Can - The Lost Tapes

anyone know anything about a vinyl release?

Checked the NovaMute site (the mail order), nope.

Let's not get greedy here

apparently there are no plans for a vinyl release of the Lost Tapes....

....which is a shame as I'd buy it in a second...

Yeah, the only thing that's putting me off buying this is if they *do* release it on vinyl in the future, I will be hella pissed off that I bought it on *yuck* CD.

I'm guessing there'll be a download option

Well, the price of a vinyl edition would make the CD version a fifth of the price?

i'm looking forward to it. even if the songs released so far aren't great and i hope there's more damo than malcolm.

The vinyl version would probably be digitally mastered anyway, thus pointless.

Glad our distributor finally started pricing this reasonably - early import price was like $80+. So looking forward to this!

somebody's gonna put it out on vinyl inside the next decade. you have to go into this with that understanding.

I know ILX doesn't desperately *need* another Can thread right now I know ILX doesn't desperately *need* another Can thread right now I know ILX doesn't desperately *need* another Can thread right now I know ILX doesn't desperately *need* another Can thread right now I know ILX doesn't desperately *need* another Can thread right now I know ILX doesn't desperately *need* another Can thread right now I know ILX doesn't desperately *need* another Can thread right now I know ILX doesn't desperately *need* another Can thread right now I know ILX doesn't desperately *need* another Can thread right now I know ILX doesn't desperately *need* another Can thread right now I know ILX doesn't desperately *need* another Can thread right now I know ILX doesn't desperately *need* another Can thread right now I know ILX doesn't desperately *need* another Can thread right now I know ILX doesn't desperately *need* another Can thread right now I know ILX doesn't desperately *need* another Can thread right now I know ILX doesn't desperately *need* another Can thread right now I know ILX doesn't desperately *need* another Can thread right now I know ILX doesn't desperately *need* another Can thread right now I know ILX doesn't desperately *need* another Can thread right now I know ILX doesn't desperately *need* another Can thread right now I know ILX doesn't desperately *need* another Can thread right now I know ILX doesn't desperately *need* another Can thread right now I know ILX doesn't desperately *need* another Can thread right now I know ILX doesn't desperately *need* another Can thread right now I know ILX doesn't desperately *need* another Can thread right now

*brief drum break*....

"even if the songs released so far aren't great"

u mad

The vinyl version would probably be digitally mastered anyway, thus pointless.

this really isn't true. records sound different. & you listen to them different.

i know ilx doesn't *need* another cds vs lps thread

have previews of all the songs surfaced?
I really need to verify whether the Alice track is the elusive theme to 'Alice in the Cities'

what happened to the 14 lp box set? so has anyone here got this yet? just read the review in the wire and goddamn i want to hear this NOW

Booth: Do you mean mastered FOR digital formats, or mastered IN the digital domain?

The former can be a problem for recodings mastered with a lot of brickwall limting, but Can I imagine wouldn't go down that route.

I have no problem with mastering and recording in digital being pressed on vinyl.

I want AAA all the way man. I don't want to blow this thread up with the analog vs. digital stuff, but just for me, personally, I don't really see the point of pressing digital music on an analog format. But I'm sure 99% of LPs these days go through some digital processing/mastering at some point and I still wind up buying new vinyl occasionally.

OK, for me that's no problem at all, a large propotion of the music I buy has been DDD all the way until it hits wax, I just prefer the experience of vinyl.

I hate the experience of vinyl.

Well, hate is strong. But it bugs me.

Hey Noodle. Go away man. You don't get cute points in Can threads.

Somewhere I read the vinyl will be out in late 2012...now I can't find where I read that. But I believe it was from Mute.

An early (5 Star) review:
http://www.godisinthetvzine.co.uk/2012/05/31/can-the-lost-tapes-mute

Roll on June 18th.

Said Schmidt of the material they found: “Obviously the tapes weren't really lost, but were left in the cupboards of the studio archives for so long everybody just forgot about them. Everybody except Hildegard, who watches over Can and its work like the dragon over the gold of the Nibelungen and doesn't allow forgetting.”

Another review.

http://mog.com/blog_posts/3894713/mogbar?a=mn70403

Streaming here:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog/2012/jun/11/can-lost-tapes?fb=native

So far, I'm surprisingly underwhelmed.

i'm pretty whelmed

Spotify is pretending to have this, actually it's a 5 track sampler...

I like "Millionenspiel" a lot; it goes a lot of places in 5+ minutes. Especially like the spy guitar/bongos part that sounds like Can-goes-B52s. I've listened to that one three times, but the others aren't doing much for me tbh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLufW9YvBz4

Don't want to lose my (huge) enthusiasm for this, but I can see why they cut the sax shuffle from the early Millionenspiel clip.

i'm scared to listen to this because it probably won't be anything like tago mago/future days/ege bamyasi

so someone tell me it is

This is extremely reasonably priced on Amazon. $23.00, is that possible?

I hope so. A lot of labels have been putting out multi-disc box sets for really cheap as of late. I paid less than $20 for the 3-disc Bitch Magnet reissue set and just barely over $20 for the Feedtime 4-disc thing. Its a nice trend.

This is, I'd say, an essential Can artefact and is chock full of amazing stuff. Given that Can haven't had a notable release since I've actually been a fan - something that I'd presume holds true for most people using this board - this is like monumental stuff for me. I'm surprised there hasn't been more of a song and dance about it. Good on them for putting out one large amount of stuff in one go rather than eking it out over a few years. The early version of Spoon and the live version of Spoon are especially magnificent.

LOL jono podmore

This is extremely reasonably priced on Amazon. $23.00, is that possible?

― kwhitehead, Wednesday, June 13, 2012 8:33 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

$18.99 on itunes.

$18.99?! For electrons?!

Man, three more days. I haven't felt this sense of excitement over a "new" release in years. Arthur Russell posthumous releases come the closest.

still £26 on amazon uk

10" square box?

Our distro at work said it was filled for our Friday shipment and when it wasn't in the box I was pretty sad.

Arrived with us on Wednesday.

Yes, a 10'' box and booklet.

I haven't opened and listened to one myself yet, but various friends are absolutely raving!

how much is it?

£31.99 in store for the moment.

$18.99?! For electrons?!

― Peaceniks, Homos, and Potheads Who Wear Ties (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 14 June 2012 03:23

^^

http://open.spotify.com/album/4cjiajlI63FLfGBXHVPsct

yeah this thing is wall-to-wall amazing, a gift that keeps on giving.

yeah a while ago i listened to it all on spotify and flagged the must-have tracks. It turned out to be like 70% of the collection.

hah, this was exactly my experience as well

Having another listen to this in honor of this thread getting bumped. I think that the ratio of 70% good/30% wtf is about right; but there is about 2 LPs worth of raw, prime-era Can material here which is way more than I was expecting out of something like this. God I love this band.

at the part where the 16-minute live "Spoon" kicks up, just hearing the echo of that little shuffle and the keyboards is sending shivers to my brain

yeah and the audience participation at the start of that spoon is amazing, not really like yr standard "hey everyone clap along" thing but almost as if the band is *playing* the audience.

Can anyone tell me if the vinyl box comes with a download code?

mine didn't....

i've been listening to disc 3 on repeat while i get ready in the morning for weeks
messer, scissors, fork and light especially

so great!

it's the perfect start to every day

I am taking that idea

I highly recommend it! Before too long you will start to hear the turbocharged Spoon long after it has stopped playing.

When they launch into the "ooooooohhhhhh" part on Spoon it blows me away every time

I need to buy the rest of this, so far only have a few tracks on iTunes

i was a little disappointed by this. hardly anything outstanding and a couple of tracks i don't care for like waiting for the streetcar, desert, godzilla fragment, on the way to mother sky, barnacles and mushroom.

pvmic

Also posted on the Can S/D thread, but this one is more active.

Malkmus does Can

i revived this one a week ago Search and Destroy (Can)

(xp) Yeah, the Pascal Bussy book has good stuff, esp. from Jaki, who's such a tough nut on the band's career, he doesn't seem to rate much beyond "Monster Movie"!

finally read this book thanks to an interlibrary loan and was disappointed as it's more lightweight than i'd hoped. occasional good quotes throughout though, including jaki's gripes mentioned above and the fact mentioned more than once that he hates playing alongside bass!

statementallity 1 year ago
what's a streetcar ?
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Jimi Hendricks 1 year ago
Another name for a trolley.
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statementallity 1 year ago
what like a cart ?
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I wish the CD box wasn't stupid

Why? Too flimsy?

it's huge! I want something that's gonna fit on my shelf

I never listen to this. :(

Unwieldy, yes.
It is SO GOOD. Lost epics, would gobble up more tbh.

They've now shrunk the box down to CD size

That's better since i think there were 3 cds just in envelopes with no real place to fit them inside the box. Though there are 3 holes at the back which might fit them without the sleeves, would be easier to have the kind of click in fittings that you get in book form sets or something.
There's also an oversize booklet included in the original version. presumably whatever content could be transferred to a smaller booklet, not sure if the layout was of any importance. Looks like the larger booklet allowed relevant photos to be next to text.

I think other countries (not sure which) have had a smaller version of the packaging for some time, I got mine off ebay a few years ago.

isn't the box LP-sized or close? I forget

my CD version is just a regular sized digipack-y kinda thing.
this set is the best thing. wonder if there's any more good stuff lurking in the can archives?

xpost the original box size is 10"

Yes. I sort-of assumed that a vinyl issue might have been done on 10" albums, but no.

file next to your reel-to-reel tapes, problem solved

My reel-to-reel tapes are seven inch, max.

If I see the CD-sized one in the wild, I will def pick it up

Soon of Babulama (1975) [65:01]
06. The Loop
07. Ibis
08. Private Nocturnal
09. Midnight Men

This surprised me, but I think this album benefits most from expansion as an album, because the bonus material is of equal strength to the album and has the exact same DNA. "Midnight Men" is a stronger closer than "Quantum Physics".

That's insane imo, "Quantum Physics" is different level genius. "Midnight Men" contains elements of "Vernal Equinox" (and Holger Czukay's "Oh Lord Give Us More Money") so it surely belongs with "Landed" anyway?

pretty happening Can rarities thing over here, some familiar things, some not familiar things: http://itslostitsfound.blogspot.de/2016/02/can-rare-one.html

Three of those tracks are on my standalone CD of Cannibalism 2, weird that they've fallen through the cracks. Never heard about the early pseudonymous The Innerspace stuff!

Whole CD of Inner Space has been released.

Correction, Two whole CDs of Inner Space have been released.

huh, missed those ... is Crippled Dick Hot Wax! a legit label? haha.

Think so, they've done stuff for years. schulemadchen report soundtrack LPs, that sort of thing..

https://soundcloud.com/finderskeepersrecords/finders-keepers-radio-show-krautrock-special

Was listening to this last night, there's a fairly long telephone interview with Malcolm Mooney, he sounds in rude health and humour.

just spotted this at irmin's website:

Irmin is currently working on a CAN book commissioned by Faber & Faber

Yeah this was mentioned on rolling reissues thread, it's exciting news!

www.allgatesopen.co.uk

Would be great. I got told that the Pascal Busey book was going o get a reprint about 10 years ago and ordered a copy which never appeared. Would like to read that.
But an insider book would be better still.

Last time i saw the Lost Tapes box on the shelf in FOPP it had been reduced in size to that book size taht Miles Davis etc sets got put out as. Is that still around?

It's been a while since I've listened to Turtles Have Short Legs and I'm listening to the singles collection and trying to remember if the stereo separation was always this ridiculous. It works, but it also sounds like someone was having a whole lot of fun putting it together

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i remember rocky jones
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