GIRLS talk (the Lena Dunham thread)

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also major lols at Christopher Moltisanti as a shaggy-haired Oberlin writing prof

"Holy crap," I mutter, as he gently taps my area (silby), Monday, 11 June 2012 20:10 (eleven years ago) link

ugh friend fights :( that was pretty dead on

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Monday, 11 June 2012 22:55 (eleven years ago) link

I just watched it and was thinking that I'd never had a shouting fight with a friend like that! I've gotten into friend fights but more of the seethe for a while then talk it out kind.

wolf kabob (ENBB), Monday, 11 June 2012 23:29 (eleven years ago) link

I found the pacing of the fight weird and stilted? The constant one-shots didn't help, whole sequence felt needlessly choppy.

Simon H., Monday, 11 June 2012 23:48 (eleven years ago) link

yes, the episodes lena directed herself flowed much better. i haven't loved a show this much for a long time but that was a poor episode imo.

jed_, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 00:11 (eleven years ago) link

Fight + mayo were too good to say "poor episode". Weaker than the most of the series.

Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 00:12 (eleven years ago) link

what was mayo?

jed_, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 00:23 (eleven years ago) link

Adam getting the mayo from the fridge and saying not to disturbe him for ten minutes

Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 00:25 (eleven years ago) link

haha. i think i missed that bit.

jed_, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 00:38 (eleven years ago) link

I had a shouting match like that with a friend who is like a sister but it was on the phone - she even called me a bitch and hung up on me! It was harsh times for both of us, and neither of us are actually birches. Everything was sorted out within a eek but whoa.

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 00:43 (eleven years ago) link

birches!

wolf kabob (ENBB), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 01:01 (eleven years ago) link

When I see bitches bend to left and right
Across the lines of straighter darker trees,
I like to think some boy's been swinging them.

"Holy crap," I mutter, as he gently taps my area (silby), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 01:02 (eleven years ago) link

This show is doing so many things right.

― "Holy crap," I mutter, as he gently taps my area (silby)

balls, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 01:05 (eleven years ago) link

i came to this cold and spent the first episode wondering where Dunham had found such an amazing, subtle and brave actress to play Hannah. I have to say i was slightly overwhelmed to find out who was playing Hannah. I'd be envious of her amazing multi-talent if i didn't love her so much already. by the time i got to episode two basically i could forgive her anything for that amazing interview scene with the rape joke which i was still laughing at in bed that night. her acting in that scene tips the whole thing off the scale. she's amazing.

jed_, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 01:20 (eleven years ago) link

ep 2 was the best of the season by a lot imo
these last 2 eps have been bad
i think id prefer if it cared less abt character arcs & had less thru-plotlines

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 01:24 (eleven years ago) link

hahaaa iphone autocorrect birches!

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 01:26 (eleven years ago) link

ep 2 was the best of the season by a lot imo
these last 2 eps have been bad
i think id prefer if it cared less abt character arcs & had less thru-plotlines

― johnny crunch, Monday, June 11, 2012 9:24 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I usually don't do this but I'm gonna have to drop a "rong" on this

"Holy crap," I mutter, as he gently taps my area (silby), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 01:30 (eleven years ago) link

Didn't like the first 2 eps much tbh, and this last one was just OK. Rest has been good-to-great.

Simon H., Tuesday, 12 June 2012 01:31 (eleven years ago) link

eh im willing to concede it's more on me y i didnt like them but..

the rich dude freak out was really cloying
adam's street art apology thing @ the end was so rank

adam's getting the mayo was maybe a high pt in the latest ep cuz they let it be a subtle thing!

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 01:41 (eleven years ago) link

something about the editing & pacing of the roommate argument scene reminded me of this

http://cinema1544.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/allen-skeleton.jpg

Darin, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 06:19 (eleven years ago) link

"Adam getting the mayo from the fridge and saying not to disturbe him for ten minutes"

And the mayo still being on Hannah's nightstand when he was doing pushups!

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 13:23 (eleven years ago) link

I kind of hated the opening scene with the girl getting the book published. Something rlly backbitingly ugh, ny publishing, about the whole thing. Makes me never want to live in ny. So catty and gross

littledotheyknow (D-40), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 15:40 (eleven years ago) link

this episode felt a little schematic to me in terms of hannah, marnie and jessa all having classic twentysomething time to grow up moments, but the show is at least right about those moments. also exchange between hannah and jerky guy about the triviality of her work was note-perfect.

also christopher moltisanti!!!

horseshoe, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:07 (eleven years ago) link

slim leg! (gesture) slim leg! (gesture)

horseshoe, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:10 (eleven years ago) link

I kind of hated the opening scene with the girl getting the book published. Something rlly backbitingly ugh, ny publishing, about the whole thing. Makes me never want to live in ny. So catty and gross

― littledotheyknow (D-40), Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:40 AM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i don't know; the part about being unable to help being a wench to someone whose professional success you envy rang true, not just to ny publishing. at least hannah copped to it later in the episode.

horseshoe, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:12 (eleven years ago) link

thought this ep was a bit too transparently setting up conflicts to be resolved in the finale, not that it was poorly executed but imo it lacked lighter moments & felt a bit rushed or heavy

flopson, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:13 (eleven years ago) link

i feel like one of the things dunham is interested in is anatomizing "cattiness."

horseshoe, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:14 (eleven years ago) link

xp yeah there were definitely less laughs than average in this episode

horseshoe, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:14 (eleven years ago) link

my fav part of the episode was jessa's intrigue at weed dad's wife's description of her dreams in which she murders and eats her

flopson, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:16 (eleven years ago) link

slim leg! (gesture) slim leg! (gesture)

― horseshoe, Tuesday, June 12, 2012 12:10 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I LOVE THAT GUY SO MUCH

wolf kabob (ENBB), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:17 (eleven years ago) link

he is a genius of getting under my skin. loved his trite monologue of worthy subjects for writing, culminating in death of course.

horseshoe, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:18 (eleven years ago) link

ya that was amazing

flopson, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:18 (eleven years ago) link

have had a version of that conversation with a dude, more than once

horseshoe, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:19 (eleven years ago) link

I know this probably goes without saying but I think it's so important and amazing and brave of LD for showing herself as she is in nude scenes. Every single time that happens I'm surprised and hankful for her for doing this. In an ideal world that wouldn't be so remarkable but it is and it's awesome.

wolf kabob (ENBB), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:19 (eleven years ago) link

x-post - I still haven't watched TF but I know he's in it a lot and I should really get on that because he cracks me up in every scene he's in.

wolf kabob (ENBB), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:20 (eleven years ago) link

may have yelled at my tv during that scene

"racial profiling" THE FUCK DO YOU KNOW ABOUT IT, ASSHOLE

horseshoe, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:20 (eleven years ago) link

lena dunham's use of her body on this show and in tiny furniture is an amazing thing

horseshoe, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:21 (eleven years ago) link

Even if I didn't love this show for a whole host of other reasons it would still be important for that alone imo.

wolf kabob (ENBB), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:22 (eleven years ago) link

lol that you associate this with ny, it's publishing

“Argh!” I cry. But I really don’t care. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:35 (eleven years ago) link

totally
xp

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:36 (eleven years ago) link

lol that you associate this with ny, it's publishing

― “Argh!” I cry. But I really don’t care. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:35 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ny is where publishing is bro

littledotheyknow (D-40), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:41 (eleven years ago) link

chicago is where bad weather is but i don't say i would never go chicago because i associate it with okay never mind

“Argh!” I cry. But I really don’t care. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:42 (eleven years ago) link

i thought this was a good ep fwiw, i just found myself grossed out at the entire thing, and the way the boyfriend's suicide was turned into a punchline, like i 'get' the idea of disliking someone you're envious of in anything but the show def treated her target w/ condescension instead of making her at least somewhat sympathetic, it was like, well yeah but her shit is garbage

littledotheyknow (D-40), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:42 (eleven years ago) link

oops i meant the 'entire thing at the beginning' not the entire thing like the entire episode

littledotheyknow (D-40), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:42 (eleven years ago) link

forks getting defensive on behalf of ny. thats a second city attitude lol

littledotheyknow (D-40), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:43 (eleven years ago) link

i feel like the boyfriend's death was only turned into a punchline to make hannah and jessa look like assholes for talking about it that way.

horseshoe, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:43 (eleven years ago) link

yeah but isnt the writer kind of flippant about it too?

littledotheyknow (D-40), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link

the show def treated her target w/ condescension instead of making her at least somewhat sympathetic, it was like, well yeah but her shit is garbage

― littledotheyknow (D-40), Tuesday, June 12, 2012 12:42 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

scene between her and hannah made me laugh in the way lucille one and lucille two on arrested development make me laugh, tbh

horseshoe, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link

i guess b/c of the realism of the dialogue in this show it just pushed it too far into arrested devel. territory for me, like i wish theyd made her character not entirely negative

littledotheyknow (D-40), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link

yeah but isnt the writer kind of flippant about it too?

― littledotheyknow (D-40), Tuesday, June 12, 2012 12:47 PM (59 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

she doesn't joke about it and she kind of pauses when hannah blatantly brags about how her boyfriend is alive, but i guess she lacks the demeanor of a bereaved person. the show definitely does not fully characterize her, but i found her little dig at hannah's writing to ring pretty true.

horseshoe, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:49 (eleven years ago) link


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