Can - The Lost Tapes

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searching for my brother?

fit and working again, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 16:53 (eleven years ago) link

I got "searching for my brother" from a lyrics site, but was never sure.

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 16:57 (eleven years ago) link

something for my problem

Mark G, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 17:22 (eleven years ago) link

my bathroom problem

Lewis Apparition (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 17:26 (eleven years ago) link

is this cd only?

akm, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 17:27 (eleven years ago) link

At the moment, I have heard there are plans for an eventual vinyl release but I have not seen that in writing anywhere.

Trip Maker, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 17:46 (eleven years ago) link

There's a really interesting article in this month's 'Sound On Sound' magazine on The Lost Tapes.

MaresNest, Thursday, 21 June 2012 15:37 (eleven years ago) link

what's the breakdown between malcolm/damo/post-damo tracks?

Around 50/30/20

This box set is a HUGE boost for Malcolm Mooney. I love 'Can Delay 1968' , but most of disc 1 kills stuff on that album, some rivals 'Monster Movie'
Mooney's performance on "Bubble Rap" is the best I've heard him. And I've flown his flag since the 1990 Can reissues, when I first got into them.

ma ck ro ma ck ro (mackro mackro), Thursday, 21 June 2012 15:49 (eleven years ago) link

I love the Malcolm tracks in Unlimited Edition, too.

Trip Maker, Thursday, 21 June 2012 16:24 (eleven years ago) link

right, I always disliked Malcolm until I heard Unlimited Ed.

frogbs, Thursday, 21 June 2012 16:25 (eleven years ago) link

Huh. Unlimited Ed. was always a malcom debit for me. For me he shines best on Delay. And maybe some day my brain will forget 'Hoolah, Hoolah'.

BTW, speaking of Unlimited Edition. Did it always have that epic length track at the end or was that added for the remasters? I seriously don't remember it from the CD i owned way back when.

Lewis Apparition (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 21 June 2012 16:41 (eleven years ago) link

it was edited on the earlier cd?

fit and working again, Thursday, 21 June 2012 16:46 (eleven years ago) link

I don't know about Delay...both the "why must I beee the theeeef" and "froggeeee and toadeeee eeet the tangerine seeds, one by one" songs are really grating

frogbs, Thursday, 21 June 2012 17:05 (eleven years ago) link

"Father cannot yell", never bettered but then again who could?

Mark G, Thursday, 21 June 2012 17:17 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, I'm not the biggest Monster Movie fan but Father Cannot Yell is one of the 4 or 5 best things they ever recorded.

Lewis Apparition (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 21 June 2012 17:18 (eleven years ago) link

I don't know about Delay...both the "why must I beee the theeeef" and "froggeeee and toadeeee eeet the tangerine seeds, one by one" songs are really grating

Aw. "Thief" is amazing. "Little Star of Bethlehem" is great too if you imagine they're making fun of the Red Hot Chili Peppers 15 years before they formed.
Mooney is more grating and less dynamic & deliberate than Damo. And it takes more time to get into Mooney. But he's just as perfect for Can as Damo, just in entirely different ways. Mooney is more like Iggy, if Damo is Bowie - singing context only. (not a perfect analogy, I realize)

ma ck ro ma ck ro (mackro mackro), Thursday, 21 June 2012 17:53 (eleven years ago) link

I love the version of "Little Star" on Radio Waves, but I don't know if that's Mooney or Damo!

frogbs, Thursday, 21 June 2012 18:07 (eleven years ago) link

Little Star of Bethlehem is one of the best ever can songs. Waterlilies in the bath tub. He seems so lovable does Malcolm and the poor guy was on the verge of a nervous breakdown as a Can member. I thought Bubble Rap was a Damo track?

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Thursday, 21 June 2012 21:41 (eleven years ago) link

Little Star is kind of an oddity in the Can catalogue, as I actually can understand the lyrics

frogbs, Thursday, 21 June 2012 21:42 (eleven years ago) link

19th Century Man is another class Malcolm performance.

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Thursday, 21 June 2012 21:42 (eleven years ago) link

And maybe some day my brain will forget 'Hoolah, Hoolah'.

But it's so good. Love that album.

timellison, Friday, 22 June 2012 02:25 (eleven years ago) link

"Bubble Rap" is Damo. It's probably bcz I'm getting old, but I needed headphones to confirm that. His delivery is very Mooney-esque

ma ck ro ma ck ro (mackro mackro), Friday, 22 June 2012 07:21 (eleven years ago) link

right, I always disliked Malcolm until I heard Unlimited Ed.

Madness, Malcolm is awesome and that period of Can is their most consistent imo

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Friday, 22 June 2012 11:07 (eleven years ago) link

In terms of the outtakes yes but c'mon Suzuki all the way

frogbs, Friday, 22 June 2012 15:22 (eleven years ago) link

We've had this debate on here before. Early Can has far less noodling about and wayward experimentation - well far less released noodling about and wayward experimentation! That's all.

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Friday, 22 June 2012 15:24 (eleven years ago) link

Are you waiting for the streetcar?

cwkiii, Friday, 22 June 2012 15:24 (eleven years ago) link

I thought I was, but a naked man just ran past.

Anyways, the impression I get is that MMooney was more of a driving force in the early days ("The Can" being an americanism, for example), and that Damo was added to the mix while it was being made.

Mark G, Friday, 22 June 2012 15:26 (eleven years ago) link

Sounds right

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Friday, 22 June 2012 15:27 (eleven years ago) link

surprised by the musique concrete-style things on here.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 22 June 2012 16:51 (eleven years ago) link

I love the Malcolm tracks in Unlimited Edition, too.

― Trip Maker, Thursday, June 21, 2012 5:24 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^^^ fwiw. a few of their v best songs. i can't understand why the slimmer limited edition is the thing that's usually reissued.

psyched to hear people are into this. i heard a little and it was bizarre just to hear a song that started with the weird broth of can-sounding bass, karoli guitar whines, &c

blossom smulch (schlump), Friday, 22 June 2012 17:05 (eleven years ago) link

i didn't think limited edition had ever been reissued. unlimited replaced it in 1976.

fit and working again, Friday, 22 June 2012 17:23 (eleven years ago) link

was pretty sure i saw a bunch of new vinyl copies last time they did a batch of reissues. maybe i'm wrong though.

blossom smulch (schlump), Friday, 22 June 2012 17:44 (eleven years ago) link

fakeys.

Mark G, Friday, 22 June 2012 17:46 (eleven years ago) link

oh huh

blossom smulch (schlump), Friday, 22 June 2012 17:48 (eleven years ago) link

Mine just came in and I'm shocked at the sound quality; dunno if it's just years of d/ling shitty bootlegs or listening to the "official" Live Box and Radio Waves releases but I expected the quality to be terrible, especially as these recordings basically sat for forty years, but damn does this thing sound good, even though some of the avant garde junk on the first disc is pretty damn irritating (how much of this stuff did Can produce?)

frogbs, Monday, 25 June 2012 14:03 (eleven years ago) link

why did no one mention that there was basically a 12-minute version of "Vitamin C" on here, this is so damn great

frogbs, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 21:57 (eleven years ago) link

friendly neighbourhood whore - fabulous groove

nonightsweats, Thursday, 28 June 2012 08:06 (eleven years ago) link

and if that's not one for the 'out-of-context' thread...

Mark G, Thursday, 28 June 2012 08:24 (eleven years ago) link

there should be a "favorite moment in dead pigeon suite" poll

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Friday, 29 June 2012 15:06 (eleven years ago) link

well not really but there are so many to choose from

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Friday, 29 June 2012 15:06 (eleven years ago) link

its gotta be right when the music switches from the slow part to that insane groove

frogbs, Friday, 29 June 2012 15:11 (eleven years ago) link

which time!?

i like the early music arrangement of the first minute --> when the percussion comes in around 1:11 or so and then also that OOOOW somewhere in the middle

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Friday, 29 June 2012 15:12 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dDmmrpyVnk

the vitamin c segment is OUT OF CONTROL

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Friday, 29 June 2012 15:13 (eleven years ago) link

yeah the part where Damo kind of comes out of nowhere is my favorite

frogbs, Friday, 29 June 2012 15:14 (eleven years ago) link

My actual physical copy of this should be arriving at the record store today! I was a good person and bought it locally. Excited!

Also, LL being a Can fan makes me happy

mh, Friday, 29 June 2012 15:14 (eleven years ago) link

Lindsay Lohan?

Mark G, Friday, 29 June 2012 15:16 (eleven years ago) link

She knows all about the Can

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Friday, 29 June 2012 15:16 (eleven years ago) link

You should be excited! I waited (so chaste!) until I could listen to my very own copy and it was worth it. The book is fun too.

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Friday, 29 June 2012 15:18 (eleven years ago) link

Lene Lovich.

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Friday, 29 June 2012 15:19 (eleven years ago) link

Jamming this this morning and my 2 1/2 year-old was jumping around gleefully during "streetcar"... "WHAT IS HE SAYYYYYING?!!"

tylerw, Friday, 29 June 2012 15:19 (eleven years ago) link


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