Bloomberg: What the hell is his problem?

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a tax disproportionately on the poor, now there's a switch.

(I don't want them drinking that shit either, but the man's priorities are monomaniacal)

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Friday, 1 June 2012 18:01 (eleven years ago) link

sorry, guys, this is where my liberal streak really kicks in (fuck calling it a "libertarianism").

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 June 2012 18:02 (eleven years ago) link

Ordinarily I think I'd be totally against something like this but given where I'm working and what on it's sort of hard to be. It's not like someone still can't buy tons of soda but this might deter them or make them think about it even a little bit which can only be a good thing imo.

wolf kabob (ENBB), Friday, 1 June 2012 18:04 (eleven years ago) link

I'm okay with public schools eliminating soft drinks, PSA's during Cartoon Network, and so on, but I don't want a bored tinpot Ms Grundel setting rules. I mean, education does work. Every conservative I know (i.e. my family) no longer keeps Coke or Pepsi products around the house.

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 June 2012 18:04 (eleven years ago) link

people can still drink soda guys. just not as much

twittering spinster (k3vin k.), Friday, 1 June 2012 18:05 (eleven years ago) link

a tax disproportionately on the poor, now there's a switch.

(I don't want them drinking that shit either, but the man's priorities are monomaniacal)

― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Friday, June 1, 2012 2:01 PM (3 minutes ago)

this seems better than a straight sugary-drink tax, in that it encourages but doesn't punish moderation. buy a 16 ounce for the same price it always was.

i'm sensitive to regressive taxes like this too, but it's somewhat difficult to avoid when the epidemic you're fighting is so neatly tied to socioeconomic status, as obesity is.

twittering spinster (k3vin k.), Friday, 1 June 2012 18:07 (eleven years ago) link

where the hell is iatee

twittering spinster (k3vin k.), Friday, 1 June 2012 18:08 (eleven years ago) link

writing speeches for Larouche.

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 June 2012 18:09 (eleven years ago) link

oh c'mon

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Friday, 1 June 2012 18:10 (eleven years ago) link

i think this is kinda dumb, definitely paternalistic, probably pointless. and yet... i don't care too much? don't drink ANY soda, how 'bout that. voluntarily, like.

goole, Friday, 1 June 2012 18:11 (eleven years ago) link

probably says more about the hyperdense center-of-universe politics of NYC than anything else tho

goole, Friday, 1 June 2012 18:12 (eleven years ago) link

I think my big question here is "why is soda being treated like a life-giving substance that people need in order to survive?"

that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Friday, 1 June 2012 18:13 (eleven years ago) link

Great, I'm going to NY in September and now I have to triple my soda budget.

Brony! Broni! Broné! (Phil D.), Friday, 1 June 2012 18:15 (eleven years ago) link

really dunno why anybody drinks anything in a town where finding a bathroom is a soviet experience

goole, Friday, 1 June 2012 18:16 (eleven years ago) link

Try bumming a cigarette.

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 June 2012 18:17 (eleven years ago) link

means nothing til they ban bacon too.

how's life, Friday, 1 June 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link

what the hell is a soviet experience?

spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Friday, 1 June 2012 21:50 (eleven years ago) link

they made Solzhenitsyn hold it for 20 years

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Friday, 1 June 2012 21:55 (eleven years ago) link

lol

spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Friday, 1 June 2012 21:56 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

Soundbite from Bloomturd yesterday on soda-size hearings: "No one is going to stop this."

And next, alcohol:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/25/bloomberg-alcohol-abuse-city-telephone-survey-new-york_n_1701356.html

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 18:04 (eleven years ago) link

I guess I was gone volunteering for larouche the first time this came up but the way I'd suggest thinking bout this is let's say a democratic mayor passed a large-soda ban and bloomberg was being lobbied by a buncha soda giants and was trying to reverse the ban. do you really, honestly believe that you would be supporting that in that context?

iatee, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 18:55 (eleven years ago) link

big gulp-ernment

am0n, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link

I want ppl to live as unhealthily as they choose to, and decrease the surplus population.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 19:06 (eleven years ago) link

too bad they burn through all the public health dollars on their way out

goole, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link

(catch the Dickens quote?)

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link

nope

goole, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link

this kinda (very soft) health paternalism is pretty uncontroversial in countries where they accept that there's a social responsibility for health care provision / that maybe free market capitalism won't result in optimal decision making 100% of the time.

iatee, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 19:44 (eleven years ago) link

I'm all for ppl being healthier, but not nanny statism

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 19:45 (eleven years ago) link

democratic socialism inevitably requires something of a 'nanny state'. universal health care is nannystatism.

iatee, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link

i feel a lot more comfortable having huge private for-profit beverage corporations dictate the conditions of my soda consumption than representatives of elected government

max, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 19:52 (eleven years ago) link

I know there's irony somewhere in there, max

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 19:53 (eleven years ago) link

no way, what is freedom if not making sure that multinational businesses always have more influence than the state

max, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 19:54 (eleven years ago) link

I think what Morbs meant to say is that we don't really care until it affects our alcohol-consuming convenience. Or that could just be me.

check the name, no caps, boom, i'm (Laurel), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 19:55 (eleven years ago) link

as long as mikedolf bloomler stays away from the booze, i'm good with his health agenda.

Spectrum, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 20:16 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

oh, missed the last revive. anyway this is pretty much otm and echoes one of max's points: http://www.newyorker.com/talk/financial/2012/08/13/120813ta_talk_surowiecki

k3vin k., Monday, 3 September 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link

I've been turning this over in my mind for a while, and I just can't help but think there is something deeply wrong with the new campaign to convince mothers to breastfeed, like there's something sick about it. I don't know if I can entirely justify this opinion, other than the fact that I'm a new father and see what a sensitive and difficult issue it is already.

look at this quarterstaff (Hurting 2), Monday, 10 September 2012 02:36 (eleven years ago) link

Thanks to the revive, catching up on this thread's back catalog as a recent New York arrival. Holy shit did I LOL over the great "get away from windows during a hurricane" uproar.

Doctor Casino, Monday, 10 September 2012 02:56 (eleven years ago) link

i do like the idea of windowless rooms being the mark of the high class

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"i finally knew i had made it when i could sit in a dark, small, windowless room during a tropical storm"

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Doctor Casino, Monday, 10 September 2012 02:57 (eleven years ago) link

saw this ad:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7106/7740341158_f6e34f75fa_m.jpg

plastered on the side of a pepsi truck today

fight the power

iatee, Thursday, 13 September 2012 13:32 (eleven years ago) link

straight from the NYT homepage:

New York City Approves Ban on Large Sugary Drinks
By MICHAEL M. GRYNBAUM 29 minutes ago
The measure, which bars the sale of sweetened drinks larger than 16 ounces, will take effect in six months unless blocked by a judge.

Panel Decides to Regulate a Circumcision Ritual 2:27 PM ET

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 September 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link

read that article morbs

la goonies (k3vin k.), Thursday, 13 September 2012 20:15 (eleven years ago) link

saw this ad:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7106/7740341158_f6e34f75fa_m.jpg

plastered on the side of a pepsi truck today

fight the power

― iatee, Thursday, September 13, 2012 9:32 AM (6 hours ago)

amazing

la goonies (k3vin k.), Thursday, 13 September 2012 20:15 (eleven years ago) link

I've been turning this over in my mind for a while, and I just can't help but think there is something deeply wrong with the new campaign to convince mothers to breastfeed, like there's something sick about it. I don't know if I can entirely justify this opinion, other than the fact that I'm a new father and see what a sensitive and difficult issue it is already.

I haven't seen the specific campaign you're referring to, but as someone who also recently became a father, there is definitely a lot of pro-breastfeeding information presented to you by health authorities and others that you encounter on the road to parenthood. I don't think it was too over the top though I'm sure it annoyed some people. My wife and I intended to breastfeed though for various reasons things didn't work out that way.

o. nate, Thursday, 13 September 2012 21:23 (eleven years ago) link

xp I saw that sign in spanish, which somehow made it seem even more effective/ridiculous as faux-revolutionary propaganda

look at this quarterstaff (Hurting 2), Thursday, 13 September 2012 21:27 (eleven years ago) link

is there a thread in which we fight for our beverage choice

dayo, Thursday, 13 September 2012 21:36 (eleven years ago) link

brb patenting a hat that holds 4 16 oz. cocaine colars

skrill xx (cozen), Thursday, 13 September 2012 21:49 (eleven years ago) link

is there a thread in which we fight for our beverage choice

― dayo, Thursday, September 13, 2012 5:36 PM (22 minutes ago)

this one?

la goonies (k3vin k.), Thursday, 13 September 2012 21:59 (eleven years ago) link


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