I HATE APPLE

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Most 'help' desks seem to be the same.

They have a script they won't deviate from, and they're happy to give/force you into trying anything to get you off the line, even if you've tried it before, so that when you call back (when, not if) you speak to someone else.

These are just as bad:

PC World
Pipex Internet
BT Business Dial Up
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mei (mei), Thursday, 21 July 2005 10:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Apple premier business support is fucking fantastic, through in two rings, knowledgable, helpful people at the other end. I have no experience of their consumer support, but if their queue at the 'genius bar' is anything to go by, it's probably not up to much.

Ed (dali), Thursday, 21 July 2005 10:19 (eighteen years ago) link

You mention Indian call centres. I think they're doing harm to understanding between the west and India.

90% of my contact with Indian people is now them lying about their name as they parrot an unhelpful script at me, and it's usually when I'm annoyed to start with cos some equipment or process has gone wrong!

mei (mei), Thursday, 21 July 2005 10:27 (eighteen years ago) link

I've never talked to an Indian when I called Apple and they didn't use a troubleshooting tree. I explained the symptoms (kind of technical) and they were very helpful.

OLD SPICEĀ® CHEMTRAILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (ex machina), Thursday, 21 July 2005 14:58 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
you know the biggest issue with ipod tech support is that you fucking stupid americans arrent able to even reset the thing without help. fucking idiots, lol. gotta love that american faggit shit, man i talk to you fucks all day and about every 6 call is good, the female caller is able to follow easy steps, much more than you american fucking idiot maledick heads.
you are the dumbest fucking idiots on the planet, period.
FUCK EMERICA!

Silas Althor, Tuesday, 23 August 2005 03:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Aren't you sweet! Y'know, there's a thread about call centre jobs (and their general suckiness) which would be much more appropriate for an outburst such as this.
Would you like some help using the search function?

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 03:58 (eighteen years ago) link

maledick head!! emerican!!

jimmy glass (electricsound), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 04:00 (eighteen years ago) link

The number of people unable to figure that shit out without resorting to asking ILX leads me to agree with the Brit upthread.

I'm Hi, Jared Fogle (ex machina), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 04:16 (eighteen years ago) link

the best callers are racial underdogs, man indian, british, aussie, black, white fucking orange users can manipulte the ipod better than you fucking dumb ameticans.how fucking hard is it for you fucks to use a product, i mean the manual/ online knowledege base provides all you need, but alas i have to deal with you clowns and manually updating your ipod, fuck is it even possible to be as fucking dumb as america is, damn you are the most fucking retarted bunch on the planet, and yes your fucking children and college are calling about reseting their ipods, and yes they need to be guided to do it, well it says alot for tomorrows doc's and professionals, just goes to show emerica is all about guns, drugs, lies and dumb fucking ass holes too spoiled to see the other side of their white bitch fucking moms, and overpaid american dads, i hope the world blows you all to fuck, i hate you america, as does the rest of the fucking world, you deserve to die. now, oh wait bush has got you dieing already, so im happy, dumb fucks, get a clue and realize you are destroying the planet, non keoto fucking agreening nazis, you are NAZI's with a 51 starred flag, fuck you bitches, if you knew how much the world hates you you would pull the trigger yourself. bye bye .

silas althor, Tuesday, 23 August 2005 05:10 (eighteen years ago) link

when call centre employees attack!!!

jimmy glass (electricsound), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 05:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Silas, where are you from?

I'm Hi, Jared Fogle (ex machina), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 05:26 (eighteen years ago) link

I agree with Silas. Deep down you do too.

LeCoq (LeCoq), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 05:29 (eighteen years ago) link

you know its not just emerica you are killing, it's the whole planet, you know, the thing we only have one of EARTH, so i figure those Taliban fucks have some sense, i mean damn even NATO can not convince you, fuck if I was NATO you would be taken out, replaced and educated, maby even educated before anything else. Then replaced because there is no place in the future world for you narrow minded fucks, none. Period, carry on OSAMA.

silas althor, Tuesday, 23 August 2005 05:32 (eighteen years ago) link

silas is from Trollville, NZ.

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 05:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Apparently, the United States has performed extraordinary renditions on all the English teachers in Silas' home country.

I'm Hi, Jared Fogle (ex machina), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 05:41 (eighteen years ago) link

England is where English is from, none of this north american bull shit, although the Canadians deserve to use the language, but america, man fuck america.

silas althor, Tuesday, 23 August 2005 05:46 (eighteen years ago) link

wow Trollville, what a fucking great come back from someone bearing the name of Tu-Pac Shakur, you fucking ass clown either learn some disses or stop using that name, id murder you im frestyle, not to mention PAC would have you killed, fucking American. Stop trying to be gangster and just be what you were born to be, consumerist shit not worth the cum on your mom's knickers. fucking basterd, the next emerican i meet will have to answer for alot, like all the racism they have dealt out over the years. Oh yea, by the way I am white, and I still fucking hate you, its colour not color you lazy fucks, man no wonder the whole world wants you to fucking die, you are lazy, fat as fuck, and arrogant as ever, God FUCKING bless the UNITED STATES of EMBARRASMENT. God bless. AND go fuck yourself too, "might" I add. Canada rocks.

Silas Althor, Tuesday, 23 August 2005 06:07 (eighteen years ago) link

We are not too lazy to use proper punctuation and grammar.

I'm Hi, Jared Fogle (ex machina), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 06:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Thermo's "name" is not quite "Tu-Pac Shakur", nor is he quite American.

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 06:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Don't call it a comeback!
And I take after the chopra part of my name more than the tupac portion, eh?

xpost - (shhh)

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 06:25 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.mackron.com/random/oschrist.jpg

donut gon' nut (donut), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 06:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Welcome to OSX

Operation System Christ.

I bless you.

donut gon' nut (donut), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 06:29 (eighteen years ago) link

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I'm Hi, Jared Fogle (ex machina), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 06:43 (eighteen years ago) link

What a little ranting cutie Silas is! Say - lets find his IP, and report him to the Apple call centre he obviously works for, showing them the logs of this page, I'm *sure* his manager will promote him promptly ;D

(Psst by the way Silas - mind explaining to me how Aussies are "racial underdogs"? I must confess, I am confused.)

Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 08:25 (eighteen years ago) link

When I cglanced through Silas' post, and this being a computer thread,I though he was talking about Pacman.

mei (mei), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 09:05 (eighteen years ago) link

The Ipod manual is actually missing some pretty important stuff. For instance, the unhappy Ipod face which means "this Ipod is FUCKED" isn't even in the fucking manual. I had to google to find out what to do about it. That's quite a big oversight IMO.

Also, Itunes is a pile of shite. Such a pain in the arse. Why isn't there a way to update your library without having to go and add all the folders again manually?? Why can't you add a folder to a playlist instead of having to drag all the songs in individually? I end up making playlists in Winamp, saving them as m3u files and importing them to Itunes.

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 09:29 (eighteen years ago) link

The apple support site actually has a lot of advice on it, though. It's just that when you've spent hours following all of it and none of it works, then you know you're fucked, but you still have to call in just to make sure.

The thing I hate is looking up every possible fix for my ipod online so that I don't call tech support until I've done everything, and then spending hours being put through the steps of things I've already done that didn't help. And then being told, "hmm, dunno what your problem is, go buy a faster usb card" even though it worked with the slow usb port until a couple weeks ago! so now i have to go spend more money to prove that something actually is wrong with the superexpensive ipod itself.

This is the second one that's bombed on me in a year; when I sent the first one in for repair, they sent me a new one. That's lovely as long as I have a warranty but the second two years is up I'm going to have to go looking for a new mp3 player. So has anyone found one that lasts longer than six months?

Maria (Maria), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 13:42 (eighteen years ago) link

my first iPod lasted 18 months or so: it only stopped working because i made the mistake of introducing it to a stone floor at high speed.

my second is two years old and still works beautifully. so, er: "yes, the iPod" would answer your question :)

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 13:44 (eighteen years ago) link

so how have i wrecked *two* in a year? the worst that happens to them is that they bounce up and down a bit when i'm running or they move around inside a bag, which i think are pretty standard types of wear (unless you're actually supposed to keep them immobile on flat surfaces at all times).

Maria (Maria), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 13:47 (eighteen years ago) link

but, um, the people i talked to on the phone were very nice. they just didn't know what the problem was.

Maria (Maria), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 13:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Also, Itunes is a pile of shite. Such a pain in the arse. Why isn't there a way to update your library without having to go and add all the folders again manually?? Why can't you add a folder to a playlist instead of having to drag all the songs in individually?

It works for me! on my MAC@!! :D

I'm Hi, Jared Fogle (ex machina), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 13:51 (eighteen years ago) link

i thought this thread was for rants! i dont work for apple, my roommate does and i have to listen to his rants, sorry guys.

silas althor, Tuesday, 23 August 2005 13:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Also!!

Apple website was broken when I was trying to get my fucked Ipod (which arrived that way in the mail) replaced and it wouldn't set up an account to register the Ipod to, and the phone operators needed my account details before they would do anything.

In the end I wrote a bitchy email, and to their credit they did get it sorted pretty quickly.

Re Itunes,

I figured Mac users would have it better. It's so stupid, you can add folders to your Library, but not to Playlists. So if you have a folder with, e.g. your fave hardcore punk songs, that you want to put on your Ipod, you'd have to add the folder to the Library and then go through the Library searching for each song individually by artist! WTF!! Unless I go through and retag each song and change the album to "Fave punk songs" or something.

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 14:33 (eighteen years ago) link

they bounce up and down a bit when i'm running

[sniggers like a six-year-old at juvenile out-of-context fnarr-ness; composes self]

see, being very old-fashioned and paranoid [1], i've never run with my iPod. indeed, i bought a Shuffle expressly for the gym. i kind-of figured that jogging about with a small and delicate hard disk wasn't a good idea.

but then everyone else in the world seems to exercise with their iPod, so ... i'm sure i'm just overly paranoid.

i also bought some of this after i broke the first one. i heartily recommend it.

[1] although stupid enough to let my drunk friends fuck about with my powerbook at 6am on monday. gaaah. i came so close to losing you, by beloved.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 14:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Can you open the folder and select all files, and then drag it to the list.

Unless I go through and retag each song and change the album to "Fave punk songs" or something.
This is the insane shit PC users do that makes me mental.

I'm Hi, Jared Fogle (ex machina), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 14:48 (eighteen years ago) link

No, that's the thing, you can't add songs to Playlists from explorer, only from the Library. So you can't select files. You CAN import playlists from Winamp, so I just do that, but I shouldn't have to!

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 14:51 (eighteen years ago) link

uh. the problem is with your understanding of how iTunes works. If you want to add a folder of your fav. punk tunes, simply use the Add To Library function, select the folder and click Add. Then sort your library by date added and all the songs you just added will be at the top. Select and drag them over to the iPod. It's really easy. Rather than get mad at the program and the platform in general, learn how to use it properly.

biz, Tuesday, 23 August 2005 15:47 (eighteen years ago) link

I know a lot of people who run with ipods, so I didn't think that would be a problem. I've thought of getting a shuffle, but if my regular ipod won't work I don't feel inclined to throw another hundred dollars at a similar product. (I spent my summer interning at a nonprofit and I'm about to spend a few hundred on textbooks...don't have lots of cash to throw around right now. That's kind of why I'm so pissed off at the "buy a $30-50 piece of computer equipment, because it might help and it can't hurt.")

Maria (Maria), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 15:58 (eighteen years ago) link

i thought this thread was for rants! i dont work for apple, my roommate does and i have to listen to his rants, sorry guys.

http://home.egge.net/~savory/wolfschf.jpg

donut gon' nut (donut), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 16:23 (eighteen years ago) link

i run 5 days a week with my shuffle and have done for about 8 months now. never had one problem. my 40G iPod was a bit trickier to run with though.

biz, Tuesday, 23 August 2005 17:08 (eighteen years ago) link

the first time i used isync it erased every contact in my phone and replaced it with old, out of date numbers that are in my computer. :(

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 22:24 (eighteen years ago) link

id murder you im frestyle

best chest-thump ever

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 23:59 (eighteen years ago) link

I wanted to love Apple. I was so impressed with them after I dropped my ipod on the pavement and then ran over it on my bike at 20 mph and it remained completely functional.

I'd heard good reviews from my friends and was tired of the constant crashing of Windows XP, so I finally broke down and bought an iMac. It arrived today, and my whole family gathered around to watch me open it. My mother and father--who hate Apple, although they don't really know why, and had fought me tooth and nail to buy another Dell-- actually oohed and ahhed and as I extracted the sleek, self-contained desktop from the box.

Setup took less than a minute, and I was so excited to start it up it felt like fucking Christmas. Of course, something went wrong. No matter how many times I rebooted it, all the screen displayed (in truth, all it would ever display) was an error message in four languages on a dull grey screen.

I spent several hours on the line with a condescending Applecare representative who mumbled constantly and in one instance told me which key to hold down by pronouncing the sound of the letter rather than its name (note: "ssssssss" does not really carry well over the phone), and then berated me for misinterpreting his instructions. After zeroing the hard drive and reinstalling twice, he finally concluded that my brand spanking new computer was totally fucked. I'm moving to Brooklyn in less than 7 days, and come Monday I'll have to ship it back to Apple and pray the new one arrives before the moving van.

It is a such cocktease, sitting there on my desk, taunting me with its terrible, inoperable beauty. I hate you, Apple.

Laura H. (laurah), Sunday, 28 August 2005 02:40 (eighteen years ago) link

I tried to use the Tiger disks that came with my Powerbook to install Tiger on the lively Emma B's 2002 iBook, but it won't install, because it's a different model of machine, despite the fact that every previous installer has always worked on any machine, and this is clearly an artificial roadblock designed to get me, or her, to buy a shrinkwrapped $130 copy of an operating system that I already own. I hate you, Apple.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 28 August 2005 06:56 (eighteen years ago) link

There's this thing called Bit Torrent...

the food has a top snake of 1 (ex machina), Sunday, 28 August 2005 06:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Laura, you might be better off waiting until you're in Brooklyn and visiting the NYC Apple store. Apple has a 14-day DOA warranty where they'll replace your computer with one out of Apple Store stock (if it isn't customized) on the spot.

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Sunday, 28 August 2005 07:08 (eighteen years ago) link

I need to switch my files over before I move, which I won't be able to do afterwards because I'm sharing one power cord with my father between our two Dell laptops.

They had better be able to rush the new iMac.

Laura H. (laurah), Sunday, 28 August 2005 07:14 (eighteen years ago) link

i was sorta annoyed at how slow this new powerbook was running compared to my old thinkpad until i realized it was doing everything on like 1/6th the RAM.

vahid (vahid), Sunday, 28 August 2005 07:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Mine flies with 768 megs of RAM.

I am looking forward to buying a Mac Mini so I can get rid of mp3 stuff on this one.

the food has a top snake of 1 (ex machina), Sunday, 28 August 2005 17:30 (eighteen years ago) link

three months pass...
can't get it out of network boot mode at startup

can't seem to reset PRAM (no idea why it won't do it).

would like to smash it with a hammer, and might even have to suffer the expense and final humiliation of getting someone to look at it JUST SO I CAN REINSTALL OSX & THEN SELL IT.

Mac 'problems' are SO MUCH more intractable than Windows it's not even funny.

Going to bed at maximum pissed off.

fandango (fandango), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 01:27 (eighteen years ago) link


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