Eyes Wide Shut

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BOC?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 25 June 2012 18:07 (eight years ago) link

I think he meant Blue Velvet, lol

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 25 June 2012 18:08 (eight years ago) link

I figured. You can't even blame that on autocorrect or predicative text!

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 25 June 2012 18:12 (eight years ago) link

no, i really did blue oyster cult, silly as that may sound. it's a big leap, i know, but i talked on one of the BOC threads about the appeal in their music of the occult secret that is promised but never fully revealed.

contenderizer, Monday, 25 June 2012 18:15 (eight years ago) link

did mean blue oyster cult

contenderizer, Monday, 25 June 2012 18:16 (eight years ago) link

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okay then, lol

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 25 June 2012 18:18 (eight years ago) link

what withholding of meaning? Married people need to fuck. The End.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 25 June 2012 18:23 (eight years ago) link

what i was trying to get at about BOC, in mortifyingly purple prose:

Where most popular art is concerned, the "intricate detail on the skull" draws you toward the doorway, but the curtains part rather easily, and what you find on the other side is a kind of fantastical ordinariness, the sublime rendered mundane. BÖC's great trick is that they never fully usher you through the doorway. Instead, they leave you to peer in from the threshhold so that you're always an awed initiate, always the seeker reaching towards the chamber but never the adept arriving there.

― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Sunday, February 19, 2012 3:03 PM (4 months ago)

contenderizer, Monday, 25 June 2012 18:27 (eight years ago) link

^ really need to go back and edit that kind of shit before i post it

contenderizer, Monday, 25 June 2012 18:27 (eight years ago) link

I like that post!

Married people need to fuck. The End.

that's kinda the "joke" that pulls the curtain back down, imo. cut to black, etc.

ryan, Monday, 25 June 2012 18:32 (eight years ago) link

not to say that i disagree! but that sorta belies the 2 and a half hours we just spent watching Dr. Bill's odyssey in a very intriguing way.

ryan, Monday, 25 June 2012 18:33 (eight years ago) link

watching that movie it was kind of hard to believe they were a married couple and i guess they did, too. i kind of want to see this movie with katie holmes or mimi rogers in it by comparison.

Philip Nunez, Monday, 25 June 2012 18:34 (eight years ago) link

why on earth would you remove the one big positive of this movie and replace it with Katie Holmes

Victory Chainsaw! (DJP), Monday, 25 June 2012 18:35 (eight years ago) link

would it be a fair trade if harvey keitel were reinstated?

Philip Nunez, Monday, 25 June 2012 18:43 (eight years ago) link

yeah katie holmes would make that unwatchable

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 25 June 2012 18:44 (eight years ago) link

I keep meaning to rewatch on DVD since they put out the European version here, without the digital 'Austin Powers' masking of the nudity.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 25 June 2012 19:00 (eight years ago) link

mike myers in the lead would be interesting. he could probably do "I'm in over my head" more convincingly than cruise.

Philip Nunez, Monday, 25 June 2012 19:13 (eight years ago) link

i should really see this again

funny-skrillex-bee_132455836669.gif (s1ocki), Monday, 25 June 2012 19:20 (eight years ago) link

wasn't steve martin originally who kubrick wanted for the lead? way back in the 80s iirc?

tylerw, Monday, 25 June 2012 19:50 (eight years ago) link

what was the deal with keitel? why do I remember something about someone cumming in kidman's hair? maybe that was my own dream.

akm, Monday, 25 June 2012 20:00 (eight years ago) link

it's apparently a myth, but a myth with explanatory power, like the anecdote about kubrick called up stephen king asking if he believed in god.

Philip Nunez, Monday, 25 June 2012 20:04 (eight years ago) link

This is showing in DC this summer for a Kubrick retrospective. Can't wait to see it on the big screen

Moreno, Monday, 25 June 2012 20:35 (eight years ago) link

havin a hard time not seeing bateman every time cruise pulls the charming face in this:

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa295/slugbert/gamerecognizegame.jpg

slugbuggy, Thursday, 28 June 2012 08:06 (eight years ago) link

masks!!!

slugbuggy, Thursday, 28 June 2012 08:11 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Obviously they are very different films, but I kept getting these weird "Eyes Wide Shut" vibes when I was watching Argento's "Inferno" the other day. Something about the set design, and Keith Emerson's piano score, and the general mood. Admittedly, it's been a while since I've seen "EWS."

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 12 July 2012 15:16 (seven years ago) link

three months pass...

Brief thoughts of Kidman:

People thought that making the film was the beginning of the end of my marriage -- but I don't really think it was. Tom and I were close then, and it was very much the three of us. Onscreen, the husband and wife are at odds, and Stanley wanted to use our marriage as a supposed reality. That was Stanley: He used the movie as provocation, pretending it was our sex life. Which we weren't oblivious to, but obviously it wasn't us. We both decided to dedicate ourselves to a great filmmaker and artist.

Stanley had to coax me into some of the sexuality in the film in the beginning, but we shot things that were a lot more extreme that didn't end up in the movie. I did feel safe -- I never felt it was exploitive or unintelligent. He was very different with women than he was with men. He has daughters, so he was very paternal with me.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/nicole-kidman-stanley-kubricks-lens-382186

crazy uncle in the attic (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 16:10 (seven years ago) link

Paternalism resulted in her best performance ever.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 16:18 (seven years ago) link

we shot things that were a lot more extreme that didn't end up in the movie

o_O

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 16:45 (seven years ago) link

I liked Slavoj Zizek's take, that a major theme of the film was that fantasy is destroyed the moment it's realized.

SongOfSam, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 16:55 (seven years ago) link

And all that's left after that is Christmas shopping.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 16:56 (seven years ago) link

fantasy is destroyed the moment that... OH JESUS THIS ISN'T WHAT I WANTED AT ALL

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 17:43 (seven years ago) link

eyes wide shut uh http://www.visual-memory.co.uk/amk/doc/0096.html

live or die merits of the button thread (wolves lacan), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 18:52 (seven years ago) link

great essay, especially for the phrase "the groans of critical blueballs"

anyone else see Room 237 yet/ are ppl talking on another thread abt it?

❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Thursday, 25 October 2012 05:00 (seven years ago) link

The Shining

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Thursday, 25 October 2012 05:04 (seven years ago) link

of course

❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Thursday, 25 October 2012 05:09 (seven years ago) link

just now:

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well done, ilx

slugbuggy, Thursday, 25 October 2012 07:19 (seven years ago) link

dunno why i was impressed w/ unremarkable coincidences. 237th post discussing the room 237 doc abt the shining while watching the south park episode parodying the shining. i r dumb that way.

at the same time that you were more dear to me than ever, i would have given everything -- everything -- for just one moment with him

― Surmounter, Tuesday, July 1, 2008 8:09 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this seems crucial somehow wrt the zizek piece, i think. dr. bill's odyssey isn't about the fulfillment of fantasy; he doesn't even have one of his own. he's just wandering around trying on what he thinks fantasy is supposed to look like. in the taxi scene where he's imagining alice with the naval officer, i think as much as he's haunted by hurt and jealousy towards his wife he's equally or more so envious of her having a fantasy that consuming and destructive.

slugbuggy, Friday, 26 October 2012 07:10 (seven years ago) link

i have to award points on the "destructive" part, tho, he did accomplished that much ok.

slugbuggy, Friday, 26 October 2012 07:18 (seven years ago) link

three months pass...

that's marvellous

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 10 February 2013 20:01 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

hey, the Village set doesn't make sense

http://www.scoutingny.com/?p=6434

Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 March 2013 16:30 (seven years ago) link

never noticed the walking in front of rear projection before!

turds (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 26 March 2013 17:44 (seven years ago) link

My humble take on it is that Kidman was at the party if not in person, in spirit. Consider:

- Opening shot of the film, where she drops her dress the same way as the masked women during the ritual

- The upsetting dream she has, which is close to the events that Cruise witnessed at the house

- The final line of the film, spoken by her, in repsonse to Cruise asking what they should do : "Fuck"

calstars, Thursday, 28 March 2013 02:35 (seven years ago) link

Also, striking use of red:

- Hallway as Cruise descends into the Sonata cafe

- Domino's front door

- Pool table that Pollack leans over towards the end of the film

calstars, Thursday, 28 March 2013 02:40 (seven years ago) link

Also the color of the robe of the master of ceremonies at the ritual

calstars, Thursday, 28 March 2013 02:40 (seven years ago) link

never noticed the walking in front of rear projection before!

― turds (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, March 26, 2013 5:44 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i totally noticed it but was never sure if it was meant to be noticed or not.

la noche de la vaca (latebloomer), Thursday, 28 March 2013 03:12 (seven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

'Dream Story' is a quick read for anyone who enjoyed the movie. I knew the movie was based on the story, but was surprised how closely the film followed it. Almost all of the elements of the film - even the minor scenes - have some basis in the story.

calstars, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 01:52 (seven years ago) link

yep, I was surprised when I saw EWS, having read the book when I knew that SK was adapting it.

Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 01:55 (seven years ago) link

I have an edition squirreled away in a box somewhere of the novel + the screenplay. never got around to actually reading it unfortunately.

ryan, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 02:17 (seven years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/8LD3XAC.jpg

Saw these chairs being delivered to the Masonic lodge in NYC this morning

calstars, Thursday, 2 May 2013 12:28 (seven years ago) link


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