wau he creamed that
― the route is ban (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 01:45 (eleven years ago) link
Tonight brings his batting average for the year up to .307, he's 15 for 37 in June so far.
― I DIED, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 02:30 (eleven years ago) link
he is for real
meanwhile i have a west coast correspondent wondering aloud whether mike trout is the best player in the game.
i don't know whether to cry or wind my watch
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 02:41 (eleven years ago) link
Trout is amazing tbh
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 03:47 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah these guys are incredible. Feel a little bad for Trout. Under normal circumstances people would be talking about his season constantly, but with Harper doing this @ 19 (and being Harper) it almost feels like Trout's amazingness is being under-hyped.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 13:18 (eleven years ago) link
totally OTM, but Harper is hitting .307/.390/.553 which is like, Ryan Braun/Joey Votto type numbers. I'm guessing he'll regress this year but I really don't feel like anything's out of the realm of possibility by the time he turns 23 (in 2016!!!)
― frogbs, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 13:43 (eleven years ago) link
that said, Trout is hitting even better this year (.345/.406/.552) and I think Trout vs. Harper is a legitimate debate. But what Harper's doing at 19 is pretty much unprecedented and he has all the hype behind him so of course he's the more interesting story.
(unrelated note: Stephen Strasburg is hitting .350/.381/.650, making him 7th on his team in batting WAR even though he's only gotten 21 plate appearances)
― frogbs, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 13:46 (eleven years ago) link
harper is def getting more mainstream press but stathead/roto/sabr ppl are prob being more over the moon re: trout right now
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 13:48 (eleven years ago) link
well yeah the nats offense is garbage, no idea how they're winning games with the morse-desmond-espinosa-ankiel gauntlet of doom in the back half of the lineup
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 13:50 (eleven years ago) link
trout also is an incredibly good base stealer and plays premium defense in CF. harper has the flashy power but if trout keeps hitting decently he's going to be the one at the top of the WAR charts
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 13:53 (eleven years ago) link
"That's a clown question, bro."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzbhjzsyvGk
― Grusin' Gang (Andy K), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 14:08 (eleven years ago) link
Nats pitching has still been incredible
― frogbs, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 14:13 (eleven years ago) link
he *should* have a beer.
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 14:17 (eleven years ago) link
Thread title reminds me that Harper used to be a catcher. Seems like the transition from catcher to CF is kinda rare but maybe more frequent amongst 18 year olds..
― johnathan lee riche$ (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 14:46 (eleven years ago) link
I forget, what was the impetus for his transition away from catcher? Just to reduce the chances of his knees exploding when he's 28 or something?
― Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 15:23 (eleven years ago) link
yeah lower injury risk plus it gets his bat in the lineup 160 games instead of 120 or whatever
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 15:28 (eleven years ago) link
he's a RF not a CF. it's not that rare to go from catcher to corner position
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 15:29 (eleven years ago) link
did Dale Murphy go from C to CF then a corner?
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 15:31 (eleven years ago) link
i think... did Werth start of as a C?
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 15:31 (eleven years ago) link
"I forget, what was the impetus for his transition away from catcher? Just to reduce the chances of his knees exploding when he's 28 or something?"
General consensus was that it would take Harper a lot longer to get to the majors if he stayed at catcher and it was entirely possible that he wouldn't have been able to stay at the position anyways plus the injury risk and the fact that the bat would play anywhere is why the Nats immediately moved him to the outfield.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 15:49 (eleven years ago) link
for injury risk, Nats catcher is like Spinal Tap drummer
― I DIED, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 16:17 (eleven years ago) link
Trout is getting a fair amount of attention. Sports Illustrated had a piece (online only, maybe) arguing for his superiority so far over Harper, and, on a smaller scale, so did SweetSpot.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/web/COM1199527/index.htmhttp://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/25469/mike-trout-greatest-20-year-old-ever
― clemenza, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:12 (eleven years ago) link
The SweetSpot piece actually doesn't mention Harper.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:16 (eleven years ago) link
Here is the list of players since 1871 who had 400 or more plate appearances and an OPS+ above 145 in their age 20 season or earlier:
??? it's not showing the list of players for me
― the route is ban (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:53 (eleven years ago) link
Rank Player OPS+1 Ty Cobb 1672 Mel Ott 1653 Al Kaline 1624 Mickey Mantle 1625 Alex Rodriguez 1616 Ted Williams 1607 Rogers Hornsby 1508 Jimmie Foxx 148
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/cliff_corcoran/06/06/mike.trout.angels/index.html#ixzz1xhphYERA
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link
I want to discount all the 'Harper's doing it at 19, Trout is 20!' but I guess maybe that year does make a legit difference when you look at others' performance at 19 vs 20 (like A-Rod).
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link
That list really is amazing. No borderlines, no Hall of the Very Goods, etc. Kaline's the worst ("worst") player on there...
― clemenza, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link
yeah...
― the route is ban (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:56 (eleven years ago) link
"I want to discount all the 'Harper's doing it at 19, Trout is 20!' but I guess maybe that year does make a legit difference when you look at others' performance at 19 vs 20 (like A-Rod)."
Okay maybe you can discount the age thing, but you can't entirely discount the fact that last year Trout was 19 and completely struggling at the MLB level in ~130 plate appearances. A guy coming in at 19 years old and completely dominating in his first contact with MLB pitching is basically once a generation talent+.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 23:22 (eleven years ago) link
http://dailycaller.com/2012/06/15/bryce-harper-conservative-hero/
― polyphonic, Friday, 15 June 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link
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― Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Friday, 15 June 2012 19:28 (eleven years ago) link
since that has literally nothing to do with baseball (even if it was written by Joe Judge's grandson), can you put crap like it in one of the hundred or so "conservative zoo animal" threads in the future?
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Friday, 15 June 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link
it's really funny, how you just c/p some phrases over and over
― frogbs, Friday, 15 June 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link
plz, I replaced cable with mlb.tv in an election year for a reason.
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Friday, 15 June 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link
oh man, burned by frogbs
what else could go wrong
― Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Friday, 15 June 2012 19:37 (eleven years ago) link
since that has literally nothing to do with baseball
actually, it concerns professional baseball player Bryce Harper, surprised you missed that part
― polyphonic, Friday, 15 June 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link
watching Bryce Harper play is like listening to Dr Morbius complain
― that's a clown question, bro (I DIED), Friday, 15 June 2012 20:05 (eleven years ago) link
in other Bryce Harper news I am v happy to have scored tickets to tonight's game, going with my dad as an early father's day present!
― that's a clown question, bro (I DIED), Friday, 15 June 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link
5ks
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 16 June 2012 21:09 (eleven years ago) link
no poly, some asshole just decided to use Bryce Harper as a Trojan Horse for some Klanspew.
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 17 June 2012 02:10 (eleven years ago) link
Whereas Luke Scott just does it all on his own.
― polyphonic, Sunday, 17 June 2012 06:52 (eleven years ago) link
yesss
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/post/harry-reid-uses-thats-a-clown-question-bro/2012/06/19/gJQAdEeSoV_blog.html
― I DIED, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 21:04 (eleven years ago) link
i have been waiting for a bro to ask me a clown question but it hasn't happened yet!! :(
― of family bonds and individual triumph. Narrated by Tim Allen, (zachlyon), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 21:37 (eleven years ago) link
How to Get Him Out Every Time
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=17384
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 12:05 (eleven years ago) link
@AdamKilgoreWPTV guy: "What's on your iPod?" Harper: "What do you like to listen to?" TV guy: "I like Vampire Weekend." Harper: "That's weird." Gold.
― Andy K, Monday, 9 July 2012 22:08 (eleven years ago) link
all-star quote machine
― I DIED, Monday, 9 July 2012 22:15 (eleven years ago) link
Gotta say, I'm starting to think this isn't the worst guy in baseball.
― Neil Jung (WmC), Monday, 9 July 2012 23:38 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, I like him.
― polyphonic, Monday, 9 July 2012 23:45 (eleven years ago) link
I still hate him
― van smack, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 00:55 (eleven years ago) link
Harper just, uh, clowned Kevin Millar. On Millar's highlights: "That's TERRIBLE. Is he like 46?"
― Andy K, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 22:49 (eleven years ago) link