Which of the Indiana Jones sequels is the best?

I guess Morbs counts The Godfather Part II as a chapter in one movie.

Nah, just that the first is better.

Would not be surprised to find that the hoi polloi don't agree with Morbs on the 2's theory.

The 2s almost always have it: Frankenstein, Superman, Star Wars, Alien, Star Trek etc.

Morbz is OTM here, in general (left out Batman lol)

no, only on rare occasions do sequels clearly surpass their predecessors. agree on frankenstein and star trek, but that's about it.

are you serious?

Superman II, The Empire Strikes Back, Aliens, Bride of -- leagues better than their predecessors.

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superman and superman ii both suck. empire strikes back and star wars are both great. alien is better than aliens.

agree about bride, as i said.

Superman II, Empire, Batman Returns, and the Dark Knight are all better than their predecessors (disagree w Morbz re: Alien)

xp

and Godfather II is better than I

this sort of only applies to non-horror genres tho imho

okay, i'll grant superman ii, but it's not good enough to care about or haggle over, imo

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"Why do you say this to me when you know I will kill you for it?"

i still haven't seen crystal skull. and haven't seen 2 & 3 since i was a kid. voted temple

Batman Returns, and the Dark Knight are all better than their predecessors

these are interesting cases. both of the batman sequels are longer, more ambitious and much more interesting than their predecessors. otoh, they're both a bit shapeless, narratively. i do like them better than what they followed, though they're both messes with GREAT detailing.

oh cool this thread turned into a kevin smith script

do I have to derail this thread with lame Dark Nought jokes

Dork Knight iirc

what me, worry?

the dreck blight

oh cool this thread turned into a kevin smith script

i was bored sunday afternoon, so i watched that hardwicke/seyfried red riding hood flick, which i half enjoyed despite awfulness. then i watched that pegg/frost paul flick, which i half enjoyed despite utter inconsequentiality. then the (drumroll) the game of thrones season finale. which i fully enjoyed, etc.

somewhere amidst this five-hour television orgy, i realized that i am a complete and total nerd and that i should probably own a hellboy t-shirt or something. so sticks and stones...

We. are going. to die.

or, well, four-hour orgy. i only saw half of red riding hood.

alien >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aliens

^truth

it's not a lot of movies that ill say this about but paul could have used a rewrite by kevin smith and/or aaron sorkin.

H4A, I can assure you that your life will be so much more rewarding having never seen Crystal Skull

also temple of doom should have been directed by the guy who did cannibal holocaust. i would have felt less icky watching it.

have never seen The Spiel dissing ToD.

As I've said elsewhere, it has levels of zany sexism and cult xenphobia entirely fitting to a '30s potboiler. A-

(none of them can touch ET, obv)

Temple Of DJP

I have a weird amount of affection for Crystal Skull because the rifftrax for it was one of my all time favorites. Everything about is so absurd, I can't imagine what Spielberg and Lucas were thinking.

you have affection for Rifftrax then? PLEASE? I dunno if I can handle conflating that with love for the Crystal Skull, lol

Last Crusade all the way

anyone who disagrees gets a slap for blasphemy

Blashphemy surely.

*remembers the lengthy Sean Connery impersonation offered by da croup at a Manhattan breakfast place in the summer of '03*

it's not the last time that's happened

and then i remembered my charlemagne...
does anyone speak english?
and this is how we say goodbye in GERMANY!
no tickets
he chose...poorly

I watched the Last Crusade again a few weeks ago and I think it holds up.

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i feel like everyone i know IRL agrees that Last Crusade >>>>> Temple, surprised this is even a question

gooshtepping mohrahns

Last Crusade isn't a movie: it's a cavalcade for Sean Connery. When I watch it (more often than I admit) I skip over everything else.

I hated Last Crusade when it came out and haven't bothered to watch it since.

I shuddenly remembered my Charlemagne: ket my ahrmies be the ROHKS and the trees — and the bahrds in the shky."

i should have sent it to the MARCKSH BROTHERS

favorite moment might be when indy sends the motorcyclist flying, smiles to dad and gets rebuffed

she talkshs in her shleep

it belongs in a MUSEUM!

favorite moment might be when indy sends the motorcyclist flying, smiles to dad and gets rebuffed

― da croupier, Tuesday, June 5, 2012 9:54 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

oh man, totally

"Indiana, let it go."

I dig the fraternity greeting or whatever that he and Marcus exchange.

Eric and omar otm

The second is the best and Kate Capeshaw is one of my favorite post-screwball screwballs ("Ohh I broke a nail...").

― go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, June 5, 2012

I'll defend her for playing a cartoon character with totally committed cartoonishness...yet she also imbues a couple lines with unexpected pathos, i.e. explaining how her grandpa was beloved by kids for his magic tricks but died "a very poor man."

Short Round would need to ascend to annoying sidekick

I was told I have a very loud voice after a screening of this in a local beer theater. I shouldn’t have said “oh shit, here come the white people to save them!” so loudly at the end

I always remember Last Crusade getting a lot of (revisionist?) criticism for Last Crusade and what Jeffrey Boam et al did to the characters, but other than making both Brody and Sallah into more comic relief characters(when a lot of their screen time in the first one was to underline the gravitas of the situation), I can’t see it.

Last Crusade is the worst, most bloodless, and most worthless thing Spielberg was ever associated with. Including The Goonies

Last Crusade was terrible, there are two good Indiana Jones films only, the whole "explaining the hat / explaining the snakes" bit was terrible and unnecessary and created a terrible backstory-explaining precedent that was ultimately responsible for midichlorians and Prometheus

Doom revisionism baffling af itt

Last Crusade has plenty of fun set pieces to make the River Phoenix intro and "lol Indy and his dad banged the same Nazi!" forgivable IMO. (It was one of the first four grown-up movies I saw in a theater along with Field of Dreams and Hunt for Red October, my rose-colored glasses for all three will be forever undimmed. Also Star Trek V but I hated it even then.)

Love Temple Of Doom yeah.

Goose-stepping morons such as yourself should try reading books instead of burning them!

the best bit in the first one is how the ark death angels tidy up after themselves, now THAT'S what i call a secret weapon

not a bone in sight! It's like they're the workers who clean up airplanes as the passengers stagger offboard.

no wonder they're so vengeful

I watched Black Rain last night, noticed that Kate Capshaw was in it although not much. I love her in Temple though.

Didn't even know she was Spielbergs wife.

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My recollection is her part in Black rain is, based upon her role in Temple of doom, pretty solid subsequent typecasting.

I don't think TOD really steps wrong that much, unless you're not down with its particular "thing", which is understandable. Last crusade is a lot of fun but it's a film afflicted in a lot of key aspects by a lot of the most tedious blockbuster bullshit. For example I don't think turning Brody and Sallah into unserious comic relief characters is a small thing. Their sharpness and incisiveness and sober qualities in the first film really helped sell the whole damn thing. The River Phoenix prologue was pretty bad. The villains are pretty minor league and a lot of it just feels like an effort to overcorrect after TOD.

it's kinda like what was done with the Rise of Skywalker after Last Jedi, though I want to clarify that I think Last Crusade is a good and fun film and not a terrible and stupid one, unlike ROS.