... it's STILL "Temple of Doom"
― WHEY AHR MAH DREGUNS? (DJP), Tuesday, June 5, 2012 12:56 PM (2 minutes ago)
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link
Oh, and also the poll got it wrong.
― Björk lied (Eric H.), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link
if lucas and spielberg can both agree that temple of doom was bad, it's like getting bush to agree that iraq was a bad idea, so it's practically settled law by now.
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link
Including the Phantom Menace entry for kicks.
I lied. I included it because it's not the worst entry among these three.
― Björk lied (Eric H.), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:01 (eleven years ago) link
everyone who isn't totally insane thinks the first is best
mmph.
The 2s almost always have it: Frankenstein, Superman, Star Wars, Alien, Star Trek etc.
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:02 (eleven years ago) link
I used to think Temple of Doom was awesome. But Willie and Short Round just make me u_u now. that being said, Kali Ma is pretty fkn cool. and the eyeball soup and whatnot
but it's probably Junior.
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:03 (eleven years ago) link
I never said I wasn't insane, Morbs.
― Björk lied (Eric H.), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:03 (eleven years ago) link
The second is the best and Kate Capeshaw is one of my favorite post-screwball screwballs ("Ohh I broke a nail...").
― go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:04 (eleven years ago) link
last crusade 4 lyfe
― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link
Apparently the only way I like screwball is it if's accompanied by chilled monkey brains.
― Björk lied (Eric H.), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link
Gimme your poll.
Why?
Cuz I'm gonna THROW IT UP IN IT
― go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link
A hair away from the out of context thread.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:10 (eleven years ago) link
ahhhh
snake SURPRIIIIZE
― go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link
oh yeah but that snake/elephant trunk was p lol
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:15 (eleven years ago) link
hmm I remember a lot more funny things from Doom than Crusade
but then again
JOONYAH
I don't remember Sylvester Stallone in Last Crusade
― WHEY AHR MAH DREGUNS? (DJP), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link
last crusade is hell boring
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:28 (eleven years ago) link
Whenever the indentikit valkyrie Nazi is on screen I hope the zeppelin falls on her ("See? Gittee as a schoolboy!" argh fuck you DIE).
― go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link
Love all three (refuse to acknowledge the existence of The Fridge), going Last Crusade because I saw it in the theater and it blew my mind.
Aryan femme fatale was a babe.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link
seems her name was Alison Doody.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:30 (eleven years ago) link
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lq359wGhnY1r1xri8o1_400.jpg
― go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:31 (eleven years ago) link
On the other hand, I'm pretty sure they both said The Crystal Skull was "the best Indy movie yet!"
― Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link
Say what you will about Crystal Skull, there were at least a dozen truly memorable indignities on the franchise I could've used in "The Refrigerator"s place.
― Björk lied (Eric H.), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link
Morbz is OTM here, in general (left out Batman lol)
― retro-shittified (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link
'I'm pretty sure they both said The Crystal Skull was "the best Indy movie yet!"'spielberg thought it was so bad, he said the refrigerator was his idea to protect lucas.
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:41 (eleven years ago) link
I guess Morbs counts The Godfather Part II as a chapter in one movie.
― go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:43 (eleven years ago) link
Nah, just that the first is better.
― Björk lied (Eric H.), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:43 (eleven years ago) link
Would not be surprised to find that the hoi polloi don't agree with Morbs on the 2's theory.
― Björk lied (Eric H.), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:44 (eleven years ago) link
no, only on rare occasions do sequels clearly surpass their predecessors. agree on frankenstein and star trek, but that's about it.
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:51 (eleven years ago) link
are you serious?
― go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:51 (eleven years ago) link
Superman II, The Empire Strikes Back, Aliens, Bride of -- leagues better than their predecessors.
― go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:52 (eleven years ago) link
http://i2.listal.com/image/264049/600full-step-up-2%3A-the-streets-poster.jpg
― poxen, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:53 (eleven years ago) link
superman and superman ii both suck. empire strikes back and star wars are both great. alien is better than aliens.
agree about bride, as i said.
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:53 (eleven years ago) link
Superman II, Empire, Batman Returns, and the Dark Knight are all better than their predecessors (disagree w Morbz re: Alien)
xp
― retro-shittified (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:53 (eleven years ago) link
and Godfather II is better than I
this sort of only applies to non-horror genres tho imho
― retro-shittified (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:54 (eleven years ago) link
okay, i'll grant superman ii, but it's not good enough to care about or haggle over, imo
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:55 (eleven years ago) link
http://cdn.fd.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Terence-Stamp-General-Zod-Photograph-C10101814.jpeg
"Why do you say this to me when you know I will kill you for it?"
― go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:56 (eleven years ago) link
i still haven't seen crystal skull. and haven't seen 2 & 3 since i was a kid. voted temple
― Hungry4Ass, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:58 (eleven years ago) link
Batman Returns, and the Dark Knight are all better than their predecessors
these are interesting cases. both of the batman sequels are longer, more ambitious and much more interesting than their predecessors. otoh, they're both a bit shapeless, narratively. i do like them better than what they followed, though they're both messes with GREAT detailing.
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:59 (eleven years ago) link
oh cool this thread turned into a kevin smith script
― congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 21:00 (eleven years ago) link
do I have to derail this thread with lame Dark Nought jokes
― go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 21:00 (eleven years ago) link
Dork Knight iirc
― Björk lied (Eric H.), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 21:03 (eleven years ago) link
what me, worry?
― congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 21:04 (eleven years ago) link
the dreck blight
― omar little, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 21:05 (eleven years ago) link
i was bored sunday afternoon, so i watched that hardwicke/seyfried red riding hood flick, which i half enjoyed despite awfulness. then i watched that pegg/frost paul flick, which i half enjoyed despite utter inconsequentiality. then the (drumroll) the game of thrones season finale. which i fully enjoyed, etc.
somewhere amidst this five-hour television orgy, i realized that i am a complete and total nerd and that i should probably own a hellboy t-shirt or something. so sticks and stones...
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 21:06 (eleven years ago) link
We. are going. to die.
― go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 21:07 (eleven years ago) link
or, well, four-hour orgy. i only saw half of red riding hood.
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 21:08 (eleven years ago) link
alien >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aliens
^truth
― DG, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 21:08 (eleven years ago) link
it's not a lot of movies that ill say this about but paul could have used a rewrite by kevin smith and/or aaron sorkin.
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 21:09 (eleven years ago) link
H4A, I can assure you that your life will be so much more rewarding having never seen Crystal Skull
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 21:09 (eleven years ago) link
and the nazis were digging in the wrong place because.. the staff they were using was too short. but why was it too short? i must have missed that during the basket carrying caper.
annoying that marian's genius, signposted escape-via-drinking-game plan just totally.. came to nothing
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 15:24 (four years ago) link
Belloq's staff was too long!
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 15:25 (four years ago) link
too long? surely that cuts against a few national stereotypes
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 15:28 (four years ago) link
It's revealed a little later. The two sides of the medallion together give the right staff length, and the Nazis only had one side, the one that was burned into the Gestapo guy's hand.
― jmm, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 15:39 (four years ago) link
aaand take back one kadam, to honor the Hebrew god whose ark this is
that scene with the imam is my favorite indy scene ever
― lukas, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 21:39 (four years ago) link
Sallah bursting into Gilbert and Sullivan.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 21:43 (four years ago) link
xp lol yeah, the take back one kadam guy is really great. We should do a poll of indiana jones characters with 5 lines or less
― turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 22:02 (four years ago) link
100% the monkey
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 23:58 (four years ago) link
snake
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 00:10 (four years ago) link
I loved Dietrich.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 00:13 (four years ago) link
"M'sieu? I am...uncomfortable with this...Jewish ritual."
"LOVE YOU" girl
― jmm, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 00:29 (four years ago) link
You can hear a few muffled comments from the class as they're filing out.
"He's just off today, must be all that travel."
"Every time I see him he looks more like [something something]"
― jmm, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 00:30 (four years ago) link
LOVE YOU girl rules
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 00:44 (four years ago) link
... and his reaction! ‘Flustered’ I guess.
― piscesx, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 12:12 (four years ago) link
https://aveleyman.com/Gallery/Titles/t9435.jpg
― avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Tuesday, 6 April 2021 16:46 (three years ago) link
I rewatched last year for the first time in decades and was v impressed with the presentation of the title, had no memory of that.
― You Can't Have the Woogie Without a Little Boogie (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 6 April 2021 16:56 (three years ago) link
xpost: weird it got compressed, maybe this works:https://i.redd.it/epub0ba5st8x.png
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, July 13, 2016 5:06 PM (four years ago) bookmarkflaglink
Still can’t figure out what this is showing.
― Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 6 April 2021 19:14 (three years ago) link
imdb score!
― Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 6 April 2021 19:15 (three years ago) link
Star Trek: The Motion Picture (the “V-Ger” one) apparently scored so low it couldn’t even fit.
― Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 6 April 2021 19:18 (three years ago) link
Watched TEMPLE OF DOOM last night for the first time in eons. The kid was ready for it.
It's def a good one. I think now I'd probably rank it as the second-best Indy flick, just due to the sheer pacing of the thing (it's a vv fast two hours), with a classic opening leading cleanly into the main storyline without pausing, and a sense of genuine foreboding leading up to the palace sequence. I think it's a relatively *distant* second to Raiders, but that doesn't mean this isn't classic.
The gore isn't that bad here, you take away the sacrifice sequence and there's no much onscreen grisliness. But the tone and atmosphere makes it feel worse. Even the brief scene of Indy going into the black sleep or w/e has a disturbing feel, not to mention the forced blood drinking/voodoo doll torture/whipping scene immediately preceding it. It's crazy that it's not inconceivable a lot of this might get it an R today, forget a PG-13.
Kate Capshaw, not bad. She can be grating sure, but she frequently just simply looks amazing and she plays well off Harrison Ford. A bit of Melinda Dillon in her appearance I think?
Ke Huy Quan is really terrific here, it's a genuinely really fine performance which is funny but somehow doesn't descend into him being an annoying sidekick. It could have been so easy, but he can be very funny and even moving.
― omar little, Tuesday, 25 April 2023 22:06 (one year ago) link
I probably need to rewatch it. I saw it when it was first released and was appalled.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 25 April 2023 22:11 (one year ago) link
Genuinely not sure it’s worth the effort or credibility hit it takes to defend DOOM anymore … but its still the only Indy I ever have any desire to rewatch, in parts or in full
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 00:01 (eleven months ago) link
Eric and omar otm
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 00:07 (eleven months ago) link
― go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, June 5, 2012
I'll defend her for playing a cartoon character with totally committed cartoonishness...yet she also imbues a couple lines with unexpected pathos, i.e. explaining how her grandpa was beloved by kids for his magic tricks but died "a very poor man."
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 00:10 (eleven months ago) link
Short Round would need to ascend to annoying sidekick
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 26 April 2023 22:09 (eleven months ago) link
I was told I have a very loud voice after a screening of this in a local beer theater. I shouldn’t have said “oh shit, here come the white people to save them!” so loudly at the end
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 23:16 (eleven months ago) link
I always remember Last Crusade getting a lot of (revisionist?) criticism for Last Crusade and what Jeffrey Boam et al did to the characters, but other than making both Brody and Sallah into more comic relief characters(when a lot of their screen time in the first one was to underline the gravitas of the situation), I can’t see it.
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 23:18 (eleven months ago) link
Last Crusade is the worst, most bloodless, and most worthless thing Spielberg was ever associated with. Including The Goonies
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Thursday, 27 April 2023 03:27 (eleven months ago) link
Last Crusade was terrible, there are two good Indiana Jones films only, the whole "explaining the hat / explaining the snakes" bit was terrible and unnecessary and created a terrible backstory-explaining precedent that was ultimately responsible for midichlorians and Prometheus
― meat and two vdgg (emsworth), Thursday, 27 April 2023 05:12 (eleven months ago) link
Doom revisionism baffling af itt
― Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Thursday, 27 April 2023 05:18 (eleven months ago) link
Last Crusade has plenty of fun set pieces to make the River Phoenix intro and "lol Indy and his dad banged the same Nazi!" forgivable IMO. (It was one of the first four grown-up movies I saw in a theater along with Field of Dreams and Hunt for Red October, my rose-colored glasses for all three will be forever undimmed. Also Star Trek V but I hated it even then.)
― papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 27 April 2023 06:29 (eleven months ago) link
Love Temple Of Doom yeah.
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 27 April 2023 09:22 (eleven months ago) link
Goose-stepping morons such as yourself should try reading books instead of burning them!
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 April 2023 10:01 (eleven months ago) link
the best bit in the first one is how the ark death angels tidy up after themselves, now THAT'S what i call a secret weapon
― mark s, Thursday, 27 April 2023 10:31 (eleven months ago) link
not a bone in sight! It's like they're the workers who clean up airplanes as the passengers stagger offboard.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 April 2023 10:53 (eleven months ago) link
no wonder they're so vengeful
― mark s, Thursday, 27 April 2023 10:56 (eleven months ago) link
I watched Black Rain last night, noticed that Kate Capshaw was in it although not much. I love her in Temple though.
Didn't even know she was Spielbergs wife.
― Ste, Thursday, 27 April 2023 11:31 (eleven months ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/ebhJLnI.gif
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 April 2023 11:36 (eleven months ago) link
My recollection is her part in Black rain is, based upon her role in Temple of doom, pretty solid subsequent typecasting.
I don't think TOD really steps wrong that much, unless you're not down with its particular "thing", which is understandable. Last crusade is a lot of fun but it's a film afflicted in a lot of key aspects by a lot of the most tedious blockbuster bullshit. For example I don't think turning Brody and Sallah into unserious comic relief characters is a small thing. Their sharpness and incisiveness and sober qualities in the first film really helped sell the whole damn thing. The River Phoenix prologue was pretty bad. The villains are pretty minor league and a lot of it just feels like an effort to overcorrect after TOD.
it's kinda like what was done with the Rise of Skywalker after Last Jedi, though I want to clarify that I think Last Crusade is a good and fun film and not a terrible and stupid one, unlike ROS.
― omar little, Thursday, 27 April 2023 16:14 (eleven months ago) link