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I plan to, but the very first craft able fist weapon requires level 29, which is kind of weird.

muus lääv? :D muus dut :( (Telephone thing), Monday, 21 May 2012 12:59 (eleven years ago) link

There's a lot of weird things in crafting, really.

And it's expensive.

Crafting is the reason why I'll never be able to buy a bank tab...

Matt M., Monday, 21 May 2012 14:14 (eleven years ago) link

I've been throwing lots of gold into upgrading the crafting dude, but I've heard that the online auction house has enough stuff that you can basically decide exactly what you want and go check it out? Not sure, sounds good.

mh, Monday, 21 May 2012 14:18 (eleven years ago) link

Oh. I haven't even checked out the online auction house!

/newb

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Monday, 21 May 2012 15:15 (eleven years ago) link

witch doctor seems kind of boring so far. i may need to try another.

bnw, Monday, 21 May 2012 15:25 (eleven years ago) link

I haven't checked it either, Z S.

mh, Monday, 21 May 2012 15:26 (eleven years ago) link

monk is awesome so far, btw

I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Monday, 21 May 2012 15:32 (eleven years ago) link

I am actually proud that I haven't been playing this much. Not that it's not great but that I've given priorities to work and women over diablo. This must be what puberty finally feels like.
I am sure I will regress shortly

bailiwick bill (forksclovetofu), Monday, 21 May 2012 15:32 (eleven years ago) link

if we weren't having guests this week I would be spending all my free time playing this

as it stands, I woke up this morning at 5:30, showered and dressed for work, then played until 8:00

I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Monday, 21 May 2012 15:33 (eleven years ago) link

oh yeah, for the first two days I stayed up til 430
i have since recovered as work has gotten crazy

bailiwick bill (forksclovetofu), Monday, 21 May 2012 15:41 (eleven years ago) link

lol

My Friday night was pretty much eaten by the game. I didn't even quit to order pizza, I just switched to windowed mode while in town and ordered food in a web browser

mh, Monday, 21 May 2012 15:42 (eleven years ago) link

sponsorship opportunity for blizzard if you ask me; put online portals to pizza hut in town

bailiwick bill (forksclovetofu), Monday, 21 May 2012 15:43 (eleven years ago) link

If I'd wanted a larger chain's pizza, I probably would have ordered from my phone's web browser.

mh, Monday, 21 May 2012 15:44 (eleven years ago) link

my psu crapped out as the client was downloading. back to d2 for me for a few weeks.

adam, Monday, 21 May 2012 16:07 (eleven years ago) link

Russell Shirley 1979-2012

diamonddave85, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 02:45 (eleven years ago) link

This is crack. Crack kills.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 03:28 (eleven years ago) link

I'm not a doctor but if a 32 year old dies suddenly of heart failure it's probably only tangentially related to video games.

raw feel vegan (silby), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 05:33 (eleven years ago) link

"He always had a good heart" apparently not bro

raw feel vegan (silby), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 05:34 (eleven years ago) link

I feel like a dick for slagging on the guy whose friend died really young but the whole angle of Advancing Get Out of Your Damn Desk Chair Awareness seems absurd to me.

raw feel vegan (silby), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 05:37 (eleven years ago) link

yooooo. any of you fine folx have one of those guest passes left that i can scrounge?

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 13:33 (eleven years ago) link

Stupidly, they don't give you any if you buy the digital edition, only in physical boxes. But the digital edition is the same cost. :(

I was just too lazy to go to the store. Sorry.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 13:42 (eleven years ago) link

I have a couple, I'll look for em in the box when I get home.

mh, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 14:01 (eleven years ago) link

weird, how hard could it be to drop a couple codes in a digi download?

mh if you are able to email one of them over at some point i would be super grateful. webmail or bobbyspirals at gmail dot com

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 14:17 (eleven years ago) link

I'm guessing they put them in physical copies to give retailers a little bonus so they'd stock it. My understanding is that in a month or so everyone will be able to play the Starter version and you won't need a guest pass.

The stupid thing about the guest pass is you can't play co-op, which is the most brilliant thing they've got going.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 14:27 (eleven years ago) link

You can luckily upgrade the guest pass account to a full one, though. My friend was on his wife's guest pass and upgraded and now we can all play happily together.

I did the cheesy thing yesterday where you skip some quests and finish an act with someone who's already done so, powering through the end of the second-to-last one and ended up beating Diablo with another friend. So now I'm on the second time through and getting exp again!

mh, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 14:32 (eleven years ago) link

I did the upgrade thing.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 14:34 (eleven years ago) link

I'm also not sure about the skills selection yet. It makes sense but is kind of odd in that you choose skills, but never lose the ability to switch to others in the long-term. I mean, in other Diablo games you could eventually play so long that you could max out pretty much everything, but this model of unlocking skills by level and then being able to swap them around is something I'm still getting used to.

Has anyone found a good case where it's useful to use a skill but not the highest-unlocked rune of it?

mh, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 14:40 (eleven years ago) link

Huh, I thought it was 99 points (at life-draining lvl 99) but it took 20 points to max out each skill? Which lead to either "oh no this skill that looked good at level 10 is in fact rubbish but I have 10 points in it" or just going to the internet and picking one of the 3-4 working builds.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 14:52 (eleven years ago) link

Eh, probably, it's been a while since I've played the first couple Diablos and I doubt I ever hit level 99

mh, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 15:02 (eleven years ago) link

The impression I get is that the main, normal campaign is something of a gleeful extended tutorial.

phooey and nuts and phooey (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 15:13 (eleven years ago) link

But, for what exactly? Playing the campaign again?

mh, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 15:20 (eleven years ago) link

well, probably playing the campaign or co-op on a real difficulty level

I mean, I died by accident shortly after I hit level 10 because I'm still massively jet-lagged and was trying to make sure I wasn't going to be late for work and that was the only time I've even felt like I've been in danger, including the first boss fight.

that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 15:22 (eleven years ago) link

I died like crazy in a few boss fights, but I would agree that the FEAR doesn't kick in as much with this game because you don't really lose all that much by dying. On the flip side, the frustration doesn't, either.

mh, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 15:27 (eleven years ago) link

Man, Act II is a SLOG as a monk because of all those flying electromosquito things.

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 15:31 (eleven years ago) link

Those things are total bullshit no matter who you are.

mh, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 15:32 (eleven years ago) link

Once I got the Monk ability to summon a spirit warrior it became easier to deal with the flying poison bugs. The spirit warrior can haul ass and seems to target those things pretty well.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 15:47 (eleven years ago) link

a tutorial for harder level hardcore runs where killing you DOES matter.
blizzard is the only company i know who creates games made for a decade's worth of play. it's their business model and it works.
so i don't think anyone really understands the depth of play that's in diablo iii just yet. but i'm seeing glints and everything i read by the designers suggests this is very much going to be something they plan to support through 2020.

phooey and nuts and phooey (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:21 (eleven years ago) link

Anyone used the auction house yet? I threw a couple rare items on there for the hell of it, just to see if anyone actually bids. It'll be interesting to see how it works out when they open the cash version.

mh, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:32 (eleven years ago) link

And by rare I mean "crap that popped out when I beat Diablo in Normal difficulty" so I'm not exactly fishing for huge gold prizes.

mh, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:32 (eleven years ago) link

I've used the AH. I lowball. I really don't care, since it's not that much effort to get rares and the AH was completely, utterly stupid when I looked in on it the other day.

But have you played the secret level?

No, I can't get you there, but I might spend some time crafting the stuff that will.

I have to say that I LOATHE the new system of "Jump in to help a buddy and your progress gets boned." Came back to Act I NM after helping a friend and lost a half hour or more of progress. Not that it's a HUGE deal, I guess, but my game time is limited so taking steps backwards is unwelcome no matter how you slice it.

As for the normal being a tutorial, I've heard more than one person state "The game starts with Nightmare." Just like with WoW, the game really starts at max level (60, 70, 80, 85 depending on the version you were playing.)

And the Witchdoctor is giving me fits. He's really crippled for having only 4 skill slots at level 12 or whatever. Particularly when to make zombie dogs useful, you need a secondary skill and one of your passive skills set to boost them. It's like a more frustrating version of the Necromancer (my favorite D2 class by a mile.)

Matt M., Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:38 (eleven years ago) link

In Act I Nightmare now, and the unique packs are pretty much killing me instantly. Suspect my assumption that Normal mode provides no real idea of what the game is like is a correct one.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:39 (eleven years ago) link

real diablo souls starts now

phooey and nuts and phooey (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:39 (eleven years ago) link

Suspect my assumption that Normal mode provides no real idea of what the game is like is a correct one.

i never really played that much of Diablo I or II...what does this mean? the game is harder, duh, and you get better items, but...what else?

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 17:03 (eleven years ago) link

Mainly that character builds and strategies that work in Normal will be totally ineffectual in Hell/Inferno difficulty. The assumption that the game is designed to chiefly be played in Normal mode, with the harder difficulties only for fanatics being incorrect; the game is really being designed to be played in groups in Hell/Inferno, and everything is tweaked to make that the most rewarding experience.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 17:11 (eleven years ago) link

You can get through most of the first act as a wizard using whatever skills were mostly recently upgraded (runes granted). The thing is, that gives you a really messed-up set of skills that aren't all that complementary sometimes, and definitely doesn't help with any boss battles.

mh, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 17:35 (eleven years ago) link

The stupid thing about D3 (and it was stupid about D2) is that the champion packs (blue titles) of monsters are often far harder/more annoying than the named bosses or minibosses. Spider Queen? No problem. Extra Strong Damage Reflecting Gibberbottom Pantsfiller and his pals? Makes me want to smash my keyboard into my monitor.

But I'm older now and have a lot less patience for it.

In normal, you could probably get by with just about any skills you wanted (assuming a couple defense and rest for blowing stuff up) and finish the game. Less so in Nightmare. Much less so in Hell, to the point where you have to take these skills if you want to get by (solo at least; group play is probably more forgiving.)

Matt M., Tuesday, 22 May 2012 17:39 (eleven years ago) link

Is there a boss where the best wizard defensive skill isn't the one where you have fake copies of yourself? Seems like the best way to dodge getting damaged.

mh, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 17:54 (eleven years ago) link

Mirror Image is pretty boss for bosses, specially if they just eat your Templar in two bites. Diamond Skin for OH SHIT moments (and for Prisms, which lets you disintegrate more.) Hydra and/or Blizzard for fire and forget damage.

Matt M., Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:06 (eleven years ago) link

It's true, the bosses are weirdly anticlimactic, especially *spoiler*.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

I am amused that this game has been in the works for so long and the plot and cinematics are so lame.

mh, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 21:17 (eleven years ago) link


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