Why is casual racism/sexism more accepted in video games than other forms of media (these days)?

I'd assume b/c ESDF would have your hand in the homerow position but that's the first I've heard of this particular thing

i take no position on it, as a lefty anyway
http://use-esdf.org/

ugh the comments on that kotaku piece...

The Kotaku piece made me fucking boiling mad, and I havent involved myself in the games feminism thing that much as I'm not a huge gamer. But faaark, the patronising attitude is coming out all over the place lately, every time a woman pipes up and says "guys you know what? This shit actually isn't cool" they end up with a barrage of "die you bitch whore" abuse.

My male gamer friends are astonished at the vitriol. And that makes me even sadder, that they would be suprised it exists.

Laura Hudson, the recently ex-editor of Comicsalliance, was excellent at publishing stories that explored questions of gender and sexism in comics, and her reward was a never ending tirade of sexist bullshit in the comments boxes. Comics and Video Games fandom just seem really regressive and repellent to me; not sure if they're actually any worse that other realms of fandom, but they make no effort - or lack the self-awareness to - mask it.

Also, ex-ilxor, as she was the original mod on ILG with me

I think part of it is that geek and nerd subculture is full of geeks and nerds i.e. people who have a gradient of ASD/socialization problems.

And the Internet is a great way to express unfiltered idiocy. Like sports talk radio.

i wouldn't blame nerddom -- puzzle-game geeks and archie comic nerds aren't spewing ugliness.

Probably because those are mainly women in those categories

they're still nerds!

Yeah, I'll take a random enthusiast over a random Xbox player any day.

Well, yeah, no question there, but I think that if you want an area where unsocialized obsessive dudes wind up, nerd culture has a far lower physical barrier to entry than say football

ASD/socialization problems no excuse for being a totally vile misogynist

even if that is the case

I don't know that it's fair to suggest the two overlap

yeah, there's enough problems without adding on mysogyny

Not excusing it, just saying I ain't surprised

I dont think the kind of gamers who abuse people in comments boxes or over their Gears of War headset are nerds, is the thing to be honest. They're jock bullies, just like they would be on the footy field or at a bar. Its just that playing video games isnt uncool anymore - esp games like GoW, Halo, GTA etc.

uh, yeah they are nerds.

unless "jocks" are really into leaving comments on kotaku articles on your planet.

Actually I know plenty of pretty unnerdy guys who play video games, is all im sayin. Unless 'uses a computer' is all that makes someone a nerd!?

as do i, but they wouldn't even know what kotaku is.

The internet has made me hate "nerds".

I love nerdy shit but I haaaaaatttte "nerd culture"

I dont think the kind of gamers who abuse people in comments boxes or over their Gears of War headset are nerds, is the thing to be honest. They're jock bullies, just like they would be on the footy field or at a bar. Its just that playing video games isnt uncool anymore - esp games like GoW, Halo, GTA etc.

― Pureed Moods (Trayce), Friday, June 22, 2012 10:44 PM (5 days ago) Bookmark

nah ime these would be bona fide nerds

I don't know why we have to classify people into buckets like "nerds" and "jocks", lots of people have jockish tendencies if they don't have to back up things that they or risk getting their ass kicked.

frogbs are you a nerd or a jock

start a poll thread

jock'cuse!

uhhh take one guess dayo

I think bro or brah is a far better and less 20th Century designation than jock.

In tech, some bemoan the rise of 'brogrammer' culture

Okay the thing that really made me lol in that article aside from "bro down and crush some code" was the reference to Kick-Ass Cupcakes, which the author obviously does not realize is the actual name of a Boston cupcake bakery.

it's like the darkside of the Ace of Cakes folks in their baltimore hideout

come to think of it, the rise of gendered portmanteaus is what makes me most violent of all

what, like "brodown" or "manscape"?

ARGH

dudecum

jock'cuse!

― Philip Nunez, Thursday, June 28, 2012 1:44 AM (4 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lmao

http://www.quartertothree.com/fp/2012/10/14/starcraft-e-sports-hits-the-big-time

http://thephoenix.com/Boston/recroom/145892-one-womans-battle-against-the-anxious-masculinity/

Wow. Great read.

ugh, why do the ppl i share this hobby with suck so much?

excellent read.

^^

that was a v inoffensive read

http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2012/11/01/halo_4_release_343_industries_bonnie_ross_and_kiki_wolfkill_decry_sexist.html

better ridiculously late then never

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sHp-iapqvo#!

not clicking