Eyes Wide Shut

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wasn't steve martin originally who kubrick wanted for the lead? way back in the 80s iirc?

tylerw, Monday, 25 June 2012 19:50 (eight years ago) link

what was the deal with keitel? why do I remember something about someone cumming in kidman's hair? maybe that was my own dream.

akm, Monday, 25 June 2012 20:00 (eight years ago) link

it's apparently a myth, but a myth with explanatory power, like the anecdote about kubrick called up stephen king asking if he believed in god.

Philip Nunez, Monday, 25 June 2012 20:04 (eight years ago) link

This is showing in DC this summer for a Kubrick retrospective. Can't wait to see it on the big screen

Moreno, Monday, 25 June 2012 20:35 (eight years ago) link

havin a hard time not seeing bateman every time cruise pulls the charming face in this:


slugbuggy, Thursday, 28 June 2012 08:06 (eight years ago) link


slugbuggy, Thursday, 28 June 2012 08:11 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Obviously they are very different films, but I kept getting these weird "Eyes Wide Shut" vibes when I was watching Argento's "Inferno" the other day. Something about the set design, and Keith Emerson's piano score, and the general mood. Admittedly, it's been a while since I've seen "EWS."

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 12 July 2012 15:16 (seven years ago) link

three months pass...

Brief thoughts of Kidman:

People thought that making the film was the beginning of the end of my marriage -- but I don't really think it was. Tom and I were close then, and it was very much the three of us. Onscreen, the husband and wife are at odds, and Stanley wanted to use our marriage as a supposed reality. That was Stanley: He used the movie as provocation, pretending it was our sex life. Which we weren't oblivious to, but obviously it wasn't us. We both decided to dedicate ourselves to a great filmmaker and artist.

Stanley had to coax me into some of the sexuality in the film in the beginning, but we shot things that were a lot more extreme that didn't end up in the movie. I did feel safe -- I never felt it was exploitive or unintelligent. He was very different with women than he was with men. He has daughters, so he was very paternal with me.


crazy uncle in the attic (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 16:10 (seven years ago) link

Paternalism resulted in her best performance ever.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 16:18 (seven years ago) link

we shot things that were a lot more extreme that didn't end up in the movie


TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 16:45 (seven years ago) link

I liked Slavoj Zizek's take, that a major theme of the film was that fantasy is destroyed the moment it's realized.

SongOfSam, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 16:55 (seven years ago) link

And all that's left after that is Christmas shopping.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 16:56 (seven years ago) link

fantasy is destroyed the moment that... OH JESUS THIS ISN'T WHAT I WANTED AT ALL

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 17:43 (seven years ago) link

eyes wide shut uh http://www.visual-memory.co.uk/amk/doc/0096.html

live or die merits of the button thread (wolves lacan), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 18:52 (seven years ago) link

great essay, especially for the phrase "the groans of critical blueballs"

anyone else see Room 237 yet/ are ppl talking on another thread abt it?

❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Thursday, 25 October 2012 05:00 (seven years ago) link

The Shining

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Thursday, 25 October 2012 05:04 (seven years ago) link

of course

❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Thursday, 25 October 2012 05:09 (seven years ago) link

just now:

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well done, ilx

slugbuggy, Thursday, 25 October 2012 07:19 (seven years ago) link

dunno why i was impressed w/ unremarkable coincidences. 237th post discussing the room 237 doc abt the shining while watching the south park episode parodying the shining. i r dumb that way.

at the same time that you were more dear to me than ever, i would have given everything -- everything -- for just one moment with him

― Surmounter, Tuesday, July 1, 2008 8:09 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this seems crucial somehow wrt the zizek piece, i think. dr. bill's odyssey isn't about the fulfillment of fantasy; he doesn't even have one of his own. he's just wandering around trying on what he thinks fantasy is supposed to look like. in the taxi scene where he's imagining alice with the naval officer, i think as much as he's haunted by hurt and jealousy towards his wife he's equally or more so envious of her having a fantasy that consuming and destructive.

slugbuggy, Friday, 26 October 2012 07:10 (seven years ago) link

i have to award points on the "destructive" part, tho, he did accomplished that much ok.

slugbuggy, Friday, 26 October 2012 07:18 (seven years ago) link

three months pass...

that's marvellous

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 10 February 2013 20:01 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

hey, the Village set doesn't make sense


Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 March 2013 16:30 (seven years ago) link

never noticed the walking in front of rear projection before!

turds (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 26 March 2013 17:44 (seven years ago) link

My humble take on it is that Kidman was at the party if not in person, in spirit. Consider:

- Opening shot of the film, where she drops her dress the same way as the masked women during the ritual

- The upsetting dream she has, which is close to the events that Cruise witnessed at the house

- The final line of the film, spoken by her, in repsonse to Cruise asking what they should do : "Fuck"

calstars, Thursday, 28 March 2013 02:35 (seven years ago) link

Also, striking use of red:

- Hallway as Cruise descends into the Sonata cafe

- Domino's front door

- Pool table that Pollack leans over towards the end of the film

calstars, Thursday, 28 March 2013 02:40 (seven years ago) link

Also the color of the robe of the master of ceremonies at the ritual

calstars, Thursday, 28 March 2013 02:40 (seven years ago) link

never noticed the walking in front of rear projection before!

― turds (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, March 26, 2013 5:44 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i totally noticed it but was never sure if it was meant to be noticed or not.

la noche de la vaca (latebloomer), Thursday, 28 March 2013 03:12 (seven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

'Dream Story' is a quick read for anyone who enjoyed the movie. I knew the movie was based on the story, but was surprised how closely the film followed it. Almost all of the elements of the film - even the minor scenes - have some basis in the story.

calstars, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 01:52 (seven years ago) link

yep, I was surprised when I saw EWS, having read the book when I knew that SK was adapting it.

Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 01:55 (seven years ago) link

I have an edition squirreled away in a box somewhere of the novel + the screenplay. never got around to actually reading it unfortunately.

ryan, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 02:17 (seven years ago) link


Saw these chairs being delivered to the Masonic lodge in NYC this morning

calstars, Thursday, 2 May 2013 12:28 (seven years ago) link

Let me try this agajn

calstars, Thursday, 2 May 2013 12:30 (seven years ago) link

Oh fuck it

calstars, Thursday, 2 May 2013 12:30 (seven years ago) link

we can see this pics.

sheer tip (how's life), Thursday, 2 May 2013 12:51 (seven years ago) link

I've been in that lodge (not for an orgy).

Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 2 May 2013 15:23 (seven years ago) link

a likely story

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 2 May 2013 16:36 (seven years ago) link

ha, i've been in there too. for, um, a fashion show.

tylerw, Thursday, 2 May 2013 21:54 (seven years ago) link

likely story

akm, Thursday, 2 May 2013 22:01 (seven years ago) link

those chairs are perfect

Chris S, Thursday, 2 May 2013 22:06 (seven years ago) link

noting weird happened at the fashion show, look, here's a photo I took:
just another night in new york city, you know?

tylerw, Thursday, 2 May 2013 22:16 (seven years ago) link

six months pass...

well *i* still like it. so there.

piscesx, Tuesday, 19 November 2013 00:02 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

this puts it under the microscope


images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 01:56 (six years ago) link

five months pass...

A case for EWS (out 15 years ago yesterday) as SK's most personal film:

The final deep resonance regarding Eyes Wide Shut has to do with it being Stanley Kubrick’s last film. It was never intended to be a swan song. Fans of Kubrick would rather have had him sign off with AI or his long abandoned Napoleon, or maybe even his holocaust film Aryan Papers. But thinking deeply about Eyes Wide Shut, and feeling even more deeply about it, I believe that it may be as appropriate a final work for a filmmaker as A Prairie Home Companion was for Robert Altman and The Dead was for John Huston. I believe that this was Stanley Kubrick’s most personal film. The art on the Harfords’ apartment is mostly by Christiane Harlan Kubrick, and Alice is an artist; Nicole Kidman even kind of looks like Mrs. Kubrick. Kubrick’s father was a medical doctor, like Bill Harford. And as I implied earlier, there is a kind of concern for Helena, the Harfords’ daughter, who will grow up in a world where beautiful Barbie-doll women are sexualized, “get their brains fucked out,” and are then promptly discarded. Kubrick had three daughters, and there is an underlying concern of a father, quick to a civilization abounding with male privilege, for his daughter in the tapestry of this film.


son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 July 2014 19:54 (five years ago) link

I see that guy at screenings fairly often. Sky's the limit for him imo.

You are exactly why people root for the apes (Eric H.), Thursday, 17 July 2014 19:56 (five years ago) link

film criticism "sky" being what it is.

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 July 2014 21:23 (five years ago) link

Bearing in mind it's what he *wants* to do.

You are exactly why people root for the apes (Eric H.), Thursday, 17 July 2014 22:06 (five years ago) link

hmmmm anything he wants to do is OK with me


son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Friday, 18 July 2014 01:51 (five years ago) link


You are exactly why people root for the apes (Eric H.), Friday, 18 July 2014 04:59 (five years ago) link

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