Very sad news:
http://www.wkrn.com/story/18730944/former-fleetwood-mac-member-bob-welch-dead
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 June 2012 20:57 (eleven years ago) link
ugh what a bummer. only recently got into his era of the mac, but really enjoyed it.
― tylerw, Thursday, 7 June 2012 21:01 (eleven years ago) link
fuck.
― how's life, Thursday, 7 June 2012 21:02 (eleven years ago) link
i posted this to a fleetwood mac thread the other day, sweet 1971 clip of Bob Welch era F-Mac
― (REAL NAME) (m coleman), Thursday, 7 June 2012 21:08 (eleven years ago) link
this clip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhKrA-Z68Cs&feature=related
― (REAL NAME) (m coleman), Thursday, 7 June 2012 21:09 (eleven years ago) link
Sad but weird. I was just thinking about him yesterday.
― Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Thursday, 7 June 2012 21:11 (eleven years ago) link
Still don't own a one of those mid seventies Mac records.
― go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 June 2012 21:11 (eleven years ago) link
they're good! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MUxCzEhLQY
― tylerw, Thursday, 7 June 2012 21:12 (eleven years ago) link
yeah I dismissed solo Bob Welch in the late 70s as too slick but he forged his own style and it's aged surprisingly well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5auuDqHA_lU
― (REAL NAME) (m coleman), Thursday, 7 June 2012 21:14 (eleven years ago) link
― go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, June 7, 2012 9:11 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
re this, they are not currently available via itunes, amazon mp3.
― how's life, Thursday, 7 June 2012 21:24 (eleven years ago) link
this really sucksTitle track of future games is top 5 fm songs for me
― buzza, Thursday, 7 June 2012 21:27 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3SqYMgKhsk
ALL TIME
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 7 June 2012 21:34 (eleven years ago) link
should be more Paris love on here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GcptsQFsc8&feature=related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LTybSLLoBk&feature=related
― scott seward, Thursday, 7 June 2012 21:36 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjQKESka-BY&feature=related
― scott seward, Thursday, 7 June 2012 21:38 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4V4Tq5K4SXs&feature=related
― scott seward, Thursday, 7 June 2012 21:39 (eleven years ago) link
sorry! i just really like the Paris albums. but i like the solo albums too. and the mac albums.
― scott seward, Thursday, 7 June 2012 21:40 (eleven years ago) link
i kind of admired welch's willingness to write original songs called "sentimental lady" and "mystery train."
― tylerw, Thursday, 7 June 2012 21:52 (eleven years ago) link
never heard those paris albums! will be digging in.
These Paris tracks have a definite Zep lean. Haven't figured out if it's in a good or bad way yet.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 7 June 2012 21:54 (eleven years ago) link
'hypnotized' is all-time
― omar little, Thursday, 7 June 2012 22:53 (eleven years ago) link
RIP, and btw ILM, Tusk pales in comparison to Mystery To Me.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/07/bob-welch-dead-fleetwood-mac-gunshot_n_1579166.html?ref=entertainment&ir=Entertainment
― dlp9001, Thursday, 7 June 2012 23:27 (eleven years ago) link
very very sad. RIP BW.
― 69, Thursday, 7 June 2012 23:33 (eleven years ago) link
I could have sworn he died last year ...
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 June 2012 23:34 (eleven years ago) link
Oh, wait, that was Bob Weston.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 June 2012 23:35 (eleven years ago) link
Helen Daniels effect
― Morrissey & Clunes: The Severed Alliance (PaulTMA), Thursday, 7 June 2012 23:48 (eleven years ago) link
My local paper allowed a rare self-published obit, by Howard Cohen. From what I've heard about the Welch years this is OTM:
Welch’s sound — polished, radio-friendly yet moody and bewitching on songs like Sentimental Lady, Future Games and Emerald Eyes allowed the band to sell a steady 250,000 copies per album, good enough to keep the members signed and on the college touring circuit. More importantly, Welch helped Fleetwood Mac develop its distinctive male-female vocal blend that would prove formidable when Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham replaced him on New Year’s Eve 1975, after he quit.
In that respect, Welch joined Peter Best as rock’s unluckiest man. Best, of course, was the Beatles’ original drummer who toiled in obscurity with the pre-Fab Four before Ringo Starr’s arrival. Within a year of Welch’s departure, Fleetwood Mac hit No. 1 in America in 1976 with an eponymous album.
From that Fleetwood Mac LP, Nicks’ signature smash Rhiannon, which she always introduced on stage as “a song about a Welsh witch,” was a clear extension of Welch’s fascination with the otherworldly — UFOs, strange disappearances in the Bermuda Triangle off the coast of Key Biscayne and ghosts.
Nicks agreed to join Fleetwood Mac, she said, only after listening to Welch’s albums with the group and finding a common mystical thread that she could hear herself fitting into.
Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/06/07/2838184/former-fleetwood-mac-guitaristsinger.html#storylink=cpy
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 June 2012 00:16 (eleven years ago) link
Aw:
Welch’s fame was short-lived. Subsequent albums didn’t sell, and he had a falling out with Fleetwood, later suing his old band mates for back royalties. Welch believes this was one reason for his omission from the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1997 when Fleetwood Mac members who were in the band before and after him were inducted.
“The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame thing hurt my feelings, naturally,” Welch said in a 1999 online interview. “Mick (and John McVie and Chris) associate Peter Green with the high flying glory days of their youth, when FM was first breaking out in Europe. They associate Stevie and Lindsey, naturally enough, with the most glamorous, successful and exciting period in FM’s history. They associate my five years with the band, in contrast, with a very difficult time emotionally, which it was. Even though the band survived because of what we went through in that period, it’s not pleasant to think about for them, and so they don’t think about it and pretend it doesn’t exist.”
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 June 2012 00:17 (eleven years ago) link
That's awful. They let the band decide who goes in? I would think that'd be left entirely in the hands of an induction committee (or voting board...whatever), precisely to preempt such grudge-settling. Not that rock and roll bands are ever afflicted with grudges.
― clemenza, Friday, 8 June 2012 00:24 (eleven years ago) link
From Future Games to Hypnotized to Sentimental Lady, loved his voice a ton. RIP.
― Soccer mom, hopeless and lost, in utter despair (Dan Peterson), Friday, 8 June 2012 01:11 (eleven years ago) link
Future Games, Mystery to Me and Bare Trees are my fave FM albums bar Tusk — slightly uneven but often gorgeous records. Sad news.
― eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Friday, 8 June 2012 01:40 (eleven years ago) link
Bob Brunning died October 18 2011Bob Weston died January 3 2012Bob Welch died June 7 2012
― buzza, Friday, 8 June 2012 03:08 (eleven years ago) link
and then of course i think of the other bob weston when you say bob weston.
― scott seward, Friday, 8 June 2012 03:10 (eleven years ago) link
Bart Herbison, executive director of the Nashville Songwriters Association, quoted his wife Wendy as saying Welch had spinal surgery three months ago and doctors told him he would not get better, and he did not want her to have to care for an invalid.
― buzza, Friday, 8 June 2012 03:18 (eleven years ago) link
"Sentimental Lady" was already a shoe-in for my FM ballot. Side 2 of "Bare Trees" is amazing.
― Lee626, Friday, 8 June 2012 03:22 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXcKxJBBDYU
― buzza, Friday, 8 June 2012 03:33 (eleven years ago) link
Future Games is a timeless beauty of an LP. RIP.
― Lil' Kim Philby (Call the Cops), Friday, 8 June 2012 05:15 (eleven years ago) link
so yeah, Weston death not "last year", but very much this year -- January.
Two suicides from the 'Mystery to Me' era within months -- one by gunshot, one by alcohol
so sad when you watch how electric that 'Midnight Special' bit is
― Stormy Davis, Friday, 8 June 2012 07:55 (eleven years ago) link
Here's an interesting article on the whole Hall of Fame thing and some background on the voting process.
― Ned Trifle X, Friday, 8 June 2012 07:57 (eleven years ago) link
I just looked at his website for the first time. Between the ugly layout, the "ARTAGRAPHIC 3D HAND SIGNED FRENCH KISS COLLECTIBLES ...HEY ,IT'S BETTTER THAN BEING IN THE %&%## RNR HALL OF FAME" and the fact that he recently self-released Bob Welch Sings The Best Songs Ever Written ("Alfie," "Moon River" etc.) I'm really feeling for the guy. Add in his obsessions with UFO's and his rants on the music industry, and the whole thing just humanizes him (if that's the right word) in a way I'm having a hard time coming to grips with. Then to learn that he ended his life, facing some sort of paralysis after spinal surgery, I'm just gutted... Hope he's found a safe harbour.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0a4Kejk97uM
― Soccer mom, hopeless and lost, in utter despair (Dan Peterson), Friday, 8 June 2012 13:57 (eleven years ago) link
christ that website is nuts, totally unreadable.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 8 June 2012 14:44 (eleven years ago) link
it might actually be the most poorly designed website i've ever seen.
2/3 of the links are broken, there's a lot of black text on black backgrounds, he appears to using frames in part of the page but not all of it, blinking text, etc. it seems that when it occurred to him to add something to his site, he simply added it to the page without regard to where it is, if there's a subject heading, etc...
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― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 8 June 2012 14:47 (eleven years ago) link
poor guy seemed like a mess. :-(
i really like those welch-period mac albums.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 8 June 2012 14:51 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.bobwelch.com/crazywhite.gif
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 8 June 2012 14:53 (eleven years ago) link
ah, c'mon. Just becase he does his own website uploading?
― Mark G, Friday, 8 June 2012 15:03 (eleven years ago) link
have you looked at that website????
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 8 June 2012 15:08 (eleven years ago) link
and he's dead.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 8 June 2012 15:09 (eleven years ago) link
That clip above with the Peter Green cheese anecdote reminds me so much of an old friend of mine, funny, intense, and yeah, a little crazy.
I had never seen or heard this Kirwan/Welch era Mac tune before today. Shimmery and beautiful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsH7mVmFBec
― Soccer mom, hopeless and lost, in utter despair (Dan Peterson), Friday, 8 June 2012 15:37 (eleven years ago) link
some of the christine mcvie songs from this era are all-time.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 8 June 2012 16:49 (eleven years ago) link
Bare Trees is a fucking lovely record. Their finest start-to-finish album of the 1971-1974 era Mac for me. Amateurist otm about some of Christine McVie's songs from this era being very good indeed; it's not like her songwriting just appeared fully formed on the 1975 self-titled release, she'd already hit the target more than once or twice before then!
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Friday, 8 June 2012 17:10 (eleven years ago) link
i'm partial to this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwpE42bkfj8
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 8 June 2012 17:48 (eleven years ago) link
Everybody in this thread vote in the F.Mac ballot poll coming up!
― Trey Imaginary Songz (WmC), Friday, 8 June 2012 17:52 (eleven years ago) link
So if forced to choose one of these Mac-associated hits from the late seventies which would it be:
John Stewart - GoldKenny Loggins - Whenever I Call You "Friend"Bob Welsh - Sentimental Lady
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 June 2012 18:23 (eleven years ago) link
"Gold" is a masterpiece, the other two are good but John Stewart all day
― decrepit but free (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 8 June 2012 18:24 (eleven years ago) link
Agreed!
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 June 2012 18:33 (eleven years ago) link
in case anyone's interested, just posted a welch-era live-in-the-studio thing over here: http://ow.ly/bsxpw
― tylerw, Friday, 8 June 2012 19:38 (eleven years ago) link
this album is regarded as one of the mac's lesser efforts but this is an absolutely booming xtine mcvie track
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L66GYO73DLY
― omar little, Friday, 8 June 2012 19:42 (eleven years ago) link
Sentimental Lasy just popped up on my Discover Weekly playlist on Spotify – which sent me off looking into Bob.
Not sure it's been mentioned here yet but "Emerald Eyes" is terrific, the chorus has the most amazingly tight harmonies and this great loping piano groove.
― Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 3 December 2015 20:20 (eight years ago) link
sweet guitar solo too
― brimstead, Thursday, 3 December 2015 20:23 (eight years ago) link
Should've known Seward would rep Paris on here. Just got their s/t and it's a blast. Kind like later Zeppelin but more fun.
― "raw buttin' these toilet seats" (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 10 October 2016 22:46 (seven years ago) link
Alright, that's a dumb comparison, it's just a kickass fun hard rock album. Check out "Nazarene" man.
― "raw buttin' these toilet seats" (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 10 October 2016 22:54 (seven years ago) link
Since the Mac stuff is now on Spotify, I’d recommend this playlist to the uninitiated:
https://open.spotify.com/user/congainnautica/playlist/6HiN2LtXjN196BJ1bUxygi?si=TWq4k2kZTSOYdFl0ucrQ5A
― Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 12 November 2017 03:52 (six years ago) link
This...was a thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM_9nfDMzE8
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 2 July 2019 16:40 (four years ago) link
SENTIMENTAL LADY, a poll
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 2 July 2019 16:47 (four years ago) link
I am glad this was already addressed (including the inevitable Mardones connection).
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 2 July 2019 16:48 (four years ago) link
That video is awesome. He and that (sentimental) lady are really macking down, when his big cigar isn't getting lit.
Self-promotion alert: I did a vocoder version of this as part of my #SadRobotCovers when I first discovered this song about 3 1/2 years ago. Came out pretty well. Found here: https://soundcloud.com/the-me/sentimental-lady
― Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 2 July 2019 17:30 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZIgHEnC5qY
― buzza, Thursday, 1 June 2023 08:58 (eleven months ago) link