killer mike raps el-p produces "R.A.P. Music"

holding mike up to the social agitation standards of NWA or ice cube seems a bit unfair

the state of 'political rap' on a mainstream level at this point is just kanye saying the same "the government invented aids!" shit over and over and lupe fiasco managing to look dumb next to bill o'reilly. below that level of media exposure it's not like what someone as relatively unknown as killer mike is going to cause any controversies OR change anyone's mind.

no one now coud ever have that level of impact like PE or NWA. it's a different world. plus at that time rap was still relatively new to america.

yeah things are definitely different now, but the problems NWA & PE were talking about are still here.

no, the police have been fucked, they won iirc

Mike's politics are definitely more interesting than the average simplistic "conspiracy" rap bull, and def more nuanced here than they were on, say, "Burn" - and anyone for whom the "politicians are killers/corporate shills" angle seems reductive/simplistic...I think I'd better just stfu about this right now.

no stfu-ing allowed, thats why we're having discussions about this

his writing feels a little more forced on the political joints or maybe my listening gets a little more critical when you are talking about the drug war vs banging some strippers.

i guess its privileged of me to suggest that what killer mike is saying is the unspoken subtext of street rap, like, most ppl don't receive street rap that way & there's obviously an audience for this, so why shouldn't they enjoy it?

maybe what i'm feeling is this sense that mike is doing the writers' job for them & maybe thats why he's so beloved; illuminating the context for the genre so the writer doesn't have to. or that writers really like it because what he does is closer to what they do. i dunno just thinkin baout things

the 'reagan' track does stick out as a clunker lyrically to me, i quite like the beat tho. I think I prefer pl3dge to this one, but I still dig it.

with "that's life" and "reagan" there's like a big initial hit of "oh this is awesome" but then like 5 plays later I don't need/want to hear it again. like the message has been received and there's not much to get at beyond that.

the track i really didn't like was 'country fried.' if it was big k.r.i.t. no one would talk about it. i like reagan more.

is mike's first proper album w/ clunky songs like a.d.i.d.a.s worth going back to? i still bang pledge 1 & 3 (don't have 2 for some reason, should sort that.)

yes

pledge 2 is dope as well. 'grandma's house' was my shit

'i'ma shine' was my favorite off the first pledge. speaking of, SL Jones dropped a project this week too all produced by DJ Burn One

that tape is really good. Think it's Burn One's best production job to date

agreed.

This album is amazing and still like the third best Killer Mike album. Another one for the latepassapedia

how do u rank them?

Monster
Pl3dge
R.A.P. Music
Ghetto Extraordinary [unreleased album from 2005, awesome stuff]
Pledge Allegiance to the Grind 1
Pledge Allegiance to the Grind 2

it floors me that ghetto extraordinary never got a formal release

1 pledge 2
2 rap music
3 pledge 1
4 monster
5 pl3dge

ghetto extraordinary is indeed awesome

yeah pledge 2 is the shit

i forgot about this "underground atlanta" thing -- my interest is perked retroactively

this album is better than big boi's, i'll say that much

nah prefer Big Boi's, only because BB has the gift for picking weird sounds and giving T.I. a better moment to shine.

that underground atlanta comp mike did was TERRIBLE. really bad if i remember right

ha, really? shit.

Huh, weird on Spotify desktop the real album shows up, but only the clean version shows up on my phone. Unless I'm doing something wrong, which I probably am.

hit the "dirty" app

maybe I need to get a whole new dirty phone

i forgot about this "underground atlanta" thing -- my interest is perked retroactively

― fapper don (J0rdan S.), Thursday, May 31, 2012 6:00 PM (36 minutes ago)

it was kind of whatever iirc - good pill song and a couple other ok joints but other than that it sucked

also iirc was like 30 songs?

oh ha what d-40 said

this album is a banger

Bit more of a chitty chitty bang bang. Especially next to Schoolboy Q who is exceptional.

you are trolling me.

Not at all. I just don't like the album that much, no need to take it personal.

apparently his next album is gonna be produced by burn one. should be dope.

nice

didn't think to check if there was a thread; been loving this since it dropped and the single is a MONSTER
with a very Driver influenced zombie video that i can pass on
but likely track o' the year material; best bun b feature i've heard in forever

New video for Big Beast is pretty cool and very NSFW

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8-RmM5py1c

lol the first 3 or so minutes i was like oh this isn't that band then o_O naked zombie chicks eating brains

first video to directly rip drive?

kinda diminishing returns on this album

oh man, that video.

album gets better with each listen

It's really good, but while half of it feels natural, another half feels like producer + MC. I've been obsessed with Mike since I first heard him. My ranking:

1. Pl3dge
2. pledge 1
3. rap music
4. ghetto extraordinary
5. pledge 2
6. monster

kinda need to see this live i think