no boys allowed in the room!!!!

I've heard rumours they'll be in a movie (non porn!?) together. I CAN'T WAIT.

Yep. A Bret Easton Ellis flick apparently.

As soon as I saw the sirens I knew/hoped it was James. I've got to get over this crush, it's silly.

ok so i watched river's edge again. exceeded my expectations tbh. i had forgotten that keanu (1) was so angry (the scene where he gets interrogated by the police is great, you've got FOOD EATER!)and (2) them moral center of the movie, aided by the stunning Ione Skye, who basically every hip young lady with long hair tries to look like now, amirite?

i had also forgotten the DOUBLE down by the river stories (John's and Feck's) and how they talked about it, and wondered if people recognized this as a classic murder ballad plot back when the movie came out, or?

also the music was great. the end.

the moral center, not them!
oops

theres some real bad acting in that movie

crispin ftw

i love it when the mom freaks out at the top of the stairs

keanu is really ott but that's part of what i like about it. the cartoonish behavior of teenagers is cartoonish, right? maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan.

i feel like keanu is one of the best actors in that movie, sadly!

obv dhop and crispin are good

i guess all teenagers are acting, so i couldn't really see the difference between acting for the movie and acting because they were real life living breathing teenagers

I feel like Alex James has slimmed down for this whole Olympics/rooftop show splash. Also I want to go to this 'feastival' he and Jamie are putting on but that's unlikely. ;_;

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hubba hubba

college radio station was playing a song off Phantasmagoria earlier, which reminded me of another teen crush:

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his last feastival was a huge disaster wasnt it??

Dunno, never heard of it! Things only enter my radar when Blur are involved. :)

Vanian is still not bad looking! But looks strangely like John Cusack these days.

omg he does look like John Cusack now!

lol after I posted that pic of deen this morning I kept thinking that I remembered him from somewhere and I remembered where and, yeah, I get it.

Hah! :)
He sneaks up on you.

yeah alex james had a feastival at his house and no one got paid and a primary school had to fire someone because they went into debt, or something

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/lostinshowbiz/2011/sep/15/day-the-festival-dream-died

oh ps that kid upthread typecast as every asshole kid ever in the 80s came up last night at trivia!!!!

Nice!

oops wrong link above

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2012/mar/04/alex-james-festival

I'm sure the organisers of the Aus Harvest festival might have had words with him about the name too, perhaps. lol.

Welp, my parents are still crazy about weight, notably everyone else's, including famous people on tv.

Watching The Pelican Brief, my dad says of Julia Roberts, "By the time she made this movie, she was already not thin anymore." (This is nonsense, her chin was sharp enough to cause bodily harm to the other actors and possibly the furniture.)

My mother told me I could lose weight if I "worked on portion control."

My dad said if I stopped eating doughnuts (I was eating a doughnut at that moment), my work-outs & activities would go further. I told him yes, but my life would also be terribly sad.

To all of which, I say: FFFFF UUUUU!!!

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Thanks. I just needed to get that off my chest.

Blehh.

oh, man, Laurel. fwiw it took me about three years to wean my mother off making unsolicited remarks about my weight and how I could lose it. but she has stopped, unbelievably. i wish i could stop her from talking about how disgustingly fat she is around me, but i guess that's her business. anyway, i'm sorry, but i found that telling my mother it was inappropriate for her to police my body and that i wouldn't respond to any such comments in the future eventually worked. it took a long time.

that was two separate thoughts: i'm sorry your parents pulled that on you. and also, this is what i did that eventually worked on my mother.

Would probably have just taken the doughnut and mashed it into his forehead.

But that would have involved the loss of lovely delicious doughnut, so...

Blehh indeed.

haha i like your way better, WCC

Sounds like my parents. :(

I was eating some froyo last weekend while walking around and realized that I was really self-conscious about doing so and felt like people were judging me for eating yogurt. I know that sounds crazy but this is what happens when you've dealt with parents who say those sort of things and incidents like when I was about 14 and enjoying a cone while walking down the street with friends in Fire Island and some fucking meathead I didn't even know shouted at me "I don't think you need that, sweetheart".

It's okay! I quipped back and ate another doughnut! What is probably worse for me than being burdened by them about my weight, is the anger that I carry instead about their small-mindedness. It makes me window-punching, fight-starting mad.

Also neither one of them could bike 5 miles, drink for 5 hours, bike home, and then get up early to highland dance in another state, in the sun, all day.

I basically trained my mother out of making those kinds of comments by putting the phone down every time she started in on them. This does not work if your parents are there in person.

Reminds me, I did mean to post a copy of Health At Every Size to my Mum, as I have mostly got her to stop fat-shaming me, but talking about herself is another story. :-/

Parents are so hard to deal with. I worry about having a daughter in the future because I know I'll have to work really hard at not passing along my own issues and even having to acknowledge that makes me sad.

TBH my parents have been better in recent years. I think though that's mostly because my mother realized how completely fucked up I am about this stuff when I started coming home for visits and immediately asking how I looked and if I lost weight. Every single time. She hasn't really said anything to me lately. Actually, she commented on how she didn't understand why I was so obsessed with weight and appearance since she never told me that was the most important thing. To a certain extent she's right that she didn't but I do think she underestimates the toll that certain attitudes and comments can have over time.

Laurel, it used to make me burn with unexpressed anger when my parents said these things to me. as an adult i just started expressing the anger. that wasn't particularly effective in making my mom stop but it did make me feel better. and then after i had gotten mad one million times i did what WCC did--end the conversation if she got on that topic.

generally i feel bad after i yell at my mom, but i was buoyed by the righteousness of my indignation in this case, tbh.

It got a lot easier to end the conversation and move on, after doing that thing that you say, Laurel - point out what your body can actually do.

My mum stopped clucking her tongue about me eating chips and ice cream in Cornwall after she saw me walk a 7 mile hike along the coast in an afternoon, then still pop out to buy us takeaway afterwards.

It's often about parents' own fears. For my Mum, perhaps this is legitimate, as she has genuine mobility issues (but I'm not so sure that those are weight related as she believes - or has been told.) But that whole "my body does what I need it to" is a great STFU method.

I don't feel bad, my mom is the source of fully half this shit. We were talking about a young woman they know who is smart, and pleasant, and successful, and my mom said, "It's so sad, she's obviously built just like her mother." Of my brother's ex-girlfriend, she said, "Oh, she was never thin, and she's going to be huge, she's going to be her mother all over again" so obviously my mom's brain is taken over by a selective insanity about inheriting weight problems.

"weight" "problems" FUCKING A, THEY'VE GOT MY BRAIN NOW TOO HELLLLLLLLP

I was eating some froyo last weekend while walking around and realized that I was really self-conscious about doing so and felt like people were judging me for eating yogurt. I know that sounds crazy but this is what happens when you've dealt with parents who say those sort of things and incidents like when I was about 14 and enjoying a cone while walking down the street with friends in Fire Island and some fucking meathead I didn't even know shouted at me "I don't think you need that, sweetheart".

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soooo terrible. similar things happened to me when i was at a super awkward age and it had a lifelong effect.

when i was a dancer at age 14, I was 5'7", 130 lbs. a dance mom (not even a teacher) took me and another girl aside and told us we should lose weight if we didn't want to embarrass the rest of the team.

That's the kind of thing that makes my inner stroppy 14 year old want to travel back in time and punch her for you. >:-(

(Or mash a doughnut in her face.)

i never told my mom about that, to this day, cause i was scared she would just agree and put me on a diet or something

laurel i just saw this but i KNEW this would happen! i pray to something or other that your mom never sees this, but she is BANANAS about talking about weight. she made me self-conscious!
i am glad you are reacting in the way that you are, even if it is frustrating.

small people fret about their weight too, we have all had these experiences. it's upsetting.

upsetting in its pervasiveness, i mean

When my dad felt qualified to pass judgment on a Hollywood star who has been kinda famously thin, in a movie that was, what, like 20 years old?? from the comfort of his spacious living room couch in front of a big-screen tv (which had the aspect ratio off, btw, which is probably why she seemed "wide" if at all), I just wanted to hit him with bricks until he was sorry enough for me to feel like stopping.

It's often about parents' own fears.

Whoa, yeah, that is super true. I wrote some examples but it felt like therapy but this has been OTM in my experience with my mom.

Anyway, for all of her issues that she tried hard to foist on me during my childhood, my mom is a pretty reasonable person and she loves me a lot so the last time I regained all the weight I lost on a diet and she started in with the concern-trolling, I just told her that I am never going on another diet again, and that my weight was not now nor would it ever be an appropriate topic for discussion. And to her credit, she dropped it.

Ongoing training includes me telling her that it's not okay to use "fat" as an insult against someone that she is angry at (Actual conversation: "The problem isn't that he is fat, Mom. The problem is that he is an asshole." "He's a fat asshole!"), that she needs to stop calling herself fat because she used to wear a size 4 and now, at 63, wears a six or sometimes *gasp* an 8, or at least stop doing that around me.

Haha I just realized that my mom concern-trolls the ENTIRE WORLD about their weight. "It's so sad that she's freakishly successful and happy and yet larger than a size 10."

Laurel, yeah that is just straight up ridiculous. What happens when you say something, because I know you do?

Your parents are really awesome and industrious people, but they don't seem to have a real appreciation for diversity of lifestyle, yknow? I've been fortunate that my parents accepted a long time ago to expect me to do my own thing instead of what they or other people think I should be doing and that this will NEVER CHANGE so they have to either love me anyway, or stop talking to me. Fortunately, they continue to choose to put up with me.

Carl, your patience is an inspiration.

yeah my mom is a big lady and her mom was a really tiny lady. i know she essentially had an eating disorder in high school ("before it was called that"). she once criticized beyonce's thighs when she popped up on TV. i was in hell

My strategy for when my parents ask about my weight is to act like it's not something I've ever heard of before. "Oh what? Weight? I'm not sure. Who knows? I don't really think about it." Though they're pretty nice about it and I think they both think it's one of those small talk topics like the weather.