fiona apple - the idler wheel is wiser than the driver of the screw and whipping cords will serve you more than ropes will ever do (2012)

yeah, the whole "finally, my peers are getting into fiona apple / i was always into fiona apple" thing that perpetua/lex have been throwing around rings false b/c i was a total unnuanced indie fuck when i bought when the pawn and i bought it based on the critical attention

but i was also like 14 so i dunno

yeah i remember tons of people being excited about when the pawn hits when it came out (i think i was a freshman in college?). seems like she's always been a step cooler than morrissette and her ilk.

full album stream yay!

http://www.npr.org/player/v2/mediaPlayer.html?action=1&t=1&islist=false&id=154422085&m=154351745

:D

Yeah, this is marvelous.

who is drumming on this record

i would like to give it up for that drummer

in the past few years I've seen her live a bunch of times and she's just so fuckin talented, I'm not even a fan of her recorded material or anything it's just like her shit's so undeniable when you see her idk

BradNelson, it's Charley Drayton, who co-produced the album with her.

yesyesyesyesyes this album

the rounds on "hot knife" i just sat there looking at my speakers going OMGOMG silently to myself

the LYRICS

the ARRANGEMENTS

This is great. "Hot Knife" is crazy good, though hard to pick a favorite so far.

remember when we argued on the concept of regret?
you were an expert even then but not me, not yet
now all you gotta do's remind me that we met

Yeah I don't think anyone was expecting Hot Knife at all.

Judging by "Hot Knife" and this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvO31CyFlTI

Fiona and her sister should together more often.

This album is tremendous.

LOL

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/270904_10151792056115018_604816896_n.jpg

That's ...ironic?

haha

i think characterising apple's lyrics as "bottomless pit of despair" might be even worse though. do they not hear her humour?

oh look we're back to using adverbs like "bewitchingly" to describe woman piano music

this album isn't very bewitching, it's odd and sparse and more unvarnished than anything she's done before

I think I like it less now. But Hot Knife is still amazing and my favorite thing she's done in years.

I never expected those bouncy 1920s jazz vocal harmonies after some of the hyper-dissonant stuff that came earlier in the record. Also, with different production, it could be a Destiny's Child song.

huh

maybe I should have paid more attention to the rest of Fiona Apple's career

ok wow "hot knife"

"he makes my heart a cinemascope"!!

That's a great line!

He makes my heart a cinemascope screen showing a dancing bird of paradise

...or something.

ehhhh ilm has never been into young female singer-songwriters though, has it

― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Monday, April 23, 2012 10:22 AM (1 month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

where would women in music be without their sister lex taking care of them?

xp "he excites me! must be like the genesis of rhythm" is an amazing line as well

<3

the arrangements on this are kind of like if she took her ornate rococo brion-era arrangements and took 3/4 of the stuff out but left the essential heartbeat in

also how ridiculous that an album with "hot knife" as its most immediately talked-about song is getting these "OH SHE'S SO MISERABLE" reviews

I think for 'Bottomless pit of despair' read 'The most self obsessed person ever to make music...I mean nobody's wretched love life is that interesting....

musician formerly in bad relationship uses experience as creative fodder, film at 11

oh go90s flashbacks! the "all these wretched female singer-songwriters are so self-absorbed and they remind me of that crazy girl i dated once" line is pretty much the reason i rejected the music press from an early age

Anybody...

no. you're alone, all alone, sonnyboy.

great album. kind of aggressively weird, I haven't heard this many jazz piano chords on a pop album ever.

Really? I find her melodies dull and undistinguished for the first time. She's singing well though (e.g. the last two tracks). I've played it pretty much non-stop since last Thursday.

i've listened to this twice. not sure what to make of it yet

right now, i'm thinking it emphasizes rhythm too much, sometimes at the expense of melody.

really digging the warmth/brightness of anything we want, though

so far "Anything We Want," "Werewolf," and "Periphery" are the standouts

yeah, i'd agree with those three, and add every single night

i want to like hot knife, but those layered vocals kind of annoy me

Those layered vocals are my favorite thing about that song.

They aren't actually layered, though. Harmonies were recorded live with her sister.

just now listening to the NPR stream, this is gorgeous -- i liked When the Pawn just fine, didn't care for Machine, but my favorite's always been the debut and Idler Wheel steps back to the less cluttered sound of that album -- but with 1,000% the songwriting chops

yeah i've decided this is great. i really love the rawness of her voice in certain parts of daredevil and regret. the little chant at the end of periphery makes me happy

this "interview" is pretty out there

http://www.vulture.com/2012/06/hiding-out-with-fiona-apple-musical-hermit.html

We got very stoned. We talked about a man who wore upside-down glasses and whose brain, within a few days, adjusted to perceive them as right-side up. She showed me a sample of the secret language she’s been speaking — and sometimes singing — since she was a child, a cross between scatting and talking in tongues.

...

We drank and smoked more. Coming back from the bathroom, she had turned off the lights and turned on a little machine that projected a million green stars orbiting across the whole space of the ceiling. I lay on the floor, spinning, watching them spin. She sat at her desk, not moving much, mostly staring into the screen that bounced a pale glow across her face.

...

It was late. The music had stopped. I asked her, I don’t entirely know why, to ask me something. She asked me about one of the most intimate experiences of my life. I told her the truth.

I was now standing in the middle of the room; I felt very stupid. Despite my protests, she came over and put her arms around me. We stood there for a while, hugging. She said, and I could hear her tongue clicking in her mouth:

Dan. I’m so sorry.

love this album, love the production, love the sequencing -- the sad songs leading up to the burst of joy at the end. i like a lot of songs off her other albums, but i tend to pick and choose which ones to listen to in isolation. this feels like a full and complete package to me.

yes I do too. This weekend it snuck its claws into me.

Seconded re: the article mentioned above. Read it today. She's apparently fond of the weed and the whole article had a surreal feel to it, almost as if she and the writer were doing a performance art piece. It really made me want to hear this record thoug, so there's that.

Didn't like it for the first few listens, but now I can't stop playing it, especially "Hot Knife" (best on the album), "Werewolf," "Anything We Want," and "Valentine." Too much shrieking and hollering on "Regret," though.

it's quite a brave album how she just puts her vocals and poetry out there to be scrutinised -- not concealed behind many embellishments. a lot of her observations misfire, but some strike like a dagger. and both these elements are propped by really jagged piano chords that make everything she sings sound vulnerable and on edge. my favourite so far is "left alone" i think, which gives itself up 100% to the dark side and is suspended in one big, long swell of riled emotion. i'm sure she's alienated a lot of people with this album, but those people are probably not really willing to buy into what she's trying to put out there, so...

I can only take the deep dive back into this album after I've had some time away from it, but boy oh boy when I do...

'Left Alone' hitting like a hammer atm. Feeling you, Fee-Fee.

same here old lunch - last time i put this on was dec. in the xposts there, but i had not heard it since the tour and shit i forgot how good it is - the biggest shame is how fiona seems to have no intention of releasing a new record, but only stray singles like left hand kisses - based on articles it seems she is content to live in her trailer property and smoke hash all day ymmv

i'm sure she'll drop a new record, but the gaps are getting wider between each one. considering how much of her soul she puts into each one, i can't really blame her for not wanting to go through that experience more than once or twice a decade.

otm

seeing her live twice was amazing, she is such a great performer and the audience loves her infinitely.

I was actually just talking about how good this album is the other day

her poetry is super on point on this one (is on all of them obviously) and i admire how the record uses field recordings and avant-garde methods to create such raw, powerful songs

'Regret' is a raging blast furnace that reduces me to ash, every time.

otm

"based on articles it seems she is content to live in her trailer property and smoke hash all day ymmv"

who can blame her

not me

sounds ideal

i had a very bad week/month which had a lot to do with trying to reconnect with an ex and i think i should've been listening to this album the whole time

Good idea

even the "fuck you you complete asshole" songs on this one are so nuanced

Much of the album seems to be Fiona waving the listener away from the false door labelled "closure" and toward the real door labelled "get the fuck out"

otm

I spent August 2012 listening to this album in a loop

Much of the album seems to be Fiona waving the listener away from the false door labelled "closure" and toward the real door labelled "get the fuck out"

― fgti is for (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, November 30, 2018 4:16 PM (sixteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

nothin wrong when a song ends in a minor key

my ills are reticulate
my woes are granular
the ants weigh more than the elephants