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HI DERE, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 20:48 (fifteen years ago) link

tap, tap-drag over text to copy, when it's highlighted drag it to the view edge, it'll stick like a Post-It. Switch app, drag text off the side, it'll be placed. (This isn't far off how the Newton did it, either) xpst

stet, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 20:48 (fifteen years ago) link

^^^^^^ much more Apple-esque

HI DERE, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 20:49 (fifteen years ago) link

does anyone know the url for askjeeves?

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 20:56 (fifteen years ago) link

you should be able to find it at altavista.com

Ed, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 20:58 (fifteen years ago) link

Reasons why email doesn't replace MMS:

1. Some people don't have email on their MMS-capable phones
2. Most people don't have email push enabled
3. Most people don't know how to read email on their phones

Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 22:29 (fifteen years ago) link

Apple's answer to this:

1) Some people should by an iPhone
2) Most People should buy an iPhone
3) Most people need an iPhone

Ed, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 22:33 (fifteen years ago) link

estimated proportion of the American population that knows what 'MMS' is - 1/10 of 1%

gabbneb, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 22:33 (fifteen years ago) link

Blackberrys do both email and MMS, I just remembered.

Have people seen Samsung's lol "iPhone killer" lol, ie a crappier, larger iPhone knockoff with a slideout keyboard?

HI DERE, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 22:33 (fifteen years ago) link

estimated proportion of the American population that knows what 'MMS' is - 1/10 of 1%
Is that because they just don't know the term, or because they never send photo messages?

Alba, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 22:34 (fifteen years ago) link

they do, I am looking forward to having a play with the Bold and Thunder.

Ed, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 22:35 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm pretty sure that a ton of ppl know they can text pictures to their friends without being aware of the term "MMS"

HI DERE, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 22:35 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh, well that's probably the same as here. We hardly ever call texts SMSs either.

Alba, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 22:38 (fifteen years ago) link

estimated proportion of the American population that knows what 'MMS' is - 1/10 of 1%

-- gabbneb, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 08:33 (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

estimated proportion of REST OF WORLD population that knows what 'MMS' is - 99.999999999999999%

Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 22:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Have people seen Samsung's lol "iPhone killer" lol, ie a crappier, larger iPhone knockoff with a slideout keyboard?

Someone was telling me today about some new smartphone with a tiny little pull-out mouse.

Alba, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 22:41 (fifteen years ago) link

hahahahahahaha waht

That is just STUPID

HI DERE, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 22:44 (fifteen years ago) link

estimated proportion of REST OF WORLD population that knows what 'MMS' is - 99.999999999999999%

need reminding where Apple, Inc. is located and where most iphones have been marketed and sold?

gabbneb, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 22:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Yes! Buggered if I can remember which one it is though.

xp need reminding that this new phone is going to 70 countries? 69 of which are not America

Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 22:48 (fifteen years ago) link

no, I'm well aware of that. we'll see if they have something to complain about when they get the phone.

gabbneb, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 22:49 (fifteen years ago) link

great argument

max, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 22:50 (fifteen years ago) link

ghay argument guys

jhøshea, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 22:50 (fifteen years ago) link

most of rest of world has been using MMS for several years so of course people will complain.

in fact this tells me that we'll all find out v quickly if Apple knows REST OF WORLD exists

Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 22:51 (fifteen years ago) link

rest of the waht?

jhøshea, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 22:51 (fifteen years ago) link

perhaps the matter will be resolved several months hence when the phone is actually released in those countries

gabbneb, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 22:51 (fifteen years ago) link

perhaps the matter will be resolved several months hence in four weeks when the phone is actually released in those countries

-- gabbneb, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 08:51 (25 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 22:52 (fifteen years ago) link

the iphone is not being released in 69 countries in 4 weeks

gabbneb, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 22:53 (fifteen years ago) link

21, 21 of which use MMS afaia

Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 22:54 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't know why we're arguing about this. Point is Apple is releasing an MMS-incapable phone to a planet that uses MMS

Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 22:54 (fifteen years ago) link

lets all agree to disagree

max, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 22:57 (fifteen years ago) link

is it possible that the matter will be resolved by means of an app? if so, perhaps the issue is irrelevant to whether the phone is purchased now or later.

gabbneb, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 22:57 (fifteen years ago) link

perhaps apple just judges that its market is not composed of the sort of people who like to text phone pictures with their friends

gabbneb, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 22:58 (fifteen years ago) link

occasionally someone sends u a photo u laugh and never look at it again big deal

jhøshea, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 23:00 (fifteen years ago) link

MMS should be part of the std product suite. Sony Ericssons, Nokia, Motos, Samsungs, LGs etc all do MMS as standard, even some of the older ones w/out cameras. In fact I srsly cannot think of a single phone with camera that does not at least receive MMS.

Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 23:00 (fifteen years ago) link

The main reasons I'm still using my iPhone:

1. It was free.
2. It has more music capacity than my iPod.

The main reasons I'd buy a 3G iPhone:

1. More music capacity for less money.
2. 3G

Things I hope they'll fix:

1. The camera sucks.
2. The GPS is super-flaky.
3. Safari crashes constantly, esp. when listening to the iPod while browsing.
4. Intermittent screen freezes that require hard reboots of the phone.
5. The email interface SUCKS SO BADLY to the point where I wonder why it's there.
6. I'd use the calendar more if there was a way to display my daily appointments on the main screen.

Things I'm cautiously looking forward to:

1. App Store

HI DERE, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 23:03 (fifteen years ago) link

The rest of the world is having one big MMS orgy and the Americans are left at home, lonely, and wanking over their MMS-incapable iPhones.

Alba, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 23:05 (fifteen years ago) link

Hang on, how does HI DERE know the GPS is flaky? I mean, it probably is, but still.

Alba, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 23:06 (fifteen years ago) link

yah dan yr phone doesnt hav gps

jhøshea, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 23:07 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah its probably REALLY flaky

max, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 23:09 (fifteen years ago) link

7. The MMS is totally way flaky.

jeff, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 23:11 (fifteen years ago) link

The current Maps application has had GPS-esque functionality uding cell tower triangulation since either the 1.1.3 or 1.1.4 update.

HI DERE, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 23:24 (fifteen years ago) link

So yes, inaccurate use of the term "GPS" but that's the closest the phone gets without jailbreaking it and downloading an app.

HI DERE, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 23:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Not really, that's just as close as you'd get by jailbreaking. They're adding actual GPS hardware, without it it's all just guessing.

MMS works flaky cross-carrier and even within some carriers. Don't a bunch of them still tag on extra text, make users go to a website, or resize images without asking?

mh, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 23:29 (fifteen years ago) link

And let me echo, what about Snow Leopard? The Exchange support alone is going to be a killer thing as far as businesses go but I haven't really seen all the retarded "Apple finally supports business customers" articles that I'm sure will show up.

mh, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 23:30 (fifteen years ago) link

Those UK prices are pretty amazing really. I mean, I'd long ago resigned myself to getting one of these when they finally arrived. But the last thing I expected was that getting one would actually save me money, with no initial outlay at all. That's how it'll work out though - currently I pay about £50 a month to Orange, so if I switch to a £45 O2 contract and get the free handset, I'm instantly better off plus I've got an iphone. Irresistable.

me.com pretty exciting too, I think.

JimD, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 23:38 (fifteen years ago) link

You spend £50 on your tariff! Blimey.

Alba, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 23:45 (fifteen years ago) link

I know, I know. It's nuts. But still.

JimD, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 23:51 (fifteen years ago) link

Good deals will make it hard to resist, even if it doesn't do half the things it should. I'm whinging about it but it does loads more than this Nokia 6210.

Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 23:55 (fifteen years ago) link

Setting aside my inaccurate use of the word "GPS", which I have already owned up to, I don't see how it's anyone's guess as to whether the current implementation of "current location" on the current iPhone is flaky...? I try to use the shit all the time and it only gets the location right about 60% of the attempts.

HI DERE, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 23:55 (fifteen years ago) link

Doesn't it try to triangulate your position by bouncing off three different masts (or soemthing)? But I'd guess areas where 3 different masts are visible aren't really common enough for that to work more than about, ooh, 60% of the time.

JimD, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 23:57 (fifteen years ago) link

Yes, but the current triangulation thing is nothing to do with GPS, so putting it on a list of things you hope they'll fix doesn't make much sense, is all. I mean, the 3G version does have GPS.

Alba, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 23:59 (fifteen years ago) link


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