -- on a passed ball or wild pitch, Camargo came home but was called out on the tag. The replay seems to show him pretty clearly safe, but the call was upheld by the replay official. Joe Simpson flat-out accused them of covering for the ump's shitty call ("protecting the brotherhood"), which had Chip Caray trying to calm the waters in the next half inning.

wasn't there a reversed replay call involving the A's about a week ago that everyone was mad about? i don't think recall umps are "protecting the brotherhood" but the wording about needing clear and definitive proof to overturn (or however it's phrased) gives them a convenient reason to not overturn (i didn't see camargo being "pretty clearly safe" in the replay personally, but i am a cubs fan obv)

That was one of the WORST replay reviews I’ve ever seen.

Conclusive?
Definitive?
Call on the field meant nothing? pic.twitter.com/50Phgtbo43

— Brodie Brazil (@BrodieNBCS) May 12, 2018

that's the reversal i was referring to

“Out” pic.twitter.com/5ahcXzqh4W

— Josh Reddick (@RealJoshReddick) September 10, 2018

starting to think instant replay is bad for the game

I bet the 1985 Cardinals wd disagree

we just had a Very Bad use of replay erasing whit merrifield in kc-bos

Not a fan of this sh1t. You lose a call go cry to your grandma

Red Sox challenge call that Whit Merrifield is safe at 2B in the 1st; call overturned, runner is out. Powered by @Mitel. pic.twitter.com/MRCn2rvu0z

— MLB Replays (@MLBReplays) August 7, 2019

starting to think calstars is Billy Martin