Best Celtic Frost Album Poll

love that there were 9 people attempting to get everybody mad by voting Cold Lake

1 will have been chuck...so point taken

The power of positive trolling.

oops i read up and it was his 2nd fave

When we doing the Coroner poll?

Best Coroner Album Poll

this thread reminds me that i still haven't heard a note of Vanity/Nemesis. it really is easy to forget that that album exists.

Was surprised to see Cold Lake even made it to the list.

someone would've complained that it wasn't on it and that they intended to vote for it (in this case 9 people )

Tom G. Warrior's "HEEEYYYYY!" is one of the greatest vocal signatures in rock history. It actually activates my (presumed) Tourette's Syndrome to the point that I just want to howl it at really inopportune, inappropriate times: on a crowded subway, late at night in my apartment, when my phone rings, to my cat, in the shower. I need to find To Mega Therion on vinyl. I love Into the Pandemonium a lot.

I saw them on the Pandemonium tour & they opened with "The Usurper" and everybody in the pit did the "uhh!" at the end of the first chorus

OMG I HATE YOU. No, that must have been fucking insane... I recently picked up the Darkthrone Panzerfaust reish and the second disc has Fenriz voicing-over basically about how much of a stan he is for Tom G's riffage. He ripped it off pretty mightily with that record, I have to say... And I love how non-intuitive yet perfect-feeling Celtic Frost's riffs are.

I tend to disagree with buying classics out of a sense of obligation, but when certain classics belong to some sort of stylistic tradition you love, I'm more inclined to do it. I didn't really care for the first two Venom albums much and never went further.
I fairly enjoyed Morbid Tales and To Mega Therion but still wasn't a FAN, although I loved "Procreation Of The Wicked" and "Dawn Of Meggido" quite a lot. I wondered if it was worth getting more because I'm not a total metalhead and I don't feel like I need to prove credentials.
But I when I got Into The Pandemonium I fucking loved it and finally felt like a fan. It makes me wonder how many bands I might give up on only to miss what might be the record that gets me properly into a band.

Something I especially like about Celtic Frost which I'd like to hear in more metal, is Tom Warrior's voice contrasted with an elegant (and sometimes slightly sinister) female voice. Do the later Celtic Frost albums do this? Are there any other metal bands who have a similar dynamic like that? "Rex Irae" being my favourite example, I just love how she sounds like this Lady Macbeth or some high sorceress from a Robert E Howard book.

re: female vox, the Storm record with Fenriz, Satyr and female vox from Kari Rueslåtten does this.

But actually came to post how much I love the first 3 Celtic Frost releases (including the Emperor's Return EP). Something about their sound changed on Into the Pandemonium that I don't quite love, but to then, I'd say they were a step up from Hellhammer.

Thanks for the recommendation. I'd like to hear more stuff like this.

Monotheist has the female vox you crave. It really is a quite brilliant album and as good as their pre-cold lake stuff

Thanks

got a newer copy of TMT to replace the one I lost and holy fuck this feels like the first time I heard this again (not gonna front, it was 1999, I wasn't around in the o.g. days).

nobody riffed like these dudes.

I know some people adore and worship Hellhammer and all but to these ears that shit's minor league compared to this

For such an influential band, hard pressed to say what kind of metal CF play. Black/thrash/crust/doom/death.

We lumped them in with European thrash back in the day. But yeah, CF has influenced every single extreme metal subgenre, so it's really impossible to categorize. "Avant garde".

Just had to restart To Mega Therion because I got to "SILVER HORSES BROUGHT US HERE TO THE EDGE OF THE UNIVERSE/WE LEFT THE FALLING WALLS AS THE STARS' COLLAPSE BEGAN" and I was like NO WAY is this fucking loud enough...

Oh and I've always thought of Celtic Frost as death metal. They never really used guitars in a thrashy way, to my ears, and their whole vibe was just occult bullshit and weird old fiction, a million miles removed from blue jeans, white sneakers and lyrics about society.

to me, Celtic Frost and Hellhammer are pretty unclassifiable, but exist at this heart of black, death and thrash metal. Heaviness-wise, they were absolutely big influences for death metal, but atmosphere-wise, they were just as big an influence for black metal. Riff-wise, they were basically a crusty thrash/speed metal band....but then again also played doom riffs. Great band.

also, Morbid Tales robbed in this poll. Beaten by Cold Lake????

there's 9 trolls on ilm who voted

this thread revival reminds me of one of my ALL TIME FAVOURITE display names, "Nightboat to Mega Therion". Much respect, Nick B.

That is a great DN.

Had left TMT in the car CD player last night and it was on when I started up the car to take my kid to the bookstore. I switched it immediately over to his Spiderman CD and he goes "No. Wait - put that song back on!" So I put it back on The Usurper and he had on this full-toothed grin and doing this swaying back-and-forth dance...kinda an Axl Rose thing.

About two minutes in, I saw that he was staring into space and figured he was bored so I asked if he was ready for me to change it back to Spiderman. "When this song's over, you can put it back." Cool.

After I changed it back he says "I like angry music because it's loud and because IT'S ROCK AND ROLLL!"

― kingkongvsgodzilla, Saturday, September 12, 2009 7:29 PM (6 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is the best post on ilx

To Mega Therion is classic, but it's strange how benign it sounds next to Morbid Tales/Emperor's Return. Then again Morbid Tales/Emperor's Return sounds benign next to Hellhammer.

been spending a lot of time with vanity/nemesis and it's great. they kept enough from cold lake that it sort of feels like a bunch of minimal thrash riffs allowed to twist into strange semiaccessible places. the bryan ferry cover is wild

I never posted in this so I likely didn't vote but I am definitely an Into The Pandemonium guy. Heavy and unique. I remember working at a record store years later and popping it in when it came in used and everyone I worked with - the alternative buyer, the hip-hop guy, even the hippie store owner - all found something about the album that got their attention in a positive way. Just a remarkable album, way ahead of it's time.

I found this thread because I wondered it anyone old remembered the beef between (I think) Don Kaye and Tom Warrior? I have a recollection of them duking it out in Kerrang! but I cannot recall the specifics. The internet was no help and Don Kaye doesn't like me so I don't want to ask him on Facebook.

Reissues of the first three and Vanity/Nemesis coming out end of next month. I'm not sure if they've been remastered or anything, but they come in book-like packaging, so I'm assuming Tom G. wrote typically long-winded liner notes. Earache's webstore has a bundle offer - less than $50 for the CD versions, $110 for the vinyl versions.

http://decibelmagazine.com/blog/2016/10/16/classic-celtic-frost-albums-to-be-reissued

"I haven’t heard Cold Lake since 1988 and I have no intention to do so before my death, although it will probably be played in hell for the next million years."

If you look at the individual CDs on the Earache webstore it has the bonus tracks... kinda weird break up (Emperor's Return is on TMT) but, excitingly, 1984 rehearsal tracks on Morbid Tales.

Tom Gabriel Fischer

As I am constantly receiving inquiries regarding the forthcoming BMG/Noise Records Celtic Frost reissue albums:

I am not part of this project, and I do not endorse it, as it does not reflect Celtic Frost's wishes, intentions, and identity.

It is thus my personal opinion that these reissues are not worth their (substantial) price.

good old Tom, he does like to bring the rain

Um...that's not what he said back in October...

http://decibelmagazine.com/blog/2016/10/16/classic-celtic-frost-albums-to-be-reissued

yeah that's his style. he is a dude whose thoughts about his own work should be taken w/several grains of salt.

He's written a typically long-winded blog entry about what happened. Basically, he wanted to use the Into the Pandemonium liner notes to re-litigate old grievances, BMG said "WTF dude, we'll get sued," and he said "Fuck this - I'm out!"

to me he is sort of the perfect example of the great artist who does not himself get his own stuff. his initial autobio circa 2000? 2001? was to me a pretty unreadable combo of "we didn't know what we were doing, but it came out a classic!" and "once again our titanic plans were foiled by THE SUITS!!" working with him has gotta suck hard

He disowned a perfectly good album in Cold Lake. Tom's a genius, but he does need to lighten up a little.

PROCREATION OF THE WICKEEEEEEEEEED

OOOH

lol I thanked Tom G Warrior in my bio for the musical I'm in and figured my director would edit it out but since he doesn't know who it is, he left it in. WIN!

Ha nice. Now to slip some UNNNH! and HEYYYYS! into your performance.

hmm now you give me ideas.

Well damn -- Martin Eric Ain has died.

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/former-celtic-frost-bassist-martin-eric-ain-dead-at-50.html#tjcBAASLSBv2PwR8.01

RIP

Tom G. Warrior's memorial is a must read

https://fischerisdead.blogspot.ca/2017/10/martin-eric-ain-1967-2017.html?m=1

That was a great read. And I'm glad I put on Morbid Tales while I read it.