Simple Minds, classic or dud?

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Sons and Fascination is probably my favourite, so in my opinion YES THEY DO

Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Monday, 18 June 2012 16:46 (eleven years ago) link

One thing I love about those early Simple Minds albums is Derek Forbes' bass playing. Respect to him for jumping ship at the right time, though.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Monday, 18 June 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link

blasted I Travel on the way to work this morning

buzza, Monday, 18 June 2012 22:25 (eleven years ago) link

to follow up my earlier post : things do indeed get better.
this stuff is absolutely fantastic.
the 1st two albums i need to live with a little longer i think before the penny drops, whereas the rest of this boxset is superb.

mark e, Monday, 18 June 2012 22:31 (eleven years ago) link

I think the band themselves were disappointed by the way the first album turned out. Best thing on Real To Real Cacophony is Changeling.

Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Monday, 18 June 2012 22:53 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbvwKqotIAY

Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Monday, 18 June 2012 22:53 (eleven years ago) link

this fear of god : the missing link between shriekback and crackdown era cabaret voltaire.

mark e, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 10:23 (eleven years ago) link

good spot!

Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 10:31 (eleven years ago) link

so according to mojo article, derek was never supposed to be bass player, but due to his les paul getting half inched ended up doing the bass lines.

how f*cking lucky is that as i totally agree that his presence in the bands sound is a large factor as to why i have fallen hard for this stuff.

if this is the result then more guitarists need to be a victim of theft, and pick up the bass guitar.

(actually thats not that bad a piece of advise for 2012 .. )

mark e, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 17:31 (eleven years ago) link

Empires And Dance = Real To Real Cacophony > Sons And Fascination > Life In A Day > Sister Feelings Call

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 22:58 (eleven years ago) link

Nice to see the early Simple Minds stuff getting its due. There was a while there where I would only listen to Empires and Dance alone because I was tired for having to explain myself.

The recent box set is excellent and it's definitely nice to have those bonus tracks more widely available.

I have a question for those of you who bought the 2003 remastered CDs and the x5 box: how does the remastering differ between the two, if at all?

It's also got me eyeing that copy of Sparkle in the Rain at my local used CD place. It's one that I've never heard, writing it off years ago as something from the "new" (read: more produced) version of the band that I was not interested in.

Austin, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 02:47 (eleven years ago) link

three years pass...

EUROPE HAS A LANGUAGE PROBLEM!

Turrican, Friday, 11 December 2015 22:54 (eight years ago) link

Currently spinning Empires and Dance after not listening to it for a while, and once more wondering why 'I Travel' wasn't the huge smash hit that it deserved to be.

Turrican, Friday, 11 December 2015 22:55 (eight years ago) link

Where I come from I Travel was nauseatingly ubiquitous. It's cool though. Decades have passed.

everything, Friday, 11 December 2015 23:00 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

Holy cow, the X5 box is going for $75 and up. I guess print runs these days are miniscule.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 24 January 2016 02:36 (eight years ago) link

And even more on Amazon! Glad I picked it up.

Austin, Sunday, 24 January 2016 02:52 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

Listening to the 5x5 live album. I'm not a big live album guy but this is shockingly fun. Whoever's doing the bass lines is killing it. It's more guitar focused than the studio takes but it all sounds great and the song choices flow really well.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 20 August 2017 19:52 (six years ago) link

the bass player was some guy from danny wilson if you can remember them. can't be easy filling derek forbes shoes though

plp will eat itself (NickB), Sunday, 20 August 2017 21:19 (six years ago) link

It's an enjoyable album if you can overlook the fact that Jim sings songs like Factory and Calling Your Name like they were on Street Fighting Years

PaulTMA, Monday, 21 August 2017 14:36 (six years ago) link

love that bass guitar ZAP sound that occurs at the end of every (other?) measure during "seeing out the angel".. simple but badass..like getting electrocuted but funky

brimstead, Monday, 21 August 2017 23:38 (six years ago) link

simple minds, demigods of bass slappage and poppage

brimstead, Monday, 21 August 2017 23:39 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

So there's a new album, and there's a new promo photo.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPGfT72VQAIzOrV.jpg:large

This has garnered various reactions. A friend made an edit:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPGslppVoAALtpb.jpg:large

Ned Raggett, Monday, 20 November 2017 21:06 (six years ago) link

Oh yeah, this band are still going and didn't break up in 1984 like I often pretend they did.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Monday, 20 November 2017 21:11 (six years ago) link

rotten bastards - surely one of them could have helped jim up off the floor?

damian green is people (NickB), Monday, 20 November 2017 21:12 (six years ago) link

Charlie's not paid enough for that now.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 20 November 2017 21:13 (six years ago) link

after all jim's done for him too

damian green is people (NickB), Monday, 20 November 2017 21:14 (six years ago) link

four months pass...

You don’t seem to say much about the song itself (you know, musically)?

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 01:16 (six years ago) link

six months pass...

I saw the Simple Minds a few weeks ago. As alcoholic dementia is setting in I'll say it was a fine show (I have no capacity to evaluate quality of live performance for bands covering their own past glory). Worked well enough but I have been obsessed with Simple Minds videos since that night due to alcoholic dementia.

In particular I have been listening to "All the Things She Said, the first line of which I have been trying to parse and can only arrive at "Don't you look back on a bagel or swirl."

This AM I googled the lyrics and apparently it's "Don't you look back on a big lost world." I think that's fucking total BS. Listen to it clearly, he's saying "bagel."

Get fucked, LyricsDB.com

fields of salmon, Friday, 19 October 2018 00:56 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

From our local paper, seems like a nice guy:

The brother of the lead singer of Simple Minds has been jailed for nine years after a judge deemed he was a danger to the public after stalking two fans.

Paul Kerr, brother of rock star Jim Kerr, accused J0hn Fagan of rape and murder and threatened to sexually assault his wife Julie in what started out as an online spat over the Don’t You (Forget About Me) band’s latest album.

https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/18141149.simple-minds-jim-kerrs-brother-paul-kerr-jailed-nine-years-stalking-fans/

Death to (NickB), Monday, 13 January 2020 09:53 (four years ago) link

9 years is a long sentence. I was going to say that prison sentences in Scotland are usually a lot shorter than in England when I realized this trial was in England.

Frozen Mug (Tom D.), Monday, 13 January 2020 10:45 (four years ago) link

yeah it does sound p severe for an online argument, but his previous offences are a bit of a worry:

“I note that your previous convictions both arose out of seemingly innocuous business disputes, one which resulted in the victim’s home being set alight and the second in you breaking into the victim’s home and assaulting them with a weapon.

“I therefore find that you pose a significant risk to members of the public of serious harm occasioned by you.”

Death to (NickB), Monday, 13 January 2020 10:51 (four years ago) link

Are we sure he never played drums for the Housemartins?

Frozen Mug (Tom D.), Monday, 13 January 2020 11:47 (four years ago) link

haha

Death to (NickB), Monday, 13 January 2020 12:05 (four years ago) link

the Don’t You (Forget About Me) band

ouch

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 13 January 2020 15:39 (four years ago) link

fuck. reading the story the spark of the campaign of abuse was mr fagan replying to a facebook post by paul kerr saying the new simple minds album was "pure shit".

bidenfan69420 (jim in vancouver), Monday, 13 January 2020 17:11 (four years ago) link

it's a wonder any ILXors still have unburnt houses

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 13 January 2020 17:13 (four years ago) link

we don't live in houses -- unless you mean glass houses

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 January 2020 17:14 (four years ago) link

and all fagan actually wrote was:

"I’ve been a fan for more than 30 years and I think it’s a mistake to get rid of the two former band members."

bidenfan69420 (jim in vancouver), Monday, 13 January 2020 17:16 (four years ago) link

I’ve been a fan for more than 30 years

eh, one of the new fans then, he's got no right to criticize

Death to (NickB), Monday, 13 January 2020 17:20 (four years ago) link

haven't dug into this story myself - did anything actually happen outside of the online threats jim?

Death to (NickB), Monday, 13 January 2020 17:23 (four years ago) link

it was a real campaign of harassment, he had became totally obsessed with them, ended with him saying he was coming to their town with a baseball bat to attack them and then him getting arrested because he had emailed two police forces to the effect that he was going to kill them

bidenfan69420 (jim in vancouver), Monday, 13 January 2020 17:27 (four years ago) link

sweet christ

Death to (NickB), Monday, 13 January 2020 17:28 (four years ago) link

It looks as if Fagan was trolling Paul Kerr pretty hard on Facebook, now that I Google around a bit. Not that it merited being threatened and slandered as a pedophile, but it was hardly innocuous comments about the latest Simple Minds album:

https://www.brightonandhovenews.org/2019/10/18/simple-minds-singers-brother-was-also-targeted-on-facebook-jury-told/

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 13 January 2020 17:36 (four years ago) link

the plot thickens!

bidenfan69420 (jim in vancouver), Monday, 13 January 2020 17:41 (four years ago) link

facebook is making people crazy, wtf

Death to (NickB), Monday, 13 January 2020 17:43 (four years ago) link

Hate to think what would have happened had got started on the surfeit of bad acoustic, covers and live albums

PaulTMA, Monday, 13 January 2020 17:51 (four years ago) link

Live in the City of Light is classic tho

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 13 January 2020 17:53 (four years ago) link

You can take the boy out of Toryglen...

Frozen Mug (Tom D.), Monday, 13 January 2020 19:39 (four years ago) link

Judge Stephen Mooney asked: “How many mankinis does a man need?”

groovypanda, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 08:02 (four years ago) link


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