Thread for coordinating the order and timing of ILM ballot polls

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yeah it's been too long since we had a poll with any disco in it

here's my lumber, so jack me maybe (some dude), Thursday, 21 June 2012 14:31 (eleven years ago) link

ding-dong-ding Ah-haa! poll it

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 21 June 2012 14:39 (eleven years ago) link

It's my last week till vacation, so I can start Neil Young whenever. My posting would be mostly at night until June 29, but it would just be the voting thread anyway. Let me know when you want me to go ahead.

clemenza, Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:47 (eleven years ago) link

It'd be nice to get something going. OK, executive decision -- switch F. Mac and N. Young. Clarke, carry on with house moving and don't worry about polling on top of other stuff. Clemenza, you may fire when ready.

Biff Wellington (WmC), Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link

*cues up Neil playlist*

a dense custard of infinity (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link

yippee

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:26 (eleven years ago) link

finally, the push I need to listen to Trans

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link

tbh I'm super-psyched for The Who (getting close!)

Pink Floyd feels so far away ;_;

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

Great, I'll get a thread up when I get home. Is it locked in that you use the standard scoring? I'd kind of like to do a Pazz & Jop variation, but I don't know if that starts to feel like work when you compile your ballot. If it does, I'll stick with the usual.

clemenza, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link

Dealer's choice. If you have a scoring method you want to use, go for it.

Biff Wellington (WmC), Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link

Can't remember if you've previously ruled on this, but will it include CSNY and Buffalo Springfield?

Biff Wellington (WmC), Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:55 (eleven years ago) link

it really should.

here's my lumber, so jack me maybe (some dude), Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:57 (eleven years ago) link

It'll include everything. Even Nicolette Larson.

clemenza, Thursday, 21 June 2012 22:10 (eleven years ago) link

i am super pumped about the neil young poll, clemenza!

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Thursday, 21 June 2012 22:11 (eleven years ago) link

teachers gonna flip the fuck out for neil young

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Thursday, 21 June 2012 22:15 (eleven years ago) link

uncle neil gonna get some love itt

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 21 June 2012 22:18 (eleven years ago) link

WmC, that was a great call... Thanks for the mercy bump. I was anticipating being able to start the Fleetwood Mac poll before the move actually happened, but with the timing of the Bee Gees poll it worked out to be really tough. Sorry for not jumping on this, but I will be a much better and more active poll-leader once I'm unpacked and somewhat settled. (And once I've found the Mac among the 28 boxes of LPs I just moved...)

Clarke B., Friday, 22 June 2012 16:29 (eleven years ago) link

No prob, have fun unpacking!

Biff Wellington (WmC), Friday, 22 June 2012 16:41 (eleven years ago) link

Pink Floyd feels so far away ;_;

Yah. I would like to run a Spacemen 3/Spiritualized/Spectrum/E.A.R./Darkside/Rugby drone-rock all-stars poll but it probably won't come up in the queue until 2016. On the other hand, the new Spectrum album may come out before then.

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 22 June 2012 17:55 (eleven years ago) link

Looove the idea of a SP3 and related poll... And I'd like to do an Iron Maiden one at some point down the line.

Clarke B., Friday, 22 June 2012 20:49 (eleven years ago) link

MAIDEN

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 22 June 2012 20:50 (eleven years ago) link

<3

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 22 June 2012 20:50 (eleven years ago) link

I'd been tempted to throw together a Stone Roses micropoll to celebrate their comeback gigs - but I hadn't realised they were only next weekend. Their discography is tiny though, and clemenza's deadline is quite far ahead, so it might just work.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 22 June 2012 21:07 (eleven years ago) link

would vote in S3 poll

a dense custard of infinity (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 22 June 2012 21:07 (eleven years ago) link

OK I'm in... Put me down for the Spacemen 3 & descendents poll.

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 22 June 2012 21:58 (eleven years ago) link

I predict "Bikeage" will win.

thread is p much urine (how's life), Friday, 22 June 2012 22:22 (eleven years ago) link

OK Elvis, #62 and S3 are yours. Will include in the next update.

Biff Wellington (WmC), Friday, 22 June 2012 23:26 (eleven years ago) link

Even though I'm quite nervous about my upcoming Cure poll and I've done no prep work for it at all - can I do a Radiohead poll?

nate woolls, Saturday, 23 June 2012 06:34 (eleven years ago) link

Any enthusiasm for a quickfire Stone Roses poll, or is this a silly idea? I'm thinking voting 'til Thursday, then a very short countdown on Friday before the big gig.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 23 June 2012 10:38 (eleven years ago) link

can I do a Radiohead poll?

I say 'yes'. I think I was down to do one, then let someone else take it over, and then they switched to another group/artist altogether and I ended up about twenty places further down the list with a PJ Harvey one.

Any enthusiasm for a quickfire Stone Roses poll, or is this a silly idea?

I'll vote if you do it. You might want to restrict people to just voting for their top 10 if you want people to vote without much thinking time.

Nessun Biscotto (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 23 June 2012 12:50 (eleven years ago) link

ballot poll seems a bit much for a band w/ 2 albums, wouldn't an automated poll thread work better?

some dude, Saturday, 23 June 2012 12:53 (eleven years ago) link

I can't help feeling we've had this discussion before

Nessun Biscotto (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 23 June 2012 12:54 (eleven years ago) link

The Best Stone Roses Single

some dude, Saturday, 23 June 2012 12:54 (eleven years ago) link

yeah guys w/ two albums getting a ballot poll is p silly. lets have nominations! oh look we nominated everything! lets have 20 vote ballots! oh you all voted for everything! fun!

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 23 June 2012 13:48 (eleven years ago) link

I'm not planning on clogging up people's time with this. It'd be seven-vote ballots, and the rundown would be a top ten only.

I'm curious to see how the ultrashort format plays, and it's just a throwaway for a special occasion anyway. If it doesn't work it doesn't work, no big deal.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 23 June 2012 14:58 (eleven years ago) link

are we still doing the overlapping method? this seems to be taking even more forever than i thought it would

k3vin k., Tuesday, 26 June 2012 23:25 (eleven years ago) link

should be a countdown every week imo.

Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 23:26 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, or every other week at least. People complain often about laboring over ballots (I've done it too), but in the end it's pretty easy to sit down and knock one out in less than an hour while listening to the artist's tracks. The thing I liked about these polls in the beginning was how off-the-cuff and fun they were. Now, everyone treats them like homework.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 23:30 (eleven years ago) link

I agree with that 100%. I understand that for some voters, these are a springboard to explore someone's entire catalog. Detached from everything else, that's a good thing. But to me, you don't need a poll for that--that can be done any time you want. For these polls, just make a list of whatever your favourites are already. Knock it off quickly. If you want to YouTube a a handful of old favourites you haven't heard in a while, great. If you can only make it to 10 songs, send in a list of 10. If the poll turns up a song you'd never before heard and absolutely would have voted for if you had, that's a good thing. You haven't let anyone down--least of all the Rolling Stones or Abba or James Brown.

clemenza, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 23:38 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, a lot of heavy discog research/listening makes it awfully close to work. It would be good when the results thread for an artist gets going, for the voting for the next poll to start. TBH, the Bee Gees poll with 2 pushed-back deadlines threw a wrench into everything, no offense intended toward Bee Gees fans. Clarke's house-moving was an unforeseen circumstance...but I think (hope) we can get going faster now.

Biff Wellington (WmC), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 23:46 (eleven years ago) link

after the pause in artist polls because of the board being down/year-end polls/the James Brown snafu/etc., we've had results for 10 different polls run in the space of a little over 4 months. i think every 2 weeks or so is a pretty good rate but i realize there are people who will just DIE if we don't run an Autechre poll in the next 12 months.

some dude, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 00:07 (eleven years ago) link

Ahem.

Moves Like Zappa (Leee), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 01:05 (eleven years ago) link

for some voters, these are a springboard to explore someone's entire catalog

See, I love this. I'll throw out a ballot in no time if I know the catalogue - I did Zep in twenty minutes while walking round the shops - but for a major artist I don't really know, exploring a catalogue I never otherwise would is totally what I get out of it. It's all about the discussion thread too, outside the top tens I don't much care about results.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 06:14 (eleven years ago) link

Saint Et soon come?

Now, I wonder which song I shall place newly at no 1, hmmm...

Mark G, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 06:27 (eleven years ago) link

We need a poll for the worst late 80s / early 90s graduation songs.
Nominees:

"Right Here, Right Now" Jesus Jones
"End of the Road" Boyz II Men
"These Are Days" 10,000 Maniacs
"It's So Hard to Say Goodbye to Yesterday" Boyz II Men

Any others?

Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 15:27 (eleven years ago) link

"We will always remember, oh god what was it?" The Beach Boys

Mark G, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 15:41 (eleven years ago) link

That was a Four Freshmen cover iirc

Lee626, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 15:50 (eleven years ago) link

"It's So Hard to Say Goodbye to Yesterday" Boyz II Men - only one i can stomach/enjoy in 2012

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 16:04 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah I like that song

can you believe they put a man otm (loves laboured breathing), Thursday, 28 June 2012 04:22 (eleven years ago) link

1. Pet Shop Boys - Billy Dods (finished)

2. Beatles - Mark G (finished)

3. Prince - Jamie_ATP (finished)

4. U2 - Ismael Klata (finished)

5. Beach Boys - iatee (finished)

6. Led Zeppelin - WmC (finished)

7. Timbaland - some dude (finished)

8. Guided By Voices - Johnny Fever (finished)

9. Stevie Wonder - Eric H. (finished)

10. "Producers" - Shakey Mo Collier (finished)

11. Pulp - Finefinemusic (finished)

12. James Brown - strongo/Shakey Mo Collier
 (finished)
13. Jacksons - Jamie_ATP
 (finished)
14. David Bowie - WmC (finished)
15. Paul Simon - Lamp
 (finished)
16. Rolling Stones - rogermexico (finished)

17. The Kinks - C. Grisso/McCain (finished)

18. Depeche Mode - crüt (finished)
19. Beastie Boys - Johnny Fever (finished)
20. ABBA - donna rouge (finished)
20B. Bee Gees - Shakey Mo Collier (finished)
21. Neil Young - clemenza (LAST COUPLE OF DAYS TO VOTE, I CAN FEEL IT GETTING DOWN TO THE WIRE)
22. Fleetwood Mac - Clarke B.
23. Kate Bush - Le Bateau Ivre
24. The Cure - nate woolls

25. The Who - Tarfumes the Escape Goat

26. Joni Mitchell - Mordy

27. The Neptunes - V79
28. Saint Etienne - Billy Dods

29. Kraftwerk - jon via chi

30. Hüsker Dü - Pleasant Plains

31. Bruce Springsteen - Jamie_ATP

32. Miles Davis - WmC

33. Velvet Underground solo careers - iatee

34. Madonna - or something

35. The Fall - Mark G

36. PJ Harvey - Nasty, Brutish & Short

37. Cocteau Twins - Le Bateau Ivre

38. New Order - Bee OK

39. Sonic Youth - ArchCarrier

40. Motown Singles - a hoy hoy

41. Stax - seandalai

42. Disco - Tuomas

43. Jay-Z - some dude

44. The Clash - Gukbe
45. R. Kelly - Spottie_Ottie_Dope
46. Tom Waits - chap
47. The "Classic Rock" Canon - Doctor Casino
48. Elvis Costello - kornrulez
49. Roxy Music/Bryan Ferry - charlie h
50. Pink Floyd - Elvis Telecom
51. Ween - WmC
52. Steely Dan - Bee OK
53. Bob Dylan - tipsy mothra
54. Sleater-Kinney + offshoots - C.Grisso/McCain
55. Replacements/Westerberg/et al - Johnny Fever
56. Outkast - The Reverend
57. US Indie Singles of the 1980s - NickB
58. Autechre - Leee
59. Brian Eno - WmC
60. Wire - Z S
61. Chic Organization - Donna Rouge
62. Spaceman 3 (& descendants) - Elvis Telecom
63. Radiohead - nate woolls

Neil Jung (WmC), Friday, 6 July 2012 16:52 (eleven years ago) link


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