Oh Mr Amazon, with this cheap box set / bargain item, etc...

So, I went for The Byrds box, despite myself.

― Mark G, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 09:21 (1 month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

so did i today.

not picked up anything by the byrds before, and rather than cherry picking decided that at this price/deal, no point in umm and arr'ing and got the lot.

so far i'm well chuffed.

like the ELO boxset the sound is brilliant as the discs are the most recent remasters with extra tracks etc.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0075LTOR2/ref=s9_simh_gw_p15_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=center-3&pf_rd_r=0QMGFXM2HYPQVNG95GAK&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=317819927&pf_rd_i=468294

another month, another cheap boxset.
heavyweight cardboard covers + 2 cds of extras (remixes/singles/b-sides etc) all for £55
the remastering is amazing.
makes me glad i never picked up any of the individual albums

Most of these are even better deals for US people -- that Roxy Music one is $81, which would be... 51 pounds?

its clearly a new direction after the recent overpriced deluxe boxsets that the labels are now exploring.
this year alone i have got the byrds, elo, simple minds, neil young, bruce springsteen, roxy music catalogues.
if they had done them up a la pink floyd, beatles et al, then i would never have bothered.
in fact i do wonder if emi will re-release the floyd material in a more slimmed down/budget style.
i much prefer this simple approach of just the albums in a nice box like they have with kraftwerk.

Miles Davis: 20 Classic Albums, 10 CDs for 14 quid:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Miles-Davis-Classic-Albums-10CD/dp/B004UVCOZ4

The Real Bob Dylan, 3CDs for a fiver:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Real-Bob-Dylan/dp/B0096YP8G2

Some of the out-of-copyright things released by those Real Gone people look amazing - I'm excited by the thought of the Ernest Tubb and Stanley Brothers ones, and would be by the George Jones and Faron young ones if I didn't have big chunks of those already.

If I was in the market for jazz I'd be hoovering up tons of those - the Coltrane Prestige one looks insanely good value.

xpost

Dubious abt the Miles box - it's all the out-of-copyright stuff (some of it v early and not absolutely terrific) and has been digitally remastered (from what source?) Obv it's still a tremendous bargain, but you can get the legit releases, often w/ gd bonus tracks and sleevenotes, for next to nothing these days, anyway.

Coltrane Prestige one looks insanely good value

A lot of those recs are p routine hard bop albs, tbh.

I agree with that up to a point, Ward, though some of these at <£1 per LP, are even closer to nothing than next-to-nothing.

You'd assume they were mastered from previous CD reissues, right? I mean, given that the company making them will be cutting every possible cost as far as they can, that would be the cheapest way of doing it.

xpost - I'm not the man to discuss the quality of Coltrane records, really, having been off The Jazz for may years now, but when I was interested in Coltrane the hard bop stuff was the stuff I liked best. I realise what a disgusting savage that makes me, but sometimes you just have to live with these things.

I'm with Tim, actually; Prestige-era Coltrane is a hell of a lot more fun to listen to than furrowed-brow, voice-of-God-through-the-horn Impulse!-era Coltrane.

The Real Bob Dylan, 3CDs for a fiver:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Real-Bob-Dylan/dp/B0096YP8G2

That's ... crazy! Not 'out-of-copyright' stuff, but Sony/CBS

I mean, I have enough Dylan, so won't be. But, still..

I think Amazon credits you with a £1 music download when you spend that £5 too.

There's a lot of artists in the CBS "The real..." series, and they are often in HMV's "Two for £10" offer. There's a Johnny Cash set which compiles 6 of his early 60s LPs, a Miles Davis that includes 5 late 50s / early 60s LPs, the Dylan one is slightly different as it's a good overview of his career rather than a compilation of existing albums. There are similar sets for RCA acts too, I picked up a 3 CD Elvis set which concentrated on his 50s output for £3 in Sainsburys last year.

Any notable classical boxes worth buying on the cheap?

Almost certainly. What periods/composers are you interested in?

Interested in anything baroque or impressionist.

The huge Debussy Edition released by DG/Universal not long ago is full of good stuff, very good choices taken from the DG/Decca/Philips catalogues.

Last year's giant EMI box of Delius is a great deal too.

On the 'impressionist' tip.

Harmonia Mundi UK is flogging this great box for a mere 15 quids: http://www.amazon.co.uk/La-Musique-Lumières-Music-Enlightenment/dp/B005BZBY1I/

Includes the full recording of Rene Jacobs' great Figaro amongst others.

I make knowing these box bargains my business. Craftily watching the listings on various sites has netted me the incredible Scarlatti Scott Ross box for 30 notes or so amongst other deals. A very good tool for this is the excellently-named pricenoia.com

Oh and that Debussy Edition Jon mentioned really is worth every penny.

If you need to be sold on the Mozart (which was 30 quid retail on its own when released): http://www.therestisnoise.com/2004/09/figaro_netrebko.html

Sorry to geek out over pricing but the Debussy is now 32 quids on Amazon UK - cheapest I've ever seen it.

Thanks for the tip, I ordered the Debussy comp. Love everything by him that I've heard, and that's a ridiculous price.

Tuomas, you should post your thoughts on one of the classical threads as you work your way through it!

I dunno, coming from a dance/electronic music background, I don't think I'm well versed to talk about classical music. I only own a handful of classical records, and I've only seen a few concerts (plus a few operas)... All I know is that I've really liked every Debussy recording I've heard; to me, there's something airy and beautifully simple in that stuff that I've not heard in earlier, more "complex" and frilly classical music I heard (which I do also appreciate, but not probably enough to get buy an 18 CD box set).

Heard, heard, heard, I should find new words!

http://www.amazon.com/The-Debussy-Edition-Claude-Achille/dp/B00742LLKU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1359673052&sr=8-1&keywords=debussy+box

Hope this is the same. Just ordered it! Thanks for the tip.

the so called "classic" 10cc albums ..

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Classic-Album-Selection-Ten-Cc/dp/B009GWHUS8/ref=sr_1_3?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1359675088&sr=1-3

brilliant stuff ..

xpost yes that's the same set.

Pretty excited!

all i want is a killing joke boxset ...
is that really too much to ask for ...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Classic-Albums-Dances-Night-Boxed/dp/B0093LKOGM/

;-)

not good enough.

want a nice boxset with all the classic emi/virgin era albums in replica cardboard sleeves a la elo/byrds/simple minds etc ..

its surely only a matter of time ..

Thanks for the heads-up on the enlightenment box CtC - seems insanely good value + is just the sort of thing I feel like I want to spend some time with now, find out something new.

This Stravinsky box is definitely worth a look: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Works-Igor-Stravinsky/dp/B000PTYUQG/

Anyway, I thought we were all meant to be boycotting Amazon.

Why?

In Britain, a lot of anger lately over their tax-dodging:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/dec/03/amazon-google-starbucks-tax-avoidance

Plus the usual more general issues - squeeze on smaller merchants, emerging monopoly, bad terms offered to affiliates, publishers, authors etc

Not worth trying the "we" thing here.

Tax issues may be one reason to feel slightly peeved at Amazon (I don't myself but understand why others might) but the rest of it appears to be the usual denial routine.

None of the "smaller merchants" will admit to themselves that they are rubbish; it makes them feel better to bleat about an "emerging monopoly" rather than get off their backsides and restructure their business and their attitude (the latter especially important) so that they can offer decent competition to Amazon, rather than waiting for someone to come and drop a succession of fifty-quid notes through their front door.

i'm all for crushing capitalists of any size but i think economies of scale might make it not v. straightforward to "compete" with hulking sales behemoths? i dunno, economics is shit to me

xp Not sure how those smaller merchants are supposed to compete with the combination of Amazon's relentless squeezing of suppliers and shall we say "favourable" tax arrangements. I think it's perfectly legitimate to expect a more level playing field, and Amazon are becoming a monopoly provider if not de jure then certainly de facto. How would you suggest small providers "restructure their businesses" to be able to compete in these circumstances? Redundancies all round?

The book industry should maybe look at what happened to HMV and how all the indie record shops in London have survived, which seems a complete inversion of the David/Goliath competition set-up. Doing it on an unequal playing field is possible, even if sometimes you have to wait for Goliath to trip up.

I would say that small providers need to stop being lazy and complacent, learn about running a business and stop regarding their little independent shop as a display of their own collection.

The EMI Mahler box is pretty good. The complete works on 16 CDs for only £18, all good recordings and conducted by Klemperer, Rattle, Barbirolli etc. Packaging is minimal but attractive nonetheless:

www.amazon.co.uk/Gustav-Mahler-Complete-Works-Anniversary/dp/B003D0ZNWY/

woof: You are very welcome and I'm sure you will enjoy it.

xxp Can you provide examples of this complacency? Or is it just a question of Amazon's prices being consistently lower? Because if it's the latter then there are structural reasons for this that can't simply be blamed on laziness or complacency.

oh wow if i had £18 that i wasnae going to waste on rum :\

I have lots of sympathy for small record stores, but in here Internet distribution had sadly already done its damage before I even started ordering stuff from Amazon. Most of the records I order from there are the sort of stuff no record store in Helsinki has sold in years, so I feel no guilt over that. The local and more obscure stuff I still get from local stores, as well as used records.

Another Mahler bargain on Amazon is the Tennstedt box. 16 CDs for 16 squids as of right now and rumoured to be one of the best cycles.

Here it is: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Klaus-Tennstedt-Complete-Mahler-Recordings/dp/B004OGDW4M/

fuggit i am treating myself to the Mahler next payday if it's still that price. also it will be good to give a shoeing to lazy complacent independent retailers.

stickin' it to that lazy old man

they should get on their bikes and look for customers

Noted independent record store devotee Norman Tebbit

Amazon UK currently seem to be offering import copies of The Avant-Garde series box set for £20? Says it will take about a month to arrive, but at that price I can wait.

Knew it had to be too good to be true:

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ugh Paul, that's weird because it actually espatches from Amazon US. but if you look up the item on the US website, it's $195(!)

anyway, seemed rude not to order it, thanks WF!

Yes thanks WF. This is available in my local independent for £90. I’ll spend the money there on other stuff I’m sure.

that's weird because it actually espatches from Amazon US

I noticed that, too. I was going to order two! I may have it shipped to a friend over there. Even if it then costs them $30 to mail it to me, I'd still be saving a lot. Very tempted.

Awesome, thank you thank you thank you Detective Lucerne! By the way when I was searching for this the fucking Rolling Stones new album kept appearing at the top of the search, wtf's up with that?

Not to kill anyone's buzz, but a few people on the h0ffman boards have reported going for that £20 deal and receiving something completely different in the post, normally an album called Between Here & Lost by Love and Death. The box set seems to be scarce already – it was listed as available on the DG webstore the other day, but has now gone out of stock again. I would advise interested parties to snap it up wherever they see it.

haha oh shit

Interesting anagram, when I searched for this box set earlier today on Amazon US, the second result was that Love and Death album, but the attached photo was of this box set.

I'm still an Avant-garde Box Set half full kind of punter, but apologies if I've steered ppl the wrong way. At least we will be able to start an authoritative thread on Between Here & Lost by Love and Death.

well worth the gamble i think, and easy to get a refund if it is the wrong thing

love and death are christian metal btw, but they also do a devo cover on that album...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPS-IlxHOQs

I'm just hoping I don't end up with the new Rolling Stones album.

Ah, looks like it got fixed. Or sold out...

My order for the Avant Garde boxset ordered on October 20th is due to show up by Thursday. It hasn't been dispatched yet though, which makes me wonder if I will get one. Any lucky receivers?

Exactly the same for me. Due to arrive on Thursday, not yet despatched.

Ditto. Given up on it tbh.

We've been done up like a kipper, lads.

Just had an email from Amazon telling me my Avant Garde box set has been dispatched and is due to arrive Jan 5th.

... wow, I'll go and check my order.

... "We'll e-mail you when available."

... ffs

UPS delivered my parcel early, while I was down south for Christmas, so yesterday I had to collect it from a newsagent in Govan. My heart sank when I saw the packing note - Between Here & Lost (10th Anniversary Edition) Love And Death Audio CD - then rose when I saw the yellow Deutsche Grammophon logo peeking out - success! A mint condition Avantgarde series box set still in its shrink-wrap. I savoured the unseemly elation of a really good score - and hope others who ordered experience the same.

Didn't know this until I read the sleeve notes: "Three Stockhausen albums, which were part of the original Avantgarde series, have not been included in this edition as we respect the preference of the Stockhausen estate to abstain from such re-release." Huh, what a rip-off :-)

Fuckin' Stockhausen estate

I bought a house in the Stockhausen estate

Amazon have emailed me to say they've cancelled the order. Cnuts.

Ach, me too though tbh I could do with the money right now

I could do with the Avant Garde box set right now.

Sorry to hear this. I can only think I got my order in slightly ahead of yours - or was lucky enough to land a sympathetic picking+packing elf.

I was thankfully able to order it when sales were first announced last fall

Me too, ordered it as soon as it was announced and had no problems receiving it.

Yes well done but you weren’t trying to get it for twenty quid on Amazon

Bingo