allmusic.com redesigned again and it's being a turd

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the search was the exact same way before

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 20:43 (eleven years ago) link

ou see a list of albums. only if you were to very carefully look around the page would you notice the unobtrusive, grey-on white tabs up top for "compilations" and "singles & EPs".

^^if you can't see the clearly labeled "compilations" tab with is literally 1 MILLIMETER FROM THE ALBUMS TAB RIGHT BESIDE IT, then i'm surprised you can even read or type words into ilx

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 20:44 (eleven years ago) link

as long as those insufferable fullscreen popup ads are gone rovi's alright w/ me

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 20:45 (eleven years ago) link

also that was exactly the same before but it's better now because you don't have to leave the bio tab to view the main albums tab.

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 20:45 (eleven years ago) link

(xpost)

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 20:45 (eleven years ago) link

oh this looks nice

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 20:45 (eleven years ago) link

also remarkably little of substance has changed on the main page, just a different graphical skin and fonts

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 20:46 (eleven years ago) link

SO LONG AS YOU CAN FIND ME oh wait.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 20:53 (eleven years ago) link

the search was the exact same way before

― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, May 30, 2012 4:43 PM (4 minutes ago)

no it wasn't. like I was trying to say out upthread, it used to be that when you searched for something like "girl" + "yesterday", a list of song titles would come up, and when you clicked on "the girl from yesterday", for instance, you'd be able to see all the artists who recorded that song. now you just get an undifferentiated list of songs with "girl" and "yesterday" in the title. in the title, and you can't sort it by songwriter or title. it's completely different.

one improvement I noticed, though, is that they merged the Works and Discography listings for classical artists. before there'd be two separate entries for John Cage — one with his compositions and one with his releases — but now you can access them from the same page.

also the buttons to stream the songs are bigger, which is good.

overall they seemed to have optimized the site for clickthroughs to spotify and itunes and rdio, but it's hardly more useful as a research tool (not that it was ever perfect).

barman's bar mitz (unregistered), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 20:54 (eleven years ago) link

"in the title. in the title" - bleh, typos

barman's bar mitz (unregistered), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 21:02 (eleven years ago) link

like I was trying to say out upthread, it used to be that when you searched for something like "girl" + "yesterday", a list of song titles would come up, and when you clicked on "the girl from yesterday", for instance, you'd be able to see all the artists who recorded that song.

^i guess i never searched in this manner, i always just type in the song title, and that works the same as it did before.

overall they seemed to have optimized the site for clickthroughs to spotify and itunes and rdio, but it's hardly more useful as a research tool (not that it was ever perfect).

as they should, the site has to make money and i don't find it obnoxious at all

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 21:05 (eleven years ago) link

the search was the exact same way before

not at all. unregistered otm.

spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 21:06 (eleven years ago) link

^^if you can't see the clearly labeled "compilations" tab with is literally 1 MILLIMETER FROM THE ALBUMS TAB RIGHT BESIDE IT, then i'm surprised you can even read or type words into ilx

of course i can see it. i see those tabs because i know to look for them, being familiar with the site's basic design from years of use. i can't imagine that a not-particularly-internet-savvy first time user, however, would even think that these options might be available. there's nothing in the page design that draws attention to the fact that you're initially seeing only a portion of the discography. in fact, the elements that might draw attention instead seem to have been intentionally designed to evade immediate notice.

spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 21:10 (eleven years ago) link

xxpost but it doesn't work the same as it did before (contenderizer otm)! the sorting feature may not have been something that everyone cared about, but I don't see the need to get rid of a useful tool.

I don't think it's obnoxious that Rovi is trying to make money; just pointing it out.

barman's bar mitz (unregistered), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 21:11 (eleven years ago) link

ok i know your trying to contenderize me with this shit but i'm not having it

how in THE HOLY HELL DO YOU HAVE TO BE "INTERNET SAVVY" TO SEE THOSE TABS?

http://i50.tinypic.com/2woepu8.jpg

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 21:18 (eleven years ago) link

there's nothing in the page design that draws attention to the fact that you're initially seeing only a portion of the discography.

compilations, singles & EPs, and dvds were separated from the main album in the exact same manner in the previous design

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 21:19 (eleven years ago) link

it used to be that when you searched for something like "girl" + "yesterday", a list of song titles would come up, and when you clicked on "the girl from yesterday", for instance, you'd be able to see all the artists who recorded that song.

to clarify, if in the past, you wanted to find a song called something like "spongy mountain" (or maybe it was "mountain of sponge" or something, i dunno), you'd type "spongy mountain" into the search, and it would cough up something like this:

Spongy Mountain - 177
My Spongy Mountain - 118
Spongy Mountains - 32
Mountaintop Sponge - 4
Spongiform M - 1
I Had a Sponge - 1
Mountain Spot - 1

you'd click on a phrase, and it would show you a list of all the performers of songs with that specific title. very handy for tracking down songs whose title you only half-remembered, also for researching variations on a phrase and/or titles involving specific words.

using the current version of the song search function, however, you'd get all 334 results, unsorted and unsortable, 20 at a time, so that you'd maybe have to go through 17 pages to find that one version of "mountaintop sponge" you were looking for.

spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 21:22 (eleven years ago) link

how in THE HOLY HELL DO YOU HAVE TO BE "INTERNET SAVVY" TO SEE THOSE TABS?

good page design should draw attention to what is useful, and minimize distractions. this design makes useful functions unobtrusive and draws attention to junk.

spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 21:23 (eleven years ago) link

incredible discussion itt

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 21:24 (eleven years ago) link

how in THE HOLY HELL DO YOU HAVE TO BE "INTERNET SAVVY" TO SEE THOSE TABS?

good page design should draw attention to what is useful, and minimize distractions. this design makes useful functions unobtrusive and draws attention to junk.

― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Wednesday, May 30, 2012 4:23 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you are crazy

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 21:26 (eleven years ago) link

probably ¯\(°_0)/¯

spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 21:27 (eleven years ago) link

incredible discussion itt

well, it's a conversation about the design of this one particular website. not sure what you expect...

spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 21:28 (eleven years ago) link

BOW DOWN BEFORE THE ONE YOU SERVE

http://media.blurt-online.com/cqtuEEeFKNUV_m.jpg

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 21:29 (eleven years ago) link

MY SPONGY MOUNTAIN

emil.y, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 22:58 (eleven years ago) link

OK, I got the search box to work. I had javascript turned off sitewide because their old version was so terrible with it. It seems slightly better than the old version. I like that it shows which albums have reviews on the discography list.


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