Kenny Dalglish Won't Be Delivering the Module: English Premiership 2011-12

it's v hard to explain the difference between Terry and yr conception of pro-footballers in general except to say that Terry seems unhealthily comfortable with his lifestyle choices more than most players i guess

ah. ok. that thread's opening few posts are quite succinct. he really is that much worse than the rest? do even the fans of his club hate him? or maybe i just don't follow any of them. lol @ him being england CAPTAIN, why would they pick someone so unanimously reviled?

most of his club's fans like him, many England supporters like him, we'd have to go into the weird socio-geographic rifts that run thru the notion of supporting England too.

srsly don't believe lex has never heard the phrase 'john terry' before today given his sterling attempts to be the most extracurricular football player of all time with his forays into criminal justice, celebrity gossip etc

going into that would be about the only thing that could make football interesting for me!

xp i may have done but footballers' names mostly don't stick in the mind, they all blur into one all-cheating all-racist thug

maybe worth doing a 'the weird socio-geographic rifts that run thru the notion of supporting England' ILE thread

ambiguity of 'England' deliberate

i'm sure we've had some debate about it on the England manager threads but i don't know if there's a full-on thread dedicated to it

and possibly wider - english athletes in general? i have always found the assumption that english audiences are only interested in hearing about english sportspeople quite weird and frustrating

possibly relevant in OLYMPICS YEAR

also the thread on nationalism which was more US-centred i think. but i'm clearly in too funny a mood to argue about stuff today. don't know why tbh.

Union Jacks almost automatically make me boo and i can't explain that fully either.

He is the ur-cheating all-racist thug though. The thing that makes him particularly hateful is that he dresses this up in quasi-heroic for England and St George blather and whenever he gets called out on anything his usual response is "I didn't do it" even when it's caught on camera that he did.

oh god one of my friends delivered some a+++++ union jacks commentary on twitter the other day, if i knew how to screencap or anything i'd repost it somewhere

they're not as bad as st george's crosses obv but being surrounded by them in JUBILOLYMPICS YEAR is doing my blood pressure no good at all

yeah, i enjoy most sports but the combination of the Monarchy, the Olympics and a kind of One Show all-in-this-together Britishness is making me half pukey half psycho at the mo

lol @ him being england CAPTAIN, why would they pick someone so unanimously reviled?

he is especially representative imo

they all blur into one all-cheating all-racist thug

that thug is john terry, tbh

so would there be something in the theory that he is some sort of lightning rod focus for everything (fans) already hate about the sport? encapsulating all the negativity that you kind of have to ignore or do some suspension-of-disbelief shiz elsewhere?

that's pretty astute

I don't know that we ignore it, but yeah there might be something in that, especially in him wearing his ugliness/unthinkingness as a badge of pride.

There's also a monumental lack of self-awareness, combined with ruthless, a bit cheaty and morally-unmerited success, that is most distasteful. He reminds me a lot of Gordon Brown actually.

yeah it's true, and i kinda why i find the visceral hatred of him either hysteric/hyperbolic or just lame like the LOL JT IS A CUNT stuff which is an insult to the proud tradition of lol football via ken c and a hoy hoy

i was going to do a poll of most hateful golden generation player but i think ive brought enough rote negativism to the board as it is

nobody who has seen the super grainy footage of lampard jr and ferdinand sr trying to coerce blowjobs out of girls in ayia napa circa 2000 could plausibly argue that terry is an altogether worse category to them

My performance was on the same tape as a recording of Kieron and Frank with a couple of birds, but it wasn’t all at the same time.

I didn’t even know about what they had done, it was not all one big orgy, as was reported.

Somehow, the camera got nicked. About two weeks later I got a call from a newspaper about a video of me shagging a bird. I could have fainted.

The video was wrong, yet to me it was harmless, just part of growing up.

The truth is some women will do anything to crack on with footballers and, let’s be fair, which young players would pass up the opportunity to take them up on some of their offers?

Some birds will buy you drinks all night, strip for you, get shagged with other people in the room and do all sorts of tricks. It was highly embarrassing.

a marina hyde column describes it as 'ordering them to perform a lesbian sex show', i guess the beejes required no persuasion

also id forgotten that lampard was involved in the famous post-september 11th abuse of american tourists at an airport

these last few tweets from nakhchivan are kind of why i was curious in the first place b/c i thought the kind of behaviour i was reading about from terry was...commonplace among footballers

tweets?!

#spendingtoomuchtimeontwitter

FWIW Lex, John Terry is no longer England captain. He's actually been stripped of the captaincy twice, first for having sex with a team-mate's wife, then for alleged (ie definite, just not yet proven in a court of law) racist abuse of a black player, Anton Ferdinand. Anton's brother, Rio, was the guy dropped from the England squad altogether for having the temerity to be a bit annoyed by this.

So yeah, that lightning rod thing is pretty astute actually, although I think JT has a kind of unrepentant malice you don't get with most of yr hateful Golden Generation types.

shit title

― 10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Saturday, 6 August 2011 21:58 (9 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

suppose lfc would settle for any title tho what what

― 10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Saturday, 6 August 2011 21:58 (9 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fuck off back to the Europa League where youse belong

― i'm sorry for whatever (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 6 August 2011 21:58 (9 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

psychic powers, obv

fuck off back to the championship thread where you belong

another thing about EBJT is his rheumy-eyed sentimentality (mainly about himself).

If JT could suck his own dick he'd still be pissy about it

lachrymose blubber

terry seldom actually says much of note, it's just he appears like a total dick.

sort of agree he is at worst the face of another few hundred famous players who are cut from the same cloth.

get on dis ting

"The Championship is not an option" - I Love Football off-season and transfer speculation thread 2012

just for the record, as one of the proud pillars of the traditions of lol football I fully endorse LOL JT IS A CUNT

shagging away his teammate's birds
sprouting alledged racist words
kneeing someone at the back, got himself suspended
still changed into his shirt after the final has ended
english and proud
he proclaims to the crowd
the smirk on his face
it's a fucking disgrace
at least in the end small justice prevailed
when he tried to push his way to the front but failed
that was magnificent
p.s. JT's a cunt