rolling "Is This Racist?" thread

preposterous and awesome

zachlyon, are you incapable of understanding written English or did you just gloss over the big argument between pplains and me and do I need to point out again that telling the black dude how he should be responding to racism on the "is this racist?" thread is an interesting, drowning-in-irony choice

Point taken, but I'm still going to tell the black dude that he's way off on Family Guy.

lol

I would be sad if you didn't!

wait what

DJP i agree with everything you've said itt about the shoes and i don't think my post was directed @ any black dudes? just felt like it was worth reiterating that intent isn't the important thing here

is it just the difference between calling it racist and calling it fucked up, based on intent? was just saying that innocent intent doesn't excuse ignorance, not trying to compare it to the bottle opener or anything or add to that strain of the conversation at all. but i can see how it can be taken that way, so i'm sorry about that, wasn't my "INTEEEENT" to dispute your response.

DJP is "my favorite black man"

That post is already looking way too bad and I m still kind of tipsy. Shit.

LOVE YOU DAN

yeah DJP i didn't really understand why you went after zach there, didn't feel like he was telling you or anyone what to think

well maybe he shouldn't have started out his post with 'has everyone'

I just finished an argument with pplains where I said I was sure dude's intent wasn't racially motivated, which is why I think the shoes are not intentionally racist even though they present that way, so zach saying "how many times do we have to say intent doesn't matter, you should find this racist" sounded like a reiteration of pp's side of the argument to me

I apologize for the harsh reaction

My mistake, for the record, wasn't presuming that you should be offended, but presuming that you would be offended.

no need to apologize, i see it. i was sort of jumping over the convo there and responding to michael white et al saying that it wasn't offensive because scott wasn't trying to be offensive. i forgot that the guardian article at the beginning explicitly said that the implications were intentional.

My mistake, for the record, wasn't presuming that you should be offended, but presuming that you would be offended.

well really, the whole thought process that leads to someone making shackle shoes without thinking about what they'd look like on the target audience is one that makes me derisively laugh more than anything else

let's not forget the larger issue here -- jeremy scott makes really dumb clothes

i'm glad we're back to discussing things where the level of racism is actually up for debate, i guess?

oh me too, I promise I will do my best to stop being touchy because I don't want to squelch the conversation

There's a gong sound, chop suey font and more, but all the folks in this video seem in on it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1Ee3qJEVZQ

I'm hoping Dayo or Jimmy show up so we can tell them how they should feel about this.

are you sure that wasn't just compiled from vids already on yt

http://www.xxlmag.com/news/2012/06/phrenology-of-chief-keef/

...

wow, chief keef has the same amount of brain matter dedicated to pictures of birdman touching his chin as i do

are you sure that wasn't just compiled from vids already on yt

No, I'm not sure, now that you mention it. What a weird thing to compile, if that's the case.

wow, chief keef has the same amount of brain matter dedicated to pictures of birdman touching his chin as i do

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loooool

http://felkes.tumblr.com/post/23019812161/hello-you-might-know-me-as-lanina-from-werelist-i

holy

the list of animals most commonly identified w/ is disappointing

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5xt8pbagR1qg7xy3o1_500.png

isn't there anyone who identifies as a carp or something? non-mammalian therians have it hardest imo

i keep almost starting a thread about this kind of fringe identity stuff. otherkin, but more importantly "transracial"/"transethnic" and "transabled" ppl. i want to find more examples though. all sorts of dumb shit on tumblr/livejournal.

and yeah, no one ever ends up identifying as a non-cute/cool animal/pokemon

http://photo.goodreads.com/books/1182852800l/1339239.jpg

looks curious

yeah i found that link via this, which is a bit too outraged for my taste, since the righteousness drowns the lulz: http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/69900212.html

Methinks the lady doth protest too much etc.

Actually I'm really curious about this transabilism thing; there are actually people with such severe body dysmorphia that they seek to have healthy limbs amputated.

that ONTD was C+P'd from thought catalog, not really supposed to be funny (it is also the 1 in 50,000 thought catalog articles that doesn't belong in hell)

imo a trans woman of color can be as righteous and angry as she wants @ this bs

Well the idea of "transethnicity" is certainly troublesome. More fraught than Otherkin.

this is just white wolf fanfic, right?

black asian or hispanic wolf actually

Those last three things don't seem racist so much as people who have gone insane and take themselves way too seriously about it.

a lot of it belongs more in the "is this transphobic" thread tbh

and yeah there's nothing wrong with being an otherkin or whatever; the offensiveness comes from their co-opting the language from actually oppressed people and claiming their subculture is similarly oppressed. it's really common to hear them say a variation of "you wouldn't say that to a transgender person, would you?" in response to criticism.

zachlyon otm as far as i can see

idgi, isn't it just a metaphor for transphobia and maybe a safe space for exploring those ideas/feelings? i mean, there's no such thing as werewolves.

it's possible for people to explore their feelings and their hardships without appropriating the politics of people who are killed for theirs.

not to mention the fact that otherkin werewolves claiming trans immunity as a 'metaphor' are just gonna make it harder for the transgender people to be taken seriously and i just wish i never had to write this sentence

should say the rights of transgender people to be taken seriously ^

what does 'claiming trans immunity' mean?

using the idealogical arguments/points of the transgender discussion the a defense of a non-transgender identity as though it's all the same

*as a

transethnic?

transabled?

demisexual?

what the fuck did people even do with themselves before the internet.

'bate

Go away. Batin'.

I can relate because I think I'm a dog with sunglasses