GIRLS talk (the Lena Dunham thread)

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ep 2 was the best of the season by a lot imo
these last 2 eps have been bad
i think id prefer if it cared less abt character arcs & had less thru-plotlines

― johnny crunch, Monday, June 11, 2012 9:24 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I usually don't do this but I'm gonna have to drop a "rong" on this

Didn't like the first 2 eps much tbh, and this last one was just OK. Rest has been good-to-great.

eh im willing to concede it's more on me y i didnt like them but..

the rich dude freak out was really cloying
adam's street art apology thing @ the end was so rank

adam's getting the mayo was maybe a high pt in the latest ep cuz they let it be a subtle thing!

something about the editing & pacing of the roommate argument scene reminded me of this

http://cinema1544.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/allen-skeleton.jpg

"Adam getting the mayo from the fridge and saying not to disturbe him for ten minutes"

And the mayo still being on Hannah's nightstand when he was doing pushups!

I kind of hated the opening scene with the girl getting the book published. Something rlly backbitingly ugh, ny publishing, about the whole thing. Makes me never want to live in ny. So catty and gross

this episode felt a little schematic to me in terms of hannah, marnie and jessa all having classic twentysomething time to grow up moments, but the show is at least right about those moments. also exchange between hannah and jerky guy about the triviality of her work was note-perfect.

also christopher moltisanti!!!

slim leg! (gesture) slim leg! (gesture)

I kind of hated the opening scene with the girl getting the book published. Something rlly backbitingly ugh, ny publishing, about the whole thing. Makes me never want to live in ny. So catty and gross

― littledotheyknow (D-40), Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:40 AM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i don't know; the part about being unable to help being a wench to someone whose professional success you envy rang true, not just to ny publishing. at least hannah copped to it later in the episode.

thought this ep was a bit too transparently setting up conflicts to be resolved in the finale, not that it was poorly executed but imo it lacked lighter moments & felt a bit rushed or heavy

i feel like one of the things dunham is interested in is anatomizing "cattiness."

xp yeah there were definitely less laughs than average in this episode

my fav part of the episode was jessa's intrigue at weed dad's wife's description of her dreams in which she murders and eats her

slim leg! (gesture) slim leg! (gesture)

― horseshoe, Tuesday, June 12, 2012 12:10 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I LOVE THAT GUY SO MUCH

he is a genius of getting under my skin. loved his trite monologue of worthy subjects for writing, culminating in death of course.

ya that was amazing

have had a version of that conversation with a dude, more than once

I know this probably goes without saying but I think it's so important and amazing and brave of LD for showing herself as she is in nude scenes. Every single time that happens I'm surprised and hankful for her for doing this. In an ideal world that wouldn't be so remarkable but it is and it's awesome.

x-post - I still haven't watched TF but I know he's in it a lot and I should really get on that because he cracks me up in every scene he's in.

may have yelled at my tv during that scene

"racial profiling" THE FUCK DO YOU KNOW ABOUT IT, ASSHOLE

lena dunham's use of her body on this show and in tiny furniture is an amazing thing

Even if I didn't love this show for a whole host of other reasons it would still be important for that alone imo.

lol that you associate this with ny, it's publishing

totally
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lol that you associate this with ny, it's publishing

― “Argh!” I cry. But I really don’t care. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:35 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ny is where publishing is bro

chicago is where bad weather is but i don't say i would never go chicago because i associate it with okay never mind

i thought this was a good ep fwiw, i just found myself grossed out at the entire thing, and the way the boyfriend's suicide was turned into a punchline, like i 'get' the idea of disliking someone you're envious of in anything but the show def treated her target w/ condescension instead of making her at least somewhat sympathetic, it was like, well yeah but her shit is garbage

oops i meant the 'entire thing at the beginning' not the entire thing like the entire episode

forks getting defensive on behalf of ny. thats a second city attitude lol

i feel like the boyfriend's death was only turned into a punchline to make hannah and jessa look like assholes for talking about it that way.

yeah but isnt the writer kind of flippant about it too?

the show def treated her target w/ condescension instead of making her at least somewhat sympathetic, it was like, well yeah but her shit is garbage

― littledotheyknow (D-40), Tuesday, June 12, 2012 12:42 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

scene between her and hannah made me laugh in the way lucille one and lucille two on arrested development make me laugh, tbh

i guess b/c of the realism of the dialogue in this show it just pushed it too far into arrested devel. territory for me, like i wish theyd made her character not entirely negative

yeah but isnt the writer kind of flippant about it too?

― littledotheyknow (D-40), Tuesday, June 12, 2012 12:47 PM (59 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

she doesn't joke about it and she kind of pauses when hannah blatantly brags about how her boyfriend is alive, but i guess she lacks the demeanor of a bereaved person. the show definitely does not fully characterize her, but i found her little dig at hannah's writing to ring pretty true.

but Marnie said her stuff was good. Maybe that's another negative though

forks getting defensive on behalf of ny.

def thought it was kind of inappropriate for professor christopher moltisanti to tell hannah that he didn't think the other girl was a good writer. i guess he's not her teacher anymore, but still.

i forget, they were both students of his? that's a bit weird yeah

my understanding was that they were, but i don't know if that was ever explicit

naw it was sweet

i mean, sweet for hannah haha

unethical imo

also totally rang true; teachers do that kind of thing all the time

hah, yeah

one of my favorite professors (whom i still keep in touch with) actually does that a lot

I liked the way Marnie really passive-aggressively put down the "hoarders" story and the ambiguous nature of how much she didn't like or how much she's just pissed off at Hannah.

loved his trite monologue of worthy subjects for writing, culminating in death of course.

particularly loved "what could be more trivial than intimacy?"

i feel like one some level that monologue was meant to be a bit boorish, but it also felt *right* on some level and something that Hannah/Lena has probably thought to herself many times.

the book publishing thing was def a bit of a "sex in the city" cast off but in a p. bad way.

that is really not the way i took it

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