Can - The Lost Tapes

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I like the live takes, but they don't add much to what was already out there. I kinda prefer the Peel Sessions. :O

dronestreet, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 14:33 (eleven years ago) link

I just plunked down for it.
Dead Pigeon Suite is awesome, seems like it was cut up and spread throughout Ege Bamyasi in different places.

Trip Maker, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 14:38 (eleven years ago) link

and never recognized anything past "Did anyone see the snowman..."

Is it "Did anyone see the snowman/walkin' with the Lord"? That's always been my suspicion.

how's life, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 14:45 (eleven years ago) link

man this fucking rules. better than i expected. a few songs are hard to listen to, i suppose, but that's to be expected.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 14:51 (eleven years ago) link

The Mooney tracks Streetcar and Midnight Sky are awesome. There is lot to love on here, damn that Pitchfork reviewer who said it could have been condensed into a single album.

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 16:11 (eleven years ago) link

Midnight Men and Graublau are stunning, this isn't mere archive material its Can!

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 16:16 (eleven years ago) link

yeahhh, graublau might be my fave thus far. i mean, yeah, sure they could've just put out a single disc of the highlights, but wtf, i want to hear it all.

tylerw, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 16:19 (eleven years ago) link

I can't look at pitchfork at all anymore. Editing this into a single disc release completely misses the whole point of this release imo.

Trip Maker, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 16:20 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, basically if jaki liebezeit is playing on it, it's worth hearing.

tylerw, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 16:21 (eleven years ago) link

i would've settled for a 40-disc set of all the tapes, thank you very much.

dronestreet, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 16:26 (eleven years ago) link

what's the breakdown between malcolm/damo/post-damo tracks?

fit and working again, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 16:46 (eleven years ago) link

What's the actual lyric for the bit in Halleluwah that I've always heard as 'something for my ba-athroom HALELULELULELULEWAH!'

Lewis Apparition (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 16:51 (eleven years ago) link

searching for my brother?

fit and working again, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 16:53 (eleven years ago) link

I got "searching for my brother" from a lyrics site, but was never sure.

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 16:57 (eleven years ago) link

something for my problem

Mark G, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 17:22 (eleven years ago) link

my bathroom problem

Lewis Apparition (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 17:26 (eleven years ago) link

is this cd only?

akm, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 17:27 (eleven years ago) link

At the moment, I have heard there are plans for an eventual vinyl release but I have not seen that in writing anywhere.

Trip Maker, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 17:46 (eleven years ago) link

There's a really interesting article in this month's 'Sound On Sound' magazine on The Lost Tapes.

MaresNest, Thursday, 21 June 2012 15:37 (eleven years ago) link

what's the breakdown between malcolm/damo/post-damo tracks?

Around 50/30/20

This box set is a HUGE boost for Malcolm Mooney. I love 'Can Delay 1968' , but most of disc 1 kills stuff on that album, some rivals 'Monster Movie'
Mooney's performance on "Bubble Rap" is the best I've heard him. And I've flown his flag since the 1990 Can reissues, when I first got into them.

ma ck ro ma ck ro (mackro mackro), Thursday, 21 June 2012 15:49 (eleven years ago) link

I love the Malcolm tracks in Unlimited Edition, too.

Trip Maker, Thursday, 21 June 2012 16:24 (eleven years ago) link

right, I always disliked Malcolm until I heard Unlimited Ed.

frogbs, Thursday, 21 June 2012 16:25 (eleven years ago) link

Huh. Unlimited Ed. was always a malcom debit for me. For me he shines best on Delay. And maybe some day my brain will forget 'Hoolah, Hoolah'.

BTW, speaking of Unlimited Edition. Did it always have that epic length track at the end or was that added for the remasters? I seriously don't remember it from the CD i owned way back when.

Lewis Apparition (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 21 June 2012 16:41 (eleven years ago) link

it was edited on the earlier cd?

fit and working again, Thursday, 21 June 2012 16:46 (eleven years ago) link

I don't know about Delay...both the "why must I beee the theeeef" and "froggeeee and toadeeee eeet the tangerine seeds, one by one" songs are really grating

frogbs, Thursday, 21 June 2012 17:05 (eleven years ago) link

"Father cannot yell", never bettered but then again who could?

Mark G, Thursday, 21 June 2012 17:17 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, I'm not the biggest Monster Movie fan but Father Cannot Yell is one of the 4 or 5 best things they ever recorded.

Lewis Apparition (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 21 June 2012 17:18 (eleven years ago) link

I don't know about Delay...both the "why must I beee the theeeef" and "froggeeee and toadeeee eeet the tangerine seeds, one by one" songs are really grating

Aw. "Thief" is amazing. "Little Star of Bethlehem" is great too if you imagine they're making fun of the Red Hot Chili Peppers 15 years before they formed.
Mooney is more grating and less dynamic & deliberate than Damo. And it takes more time to get into Mooney. But he's just as perfect for Can as Damo, just in entirely different ways. Mooney is more like Iggy, if Damo is Bowie - singing context only. (not a perfect analogy, I realize)

ma ck ro ma ck ro (mackro mackro), Thursday, 21 June 2012 17:53 (eleven years ago) link

I love the version of "Little Star" on Radio Waves, but I don't know if that's Mooney or Damo!

frogbs, Thursday, 21 June 2012 18:07 (eleven years ago) link

Little Star of Bethlehem is one of the best ever can songs. Waterlilies in the bath tub. He seems so lovable does Malcolm and the poor guy was on the verge of a nervous breakdown as a Can member. I thought Bubble Rap was a Damo track?

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Thursday, 21 June 2012 21:41 (eleven years ago) link

Little Star is kind of an oddity in the Can catalogue, as I actually can understand the lyrics

frogbs, Thursday, 21 June 2012 21:42 (eleven years ago) link

19th Century Man is another class Malcolm performance.

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Thursday, 21 June 2012 21:42 (eleven years ago) link

And maybe some day my brain will forget 'Hoolah, Hoolah'.

But it's so good. Love that album.

timellison, Friday, 22 June 2012 02:25 (eleven years ago) link

"Bubble Rap" is Damo. It's probably bcz I'm getting old, but I needed headphones to confirm that. His delivery is very Mooney-esque

ma ck ro ma ck ro (mackro mackro), Friday, 22 June 2012 07:21 (eleven years ago) link

right, I always disliked Malcolm until I heard Unlimited Ed.

Madness, Malcolm is awesome and that period of Can is their most consistent imo

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Friday, 22 June 2012 11:07 (eleven years ago) link

In terms of the outtakes yes but c'mon Suzuki all the way

frogbs, Friday, 22 June 2012 15:22 (eleven years ago) link

We've had this debate on here before. Early Can has far less noodling about and wayward experimentation - well far less released noodling about and wayward experimentation! That's all.

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Friday, 22 June 2012 15:24 (eleven years ago) link

Are you waiting for the streetcar?

cwkiii, Friday, 22 June 2012 15:24 (eleven years ago) link

I thought I was, but a naked man just ran past.

Anyways, the impression I get is that MMooney was more of a driving force in the early days ("The Can" being an americanism, for example), and that Damo was added to the mix while it was being made.

Mark G, Friday, 22 June 2012 15:26 (eleven years ago) link

Sounds right

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Friday, 22 June 2012 15:27 (eleven years ago) link

surprised by the musique concrete-style things on here.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 22 June 2012 16:51 (eleven years ago) link

I love the Malcolm tracks in Unlimited Edition, too.

― Trip Maker, Thursday, June 21, 2012 5:24 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^^^ fwiw. a few of their v best songs. i can't understand why the slimmer limited edition is the thing that's usually reissued.

psyched to hear people are into this. i heard a little and it was bizarre just to hear a song that started with the weird broth of can-sounding bass, karoli guitar whines, &c

blossom smulch (schlump), Friday, 22 June 2012 17:05 (eleven years ago) link

i didn't think limited edition had ever been reissued. unlimited replaced it in 1976.

fit and working again, Friday, 22 June 2012 17:23 (eleven years ago) link

was pretty sure i saw a bunch of new vinyl copies last time they did a batch of reissues. maybe i'm wrong though.

blossom smulch (schlump), Friday, 22 June 2012 17:44 (eleven years ago) link

fakeys.

Mark G, Friday, 22 June 2012 17:46 (eleven years ago) link

oh huh

blossom smulch (schlump), Friday, 22 June 2012 17:48 (eleven years ago) link

Mine just came in and I'm shocked at the sound quality; dunno if it's just years of d/ling shitty bootlegs or listening to the "official" Live Box and Radio Waves releases but I expected the quality to be terrible, especially as these recordings basically sat for forty years, but damn does this thing sound good, even though some of the avant garde junk on the first disc is pretty damn irritating (how much of this stuff did Can produce?)

frogbs, Monday, 25 June 2012 14:03 (eleven years ago) link

why did no one mention that there was basically a 12-minute version of "Vitamin C" on here, this is so damn great

frogbs, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 21:57 (eleven years ago) link

friendly neighbourhood whore - fabulous groove

nonightsweats, Thursday, 28 June 2012 08:06 (eleven years ago) link

and if that's not one for the 'out-of-context' thread...

Mark G, Thursday, 28 June 2012 08:24 (eleven years ago) link


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