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yah wtf youd think both of those would be easy fixes - has apple said anything abt c&p or mms

i've been using mms on my normal "dumb" phone for like.. four years i think?

hard to disagree

MMS has been standard on virtually all handsets in the UK for years. I hardly ever use it, but still.

I want one.

the only reason I can figure for the continued non-implementation of c+p is they can't work out a usable gesture/way to do it on multi-touch

any ideas how?

plus I hardly ever think 'oh shit, wish I could c+p'

clap your hands twice

The MMS thing is superannoying; I get messages from my brother all the time that I can't read because of it.

-- HI DERE, Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:04 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Link

I have an unlocked nokia E70 on TMobile and instead of getting MMS messages they get turned into fucking tmobilepicturebullshit.com links. MMS worked on my fucking Nokia 3660 from 2003. Sigh, MMS is kind of silly because most phones with "good enough" screens and cameras should have web & email.

Just the same; wish the iPhone had it.

no C&P is really fucking annoying; is this a definitive no? Wonder if someone can hack this in :(

gah

uk prices http://www.o2.co.uk/iphone/paymonthly

-- czn, Tuesday, June 10, 2008 5:32 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Link

plus I hardly ever think 'oh shit, wish I could c+p'

-- czn, Tuesday, June 10, 2008 1:02 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

LOL

I'll get one, but not necessarily right away

Not to encourage Matt Drudge, but do we think Jobs, post-pancreatic, is doing ok?

how much does the iphone plan end up costing per month after all the taxes and errything?

i want one mostly for the GPS cos i don't have it on my car. the whole touch screen deal is kind of annoying.

use of internet on phone /= use of internet on laptop

jobs looked in good form -- i thought it was prostate?

he's a rare pancreatic cancer survivor

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=alCNqvwo1zLY

This is a friend of mine totally on Apple's jock.

pancreatic, really?

wow, that is rare. good for him.

I'm sure I saw a patent application or something for multi-touch on an apple rumours site that had copy and paste as a three fingered gesture. It looked pretty workable to me. Select text, move three fingers towards each other to copy. Move to next app, move three fingers away to paste. Or the opposite...

i'm sure somebody could figure it out.

like, if they can make an iphone but somehow the entire apple team can't think of a new finger-wiggling gesture...

scroll to where you want to start copying
hit a menu button at the bottom of the screen and select "copy"
drag your finger over the text you want to copy
hit a menu button to save the text
navigate somewhere else
select "paste from clipboard"
select the appropriate copied text chunk from a scrollable selection

a little clunky but feasible; also thought up on the fly

so does anyone know how much the plan costs?

a kidney

tap, tap-drag over text to copy, when it's highlighted drag it to the view edge, it'll stick like a Post-It. Switch app, drag text off the side, it'll be placed. (This isn't far off how the Newton did it, either) xpst

^^^^^^ much more Apple-esque

does anyone know the url for askjeeves?

you should be able to find it at altavista.com

Reasons why email doesn't replace MMS:

1. Some people don't have email on their MMS-capable phones
2. Most people don't have email push enabled
3. Most people don't know how to read email on their phones

Apple's answer to this:

1) Some people should by an iPhone
2) Most People should buy an iPhone
3) Most people need an iPhone

estimated proportion of the American population that knows what 'MMS' is - 1/10 of 1%

Blackberrys do both email and MMS, I just remembered.

Have people seen Samsung's lol "iPhone killer" lol, ie a crappier, larger iPhone knockoff with a slideout keyboard?

estimated proportion of the American population that knows what 'MMS' is - 1/10 of 1%
Is that because they just don't know the term, or because they never send photo messages?

they do, I am looking forward to having a play with the Bold and Thunder.

I'm pretty sure that a ton of ppl know they can text pictures to their friends without being aware of the term "MMS"

Oh, well that's probably the same as here. We hardly ever call texts SMSs either.

estimated proportion of the American population that knows what 'MMS' is - 1/10 of 1%

-- gabbneb, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 08:33 (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

estimated proportion of REST OF WORLD population that knows what 'MMS' is - 99.999999999999999%

Have people seen Samsung's lol "iPhone killer" lol, ie a crappier, larger iPhone knockoff with a slideout keyboard?

Someone was telling me today about some new smartphone with a tiny little pull-out mouse.

hahahahahahaha waht

That is just STUPID

estimated proportion of REST OF WORLD population that knows what 'MMS' is - 99.999999999999999%

need reminding where Apple, Inc. is located and where most iphones have been marketed and sold?

Yes! Buggered if I can remember which one it is though.

xp need reminding that this new phone is going to 70 countries? 69 of which are not America

no, I'm well aware of that. we'll see if they have something to complain about when they get the phone.

great argument

ghay argument guys

most of rest of world has been using MMS for several years so of course people will complain.

in fact this tells me that we'll all find out v quickly if Apple knows REST OF WORLD exists

rest of the waht?

perhaps the matter will be resolved several months hence when the phone is actually released in those countries

perhaps the matter will be resolved several months hence in four weeks when the phone is actually released in those countries

-- gabbneb, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 08:51 (25 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

the iphone is not being released in 69 countries in 4 weeks

21, 21 of which use MMS afaia