― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 20 September 2004 20:02 (nineteen years ago) link
just think what your life would have been like if you had told her, "yeah, daft punk rules"!
vocoders are like anything else, they can be employed poorly or well.
― amateur!!st, Monday, 20 September 2004 20:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 20 September 2004 20:04 (nineteen years ago) link
I nearly bought a vocoder last month.
― adam. (nordicskilla), Monday, 20 September 2004 20:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― amateur!!st, Monday, 20 September 2004 20:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 20 September 2004 20:06 (nineteen years ago) link
Wait - Techno?! Okay, whatever. I dunno, I heard Discovery and was blown away and then I bought Homework thinking it was just as lush but instead was greeted with maybe a couple of good (but overlong) tracks mixed with nothing but "Whump whump whump whump". Sometimes the whumping goes on for a good five minutes without actually doing anything. Sometimes DP treat us to a 303 noise for the last two minutes of the track. But yeh, I can never see why a lot of people prize this so much and then say that Discovery is rubbish.
― dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 20 September 2004 20:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― amateur!!st, Monday, 20 September 2004 20:07 (nineteen years ago) link
Just relax and feel the groove, dl.
― adam. (nordicskilla), Monday, 20 September 2004 20:07 (nineteen years ago) link
dan to thread
― amateur!!st, Monday, 20 September 2004 20:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 20 September 2004 20:08 (nineteen years ago) link
it is dance music, afterall.
― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 20 September 2004 20:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Monday, 20 September 2004 20:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― amateur!!st, Monday, 20 September 2004 20:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 20 September 2004 20:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 20 September 2004 20:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― adam. (nordicskilla), Monday, 20 September 2004 20:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 20 September 2004 20:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 20 September 2004 20:11 (nineteen years ago) link
He was always good with genre.
― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 20 September 2004 20:12 (nineteen years ago) link
no, ronan, i think it's your mom who says that OH MY GOD OH NO PFFT
― amateur!!st, Monday, 20 September 2004 20:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 20 September 2004 20:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― stephen morris (stephen morris), Monday, 20 September 2004 20:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 20 September 2004 20:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― adam. (nordicskilla), Monday, 20 September 2004 20:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Monday, 20 September 2004 20:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― amateur!!st, Monday, 20 September 2004 20:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― amateur!!st, Monday, 20 September 2004 20:18 (nineteen years ago) link
I just realized the potentially disasterous implications of this acronym in this phrase.
― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 20 September 2004 20:18 (nineteen years ago) link
Who said dance music had to be so deadly dull though? Surely dance is all about build ups and break downs and cheeky little bits that make you sit up and take notice. Granted, Discovery is perhaps more of a rock album compared to Homework but it is testament to the way dance can make you feel exhilarated and keep you bouncing around, new ideas hitting you at every turn.
Homework may have harder beats but they're really unpleasant to listen to (and I like Gabba). It's this kind of depressed mid-tempo whumping noise. It doesn't do anything to improve my life.
― dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 20 September 2004 20:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 20 September 2004 20:19 (nineteen years ago) link
Okay, Morrissey.
― Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Monday, 20 September 2004 20:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 20 September 2004 20:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― adam. (nordicskilla), Monday, 20 September 2004 20:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 20 September 2004 20:22 (nineteen years ago) link
Yeh, me too. Maybe I ought to forget about Discovery and try Homework out seperately. I still don't think I'll like it. Every time I've put it on, track one starts...
WHUMP WHUMP WHUMP WHUMP WHUMP WHUMP"Hmmm...."WHUMP WHUMP WHUMP WHUMP WHUMP WHUMP"...When's that melody gonna kick in?"WHUMP WHUMP WHUMP WHUMP WHUMP WHUMP"S'pose they're just being DJ friendly or something"WHUMP WHUMP WHUMP WHUMP WHUMP WHUMP"Aw, c'mon DO SOMETHING!"WHUMP SQUELCHY WHUMP SQUELCHY WHUMP"Ah, that's more like it... I-I think"WHUMP SQUELCHY WHUMP SQUELCHY WHUMP"This is testing my patience more than an Autechre album..."WHUMP SQUELCHY WHUMP SQUELCHY CROWD NOISE(TRACK ENDS)"Was that it?"(TRACK TWO BEGINS)WHUMP WHUMP WHUMP WHUMP WHUMP"Oh for crap's sake".
I like repetitive loops and beats as much as the next man but these don't equal genius, they equal knob twiddling, and not very exciting knob twiddling at that.
― dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 20 September 2004 20:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 20 September 2004 20:29 (nineteen years ago) link
why don't they just break out the organically grown guitars!
― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 20 September 2004 20:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 20 September 2004 20:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 20 September 2004 20:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 20 September 2004 20:34 (nineteen years ago) link
Wow. Abandon all hope, dude.
― Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Monday, 20 September 2004 20:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 20 September 2004 20:37 (nineteen years ago) link
This is the line that makes me bubble with inappropriate laughter.
― Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Monday, 20 September 2004 20:37 (nineteen years ago) link
Hang on hang on. I know that on ILX I like to play devil's advocate a lot but you know that this is not what I'm saying. If you read my posts you'll know that I enjoy producing, mixing and dancing to dance music. Don't want to get up on this now but I've noticed that you will get pretty aggressive about certain subjects and I could see you were going to play the "you are a rockist" a long way off.This is rubbish really. If you've read my comments above, I was not having a go at any particular style of music, I was talking about Homework and how most of the tracks are average-speed whumpers with little or no variation to them. Maybe I'll admit that I think a good dance track should have build ups, breakdowns, stops, starts, and in most cases some kind of hook. Homework doesn't make me feel anything at all. It doesn't move me because it's all the same speed and more or less the same sounds the way through. It becomes a chore. I can't dance to something that is that predictable. Ironically I reckon "So Much Love to Give" is ace but that's because it really is one big massive build up. I dunno, it's just a drag.
― dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 20 September 2004 20:48 (nineteen years ago) link
nobody would say "it's just guitar playing" about a rock band.
also how "homework" is hookless remains a mystery to me, most of the haters would complain it's too full of hooks and not loopy enough, and let's face it in comparison to so so so much ace dance music it really is full of hooks.
― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 20 September 2004 20:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 20 September 2004 20:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 20 September 2004 20:56 (nineteen years ago) link
For me it was the Velvet Underground. The only LP (in print or otherwise) I could find when I got into them was the 1985 odds & ends comp... which is not to say it wasn't a great listen but certainly not on par with the big 4. Then a couple years later I found a SEALED copy of WLWH for $8.99 lol.
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 15:20 (eight months ago) link
REM too - I was first aware of them as the band that did Shiny Happy People with the singer out of B52's when I was about 10. Later got Out Of Time out the library as a young teen, and soon after that Automatic For The People came out, this very big serious grown-up album. It was ages until I walked into a bigger record store and realised they had stacks of albums prior to that.
― Stomp Jomperson (dog latin), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 15:31 (eight months ago) link
Loads of people must have come to Blur via Song 2.
I also know people who came to the Prodigy via stuff like Warrior's Dance who say the earlier albums sound thin and old-hat. Nutters
― Stomp Jomperson (dog latin), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 15:56 (eight months ago) link
See also:
Madonna - Ray of Light album (and chart singles)Santana - Supernatural (and smooth)Cher with Believe Most recently Elton John for newer generations with the Dua Lipa remix/cover thing.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 16:25 (eight months ago) link
Ditto the falsetto TikTokification of pretty much every song ever made
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 16:53 (eight months ago) link
xp I definitely had a wrong impression of Blur after "Song 2". Years later I realized I DID know another Blur song - "Girls and Boys" - but had no inkling it was the same band
― Vinnie, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 17:41 (eight months ago) link
Are Gen Z really into Discovery? Great if so, cause I find most younger Gen Ys seem to think RAM is their best, which is totally baffling to me
― Roz
A fairly good barometer of what online Gen Z music people think is RYM, where it sits at #79 of all time.
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 19:54 (eight months ago) link
If anything I think the zoomer love for RAM is growing, in spite of the grubbing it seems to have increasingly gotten elsewhere. My love for it has probably grown too. How I wish drums sounded like that on every pop or rock (or disco) record made today.
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 19:56 (eight months ago) link
yeah I found most of RAM to be a strung out snoozefest too but no doubt it's a really great sounding record which shows the kind of shit you can and should be doing with an actual budget, I wish more big acts tried to sound like that
― frogbs, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 20:01 (eight months ago) link
Happened a lot for me when I was 11, 12 in the mid 90’s. My first approach for several “legacy” acts was with their most recent hits as presented in compilations like “Now!” So per example this were all songs I first heard by these artists
This was always me when I was little - the years-long gaps between loving lots of songs by an artist (in childhood) and becoming an actual 'fan' (generally in adolescence) - but it was sometimes via some probably odd tracks, i.e.
David Bowie - New Killer Star (via Brit Awards 2004) (I did already sort of know "Heroes" but never listened to it)Erasure - Solsbury Hill (via Now 54)George Michael - Flawless (Go to the City) (via Now 58) and the Shapeshifters Remix (via numerous summer 04 club compilations) (again, I sort of liked Fastlove but rarely listened to it)
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 20:02 (eight months ago) link
My opinion of Human After All has increased over the years and RAM declined sharply after I initially enjoyed it. Now they’re even for last place, although neither are bad by any means.
― Cow_Art, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 20:45 (eight months ago) link
Human After All is my favourite
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 20:45 (eight months ago) link
the best Daft Punk album is the Musique Vol 1 best-of compilation and even that suffers by using the radio version of One More Time and by not featuring Burnin'
― boxedjoy, Wednesday, 9 August 2023 11:45 (eight months ago) link
“Something about us” seems the most RAM thing on the album
― corrs unplugged, Wednesday, 9 August 2023 11:53 (eight months ago) link
Not exactly what you're asking, but a few music enthusiasts my age had their first serious encounter with David Bowie via Blackstar.
― vexingvexillologist, Wednesday, 9 August 2023 12:29 (eight months ago) link
Prince’s Batman would be mine
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 9 August 2023 17:24 (eight months ago) link