You Doo Right by Can and Movin' On Up by Primal Scream; lyrics reinvented almost wholesale.
lol man this gets repeated a lot on the basis of Gillespie quoting a grand total of what, two lines? the songs are nothing alike.
― retro-shittified (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 7 June 2012 21:51 (eleven years ago) link
Actually yeah, that's a good point. It's in my head as a bigger rip than it is - its only actually the opening two lines, isn't it?
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 7 June 2012 21:55 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, gillespie just starts out w a quotation
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Thursday, 7 June 2012 21:56 (eleven years ago) link
I just remember it coming up on that recent Screamadelica vs. Kid A thread as evidence of the krautrock influence on the former album and I dunno it seems pretty thin... by that standard you could just as easily argue that the album was influenced by the Jeffersons
― retro-shittified (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 7 June 2012 21:57 (eleven years ago) link
The Spades: We Sell Soul became a 13th Floor Elevators Song (can't think of the title right now). ― Sebastian (Royal Mermaid Mover), Thursday, June 7, 2012 2:38 PM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
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Jeffrey Lee Pierce took a couple of Flipper songs to totally different places. I think there's something that came out of Get Away on the Flamingo e.p., have definitely heard live tracks.The Miami version of CCR's Run Through The Jungle is also pretty different. JLP using a lot of phrases nicked from blues songs where Fogerty seemed to be describing something out of Vietnam.
― Stevolende, Thursday, 7 June 2012 22:12 (eleven years ago) link
There's a track on Monster Movie by Can that has a central riff that's revisited on a track on Tago Mago. Is it Outside My Door to Mushroomhead?Might show how the 2 different singers influenced the development of an improvisation?
― Stevolende, Thursday, 7 June 2012 22:15 (eleven years ago) link
what's that Wilco song that uses Rocket from the Tombs lyrics
― retro-shittified (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 7 June 2012 22:21 (eleven years ago) link
Is it cheating to say that many old blues songs became Led Zeppelin songs?
― Sebastian (Royal Mermaid Mover), Thursday, 7 June 2012 22:36 (eleven years ago) link
I dunno about "many"
Zep re-appropriated a lot of stuff though - just as much left-field folk as blues imho
― retro-shittified (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 7 June 2012 22:37 (eleven years ago) link
John Renbourn, Bert Jansch, Spirit, Joan Baez
― retro-shittified (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 7 June 2012 22:39 (eleven years ago) link
Andy Partridge came up with XTC's 'Books Are Burning' after messing around with the chords from The Beach Boys' 'I Get Around'. 'Stupidly Happy' was written after he jammed Rolling Stones riffs over a drum machine.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 7 June 2012 22:43 (eleven years ago) link
There's a difference between being influenced/ripping off another song and releasing a new version of a song that had originally appeared somewhere as a "first draft".
― pplains, Friday, 8 June 2012 00:36 (eleven years ago) link
For example,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvCUJgnVg3o
― pplains, Friday, 8 June 2012 00:40 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hzrDeceEKc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeCcuH-EsuM
― The GeirBot (Geir Hongro), Friday, 8 June 2012 01:44 (eleven years ago) link
(Of course, with Oasis, it was usually the other way around, but not in this case)
― The GeirBot (Geir Hongro), Friday, 8 June 2012 01:45 (eleven years ago) link
Led Zeppelin infamously ripped off loads of blues and folk musicians, but here they ripped off themselves in their previous incarnation as the Jimmy Page-era Yardbirds (and also ripped off Keith Relf, who was uncredited for Zep's "Tangerine" even though it retained a full verse of lyrics he wrote for "Knowing That I'm Losing You" from the Yardbirds' last studio recording session from early 1968). Same basic verses, but complete different melody and lyrics on the chorus. Check out the Mellotron!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPh1r32TCMY
― Lee626, Friday, 8 June 2012 02:25 (eleven years ago) link
songs that sound like other songs
― pplains, Friday, 8 June 2012 02:26 (eleven years ago) link
that's pretty wild, Lee.
Another from The Who: "Naked Eye" partially evolved out of the "My Generation" jam on Live At Leeds (and their other early 1970 shows)
The instrumental break from "Havana Affair" became the riff for "Pinhead":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6UlXZxch-A
Steve Miller took a riff from his "My Dark Hour" and turned it into "Fly Like An Eagle":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A61i8xsFkno
― Hare Kinsey (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 8 June 2012 02:47 (eleven years ago) link
"I Wonder" by The Squires (featuring Neil Young) years later became part of Neil's "Don't Cry No Tears".
― Hare Kinsey (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 8 June 2012 02:55 (eleven years ago) link
More Who:
While I wouldn't count demos -- that is, "Can you believe the demo for the song evolved into the song?" -- "Baba O'Riley" underwent several renovations before the Who even got hold of it.
First there was the 9 1/2 minute instrumental demo (which is fucking brilliant):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-layDeazY8&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL6AD951471BEE5D25
Then the 7 1/2 minute demo with vocals:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh4wkMZXONc
Then there's a song called "Teenage Wasteland," using "Baba O'Riley"'s lyrics, but with a completely different melody and arrangement:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmbaWtQoLM0
― Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Friday, 8 June 2012 03:01 (eleven years ago) link
D'oh, sorry, first link shoulda been this...sorry, didn't mean this to be so messy...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-layDeazY8&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL6AD951471BEE5D25
― Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Friday, 8 June 2012 03:02 (eleven years ago) link
OK, that still didn't work...search on YouTube for "Townshend Baba O'Riley Demo."
― Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Friday, 8 June 2012 03:03 (eleven years ago) link
Was that the on-line equivalent of John Peel's "oops, wrong speed" there?
― Mark G, Friday, 8 June 2012 03:05 (eleven years ago) link
Something like that. Although, to the best of my knowledge, Peel never mixed vodka with RockStar energy drink.
― Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Friday, 8 June 2012 03:06 (eleven years ago) link
Another Yardbirds/Led Zep example - the guitar solo (starting at 1:58) in the Yardbirds' "Think About It" was later recycled in its entirety for "Dazed and Confused":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UseyCdGNfaY
Here are the Yardbirds performing "Dazed and Confused" in 1968:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYDhx_DgDxE
... and of course <i>that</i> song was merely a cover of this 1967 recording (the audio is awful on the Youtube post, with the classic descending bassline almost inaudible, but you can get the gist of it):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTsvs-pAGDc
― Lee626, Friday, 8 June 2012 03:11 (eleven years ago) link
and obv large swaths of hip-hop and rap samples or borrows from older songs
― Lee626, Friday, 8 June 2012 03:16 (eleven years ago) link
Stephen Stills took his Buffalo Springfield song "Questions" and made it the second half of the CSNY track "Carry On":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDjmmCvTH7o
Meanwhile Neil Young took his own (albeit unissued at the time) Springfield track "Down Down Down" and--after adding new lyrics--incorporated it into his CSNY jam suite "Country Girl":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgw9R2kzG3Q
― Hare Kinsey (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 8 June 2012 03:24 (eleven years ago) link
The Monkees "Goin' Down" started out as the backing tracks for an intended cover of Mose Allison's "Parchman Farm," then they decided to write their own song on top of it instead.
Siouxsie & the Banshees "Peek-a-Boo" was built upon sections of the horns and drum tracks played backwards from their cover of John Cale's "Gun."
― Hideous Lump, Friday, 8 June 2012 03:59 (eleven years ago) link
Wilco did Outtasite (Outtamind) and Outtamind (Outtasite) (I may have sic'd these titles slightly) on Being There.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 8 June 2012 07:06 (eleven years ago) link
"Revolution 9" developed out of the last eight minutes of the 20 minutes jam on "Revolution 1".
― Rob M Revisited, Friday, 8 June 2012 07:35 (eleven years ago) link
hey hey my my -> my my hey hey
Any reason why the song credits be different?
― Mark G, Friday, 8 June 2012 08:18 (eleven years ago) link
The title track on The Police's Reggatta de Blanc came from an extended jam they used to do live during the middle-eight of 'Can't Stand Losing You'.
― Gavin, Leeds, Friday, 8 June 2012 09:05 (eleven years ago) link
I think they never stopped doing that middle bit, live.
One peel session had it as titled "the missing bit from the middle of "Can't Stand Losing You""
― Mark G, Friday, 8 June 2012 09:16 (eleven years ago) link
Ha!
― Gavin, Leeds, Friday, 8 June 2012 12:09 (eleven years ago) link
Phish did this a bunch, mostly due to things evolving through live performance. The one I remember is the end section of "The Curtain With" evolving into "Rift".
― how's life, Friday, 8 June 2012 12:49 (eleven years ago) link
Bob Pollard has reworked older songs countless times:
Wall and Windows became Hardcore UFOsCrocker's Favorite Song > Class Clown Spots A UfoTell Me > Tractor Rape ChainSuperwhore > The Who Vs. Porky PigGirl From The Sun > Do The CollapseReptilian Beauty Secrets > Idiot PrincessSacred Space > Office of HeartsRocket Head > Teenage FBImany more...
― ColinO, Friday, 8 June 2012 12:50 (eleven years ago) link