Pink Floyd - The Wall: Classic or Dud?

Message Bookmarked
Bookmark Removed
Not all messages are displayed: show all messages (281 of them)

I find Gary Yudman's slowed down MC delivery at the top of the second act greatly unsettling, especially when the band crash in mid-sentence.

MaresNest, Sunday, 17 June 2012 15:22 (eleven years ago) link

As a whole: dud. A track here, a track there: moments of classic.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 17 June 2012 15:40 (eleven years ago) link

two years pass...

Classic simply for "In the Flesh?" The rest of the album is a complete bore except for ABITW pt 2 and Run Like Hell. "In the Flesh?" is that good.

ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Monday, 10 November 2014 05:49 (nine years ago) link

"Comfortably Numb" is the best Floyd track ever so not really a bore

goth colouring book (anagram), Monday, 10 November 2014 05:54 (nine years ago) link

i could do without it.

ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Monday, 10 November 2014 06:08 (nine years ago) link

"One Of My Turns" though

Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Monday, 10 November 2014 14:08 (nine years ago) link

Hey You also wonderful. Mother also wonderful. Really most of the songs on this are great, whatever one thinks of the overall concept/story.

akm, Monday, 10 November 2014 15:57 (nine years ago) link

two years pass...

pink floyd rules

i have been listening to this a lot recently.it's kind of bewildering, though. i've listened to it all week while wandering a giant open park with my dog, listening closely to all these little parts that i never noticed before. or that i forgot, i guess. and listenening front to back, there are very few tedious moments. but just now, i thought "i know i'll propose a pick only five from this album" and quickly scanned through to identify my faves. and somehow, almost the entire album seemed to be made up of transitory connecting tracks that i wouldn't think to elevate to my prestigious top five. definitely one of those albums that's greater than the sum of its parts

Karl Malone, Friday, 1 September 2017 04:36 (six years ago) link

anyway, listening to it this week i thought i had a more interesting top 5, but i guess it's just

the wailing duel guitar/bass melody in the in the flesh's
goodbye blue sky
comfortably numb
mother
hey you

Karl Malone, Friday, 1 September 2017 04:41 (six years ago) link

(unranked)

Karl Malone, Friday, 1 September 2017 04:41 (six years ago) link

kinda otm

imo i enjoy it as whole ~thing~ and not so much individual tracks

though I dont listen to the album through that often these days

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 1 September 2017 05:14 (six years ago) link

Classic when you're a teenager and the record sounds more deep than it actually is.

Dud when you're an adult and you realise it's a double album of a successful multi-millionaire musician whingeing and you've heard 'Another Brick in the Wall (Part 2)' way too many times.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Friday, 1 September 2017 05:48 (six years ago) link

hmmm. here's how i wound up ranking the songs on the record. seems about right.

i was just listening to the asha bhosle version of "hey you" again. it's better than pink floyd's.

Comfortably Numb
Run Like Hell
Hey You
Another Brick In The Wall Part I
Mother
Outside the Wall
Goodbye Blue Sky
The Thin Ice
Nobody Home
Another Brick In The Wall Part II
In The Flesh?
One Of My Turns
Don't Leave Me Now
The Show Must Go One
The Happiest Days Of Our Lives
Vera
Bring The Boys Back Home
Empty Spaces
Another Brick In The Wall Part III
The Trial
Goodbye Cruel World
Is There Anybody Out There?
Young Lust
In The Flesh
Stop
Waiting for the Worms

The Saga of Rodney Stooksbury (rushomancy), Friday, 1 September 2017 13:32 (six years ago) link

"Is There Anybody Out There?" gets extra points as a standard for guitar beginners.

dinnerboat, Friday, 1 September 2017 14:27 (six years ago) link

The Wall is just Preservation Act 2 without any of the restraint or fun

PaulTMA, Friday, 1 September 2017 14:48 (six years ago) link

Animals was the last "true" Floyd album.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Friday, 1 September 2017 15:41 (six years ago) link

i found LP 2 of this in a free records pile so it's the one i've heard the most. side four i usually skip as its a bit grotesque and pompous. when the big brass band starts up i usually look for another record to play.

i really love side three. "Nobody Home" is maybe my favorite song. i feel like the lyrics were a big influence on the Flaming Lips. also the song feels very similar to Neil Young's "Motion Pictures". the songs share similar chord structures and lyrical themes. disillusioned rockers gazing through a tv, cataloging the things surrounding them, searching for the post-hippie dream in the cynical self-help 70s.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 1 September 2017 21:40 (six years ago) link

"Vera" is really great too. side three rules.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 1 September 2017 21:44 (six years ago) link

Was looking at Spotify and last.fm - why is Hey You such a popular song? Definitely one of the better Wall songs - i.e. it had Gilmour vocals - but not quite sure why it has become a top ten Floyd jamb

PaulTMA, Friday, 1 September 2017 21:46 (six years ago) link

I feel like I've been hearing it a lot on Ottawa classic rock radio for close to three decades at this point. Is it not a staple elsewhere?

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 1 September 2017 21:49 (six years ago) link

the world is secretly obsessed with the squid and the whale

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-81GUZH0hY

Karl Malone, Friday, 1 September 2017 21:51 (six years ago) link

xpost I had no idea it was popular on radio anywhere. I remember when it appeared on Pulse and Echoes and thinking it was an unusual choice. Guess I didn't know shit

PaulTMA, Friday, 1 September 2017 21:53 (six years ago) link

Ha, I'd forgotten which song he played.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 1 September 2017 21:55 (six years ago) link

xp

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 1 September 2017 21:55 (six years ago) link

i had forgotten the song and also the movie, so the difficulty of the google search was at least 9 out of 10! (i finally found it when i added "talent show" to the list of words that MUST appear)

Karl Malone, Friday, 1 September 2017 21:57 (six years ago) link

Turrican OTM

This was one of my first tapes as a young one and yeah it pretty much summed up my world at that time

Week of Wonders (Ross), Friday, 1 September 2017 22:04 (six years ago) link

totally hyperbolic question (and not just irrelevant but ridiculous to people who don't care about such things) but what concept album tells a more profound story than the wall? "waiting for the worms" predicted trump (celebrity as mental fascist asshole leader as 'syd meets hitler') better than like sf sorrow or tommy prepped us for the current nightmare

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 1 September 2017 22:21 (six years ago) link

good morning the worm your honor, the c(r)(l)own will plainly show the prisoner, who now stands before you, was caught red-handed colluding with russia, colluding with russia, because he's $100s of millions in debt. this will not do. call the special counselor!

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 1 September 2017 22:26 (six years ago) link

would you like to make america great again, my friend? all you need to do is purchase this red hat

MA-GA MA-GA MA-GA STOP! i wanna go home, take off this dumb hair weave and leave the show. but i'm waiting in bernie madoff's cell because they have to know (have to know have to know) that i've been putin's all this time (have to know have to know have to know . . . )

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 1 September 2017 22:51 (six years ago) link

ok well if it wasn't ruined for me as an adult before, it sure is now lol

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 1 September 2017 22:58 (six years ago) link

Hey you, out there on your throne
Tweeting naked on your phone
Would you resign?
Hey you, with you ear against "The Wall"
Waiting for some Mexican to throw over a bail of weed
Would you resign?
Hey you, would you pardon Julian Assange for Roger Stoooooooooooo-one?
Open your heart, J-Kush owes $1 billion yo

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 1 September 2017 23:11 (six years ago) link

When I was 13 I thought The Wall was the greatest, profoundest album or statement made by anyone. By 18 I felt it was largely shite. Is it an album that people really stick with?

PaulTMA, Friday, 1 September 2017 23:18 (six years ago) link

;_;

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 1 September 2017 23:20 (six years ago) link

(whispers) yes

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 1 September 2017 23:21 (six years ago) link

Agree with Gilmour when he said (in the BBC doc) adopting his best Tim-nice-but-dim voice that is was a 'bit of a whinge'

However the iconography is all-time and the free transparent sticker resided on my bedroom window for many years.

MaresNest, Friday, 1 September 2017 23:26 (six years ago) link

this album is lyrically more sophisticated than anything lou reed or johnny rotten threw together, but let's pretend otherwise, because reasons

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 1 September 2017 23:28 (six years ago) link

tell me, is something eluding you, sunshine?

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 1 September 2017 23:32 (six years ago) link

Is it an album that people really stick with?

it contains the comfortably numb solos, so yes

mookieproof, Saturday, 2 September 2017 00:27 (six years ago) link

to feel the warm thrill of collusion

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 2 September 2017 00:51 (six years ago) link

i'm glad somebody is still carrying the torch for filk, i thought the kids today had all gone nerdcore

that "squid and the whale" bit is sampled on dertbeats' "west side of the moon". it's a damn fine beat tape, although he gets better beats out of "remember a day" than anything from "the wall".

The Saga of Rodney Stooksbury (rushomancy), Saturday, 2 September 2017 02:43 (six years ago) link

four months pass...
two years pass...

If I was to do a top 5 from this album, it would probably be (in album order):

Goodbye Blue Sky
Hey You
Comfortably Numb
In The Flesh
The Trial

I think my favorite part of the album "Goodbye Blue Sky" through "Don't Leave Me Now", with the fascist freak-out close behind

DJP, Tuesday, 28 April 2020 20:36 (three years ago) link

prob haven't listened to this record since i was 17, but boy did i love it and the movie when i was 17

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 28 April 2020 21:13 (three years ago) link

goodbye blue sky is definitely the one. run like hell would be in my top five

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 28 April 2020 21:13 (three years ago) link

i think i was 17 when i first heard this one too, but it never hit me as hard as animals or dark side. i heard young lust for years on the radio before i ever played the wall in full, and i was shocked that it was a floyd song.

sleight return (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 28 April 2020 21:27 (three years ago) link

I like DJP’s list. I’d replace In The Flesh with The Thin Ice, and The Trial with Mother.

Joey Corona (Euler), Tuesday, 28 April 2020 22:12 (three years ago) link

Goodbye Blue Sky
In the Flesh
Hey You
Comfortably Numb
Mother

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 28 April 2020 22:45 (three years ago) link

Always intrigued me that they left the best song off the album (wiki says it was cut by "the other members on the grounds of being too personal"):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9b9UhFe6Eg

It features 2x in the film, oddly.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 28 April 2020 23:06 (three years ago) link

just play the comfortably numb solos for 80 minutes, really

mookieproof, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 00:55 (three years ago) link

For me, one of the problems with The Wall (and Animals, too) is that you can't hear the drugs any more. Pink Floyd started as overt psychedelia, and even if they evolved over time, that intriguing cosmic, space-rock spirit still carried through as late as Wish You Were Here.

Melomane, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 10:55 (three years ago) link


You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.