TOOL - C/D!?

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Ah. Between this and the MIA comments I believe I have found the antimatter me.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 21 April 2005 13:19 (eighteen years ago) link

heh, it appears that way!
Though I have agreed with you from time to time (though I can't think of an example offhand)

Space Is the Place (Space Is the Place), Thursday, 21 April 2005 13:21 (eighteen years ago) link

and I might've been too harsh, I prefer them to Mars Volta at least

Space Is the Place (Space Is the Place), Thursday, 21 April 2005 13:26 (eighteen years ago) link

no, you werent too harsh. tight, yet clinically dull is about right.

AaronK (AaronK), Thursday, 21 April 2005 13:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Flipping through the radio dial, from the Vanessa Carltons to the Ciaras to the horrendous Pharrell Williams falsettos to the Jessica Simpsons to the etc etc for all eternity, it is so fucking refreshing (ironically) to turn the dial to fucking TOOL. Classic.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 21 April 2005 14:05 (eighteen years ago) link

:-D

The other day my coworker and I were getting something to eat on a quick break and we heard "Schism" floating from a car stereo. We approved.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 21 April 2005 14:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Honestly, they are probably my favorite band that I never listen to nearly enough.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 21 April 2005 14:08 (eighteen years ago) link

walking with a friend one day we passed a dude in a Tool t-shirt. after he'd passed my friend said, "evertime i see some guy ina Tool shirt i just think, 'yeah, exactly'."

b b, Thursday, 21 April 2005 16:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Sounds like your friend should have been wearing the shirt if that was the extent of his or her wit.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 21 April 2005 16:52 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm beginning to think that I like a lot of music I'd deam "clinically dull."

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Thursday, 21 April 2005 17:18 (eighteen years ago) link

i like that german cake recipe song. "ohne eier". eier in german means eggs and balls at the same time. sinon they are one of the more interesting heavy metal bands. which is almost a contradictio in adiecto.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Thursday, 21 April 2005 17:38 (eighteen years ago) link

I like that Brent D is a totally hilarious guy!!! LOL HE IS SOOO RANDOM!! I HAVE EXTENSIVE BRAIN DAMAGE

I speak no english, calmly, Thursday, 21 April 2005 17:54 (eighteen years ago) link

TOOL are amazing! One thing i have to thank my ex girlfriend for is getting me into TOOL. They are one of the most psychedelic bands i have ever heard and the lyrics are ultra-intelligent too. Maynard's vocab is superb. The more prog the better. Aenema is one of my favourite albums and it has some serious psychedelic moments, especially on 'Pushit'. I fell in love with Lateralus when i first bought it. Theres that amazing quiet psychedelic chord sequence in 'Ticks and leeches'. And 'Lateralus' has an amazing riff, its all top quality drop D (Mostly) guitar work. I too have the Aenema hologram cd. Undertow is definitely the album u could call metal but the others i don't like to label them metal. I'd call them prog hard rock. So yeh, CLASSIC!

Morgman (Morg), Thursday, 21 April 2005 18:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Dud, they're just trying too hard to be taken seriously. Dull and dreary, wallowing in self-pity, writing "deep", "abstract" lyrics - they're the kind of band adolescents graduate to after 3 years of Limp Bizkit fandom and start really getting into the philosophy behind "The Matrix". And why they're considered metal in any way is still a mystery to me - not every rock band with loud guitars plays metal.

Siegbran (eofor), Thursday, 21 April 2005 19:12 (eighteen years ago) link

they're the kind of band adolescents graduate to after 3 years of Limp Bizkit fandom and start really getting into the philosophy behind "The Matrix"

But what if you got into them when you were 22 in 1993?

As for being metal or not, my ex said they reminded her of late eighties Metallica most of all.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 21 April 2005 19:14 (eighteen years ago) link

I just get incredibly depressed by Tool, and not in a good Esoteric/Swans/Joy Division/Darkthrone way. It's all so predicable, self-absorbed, calculated, easy, mindnumbing - lacking life in all possible ways.

Siegbran (eofor), Thursday, 21 April 2005 19:24 (eighteen years ago) link

'and why they're considered metal in any way is still a mystery to me - not every rock band with loud guitars plays metal.'

chuck eddy alert! lol.

anyway, yeah, technically they're more post-"grunge"/Jane's Addiction/Soundgarden/Helmet/alt-rawk or whatever. But seriously if they had first dropped in the 80's they WOULD be called metal, probably lumped in with proggy thrash like Voivod or something.

i've never found Tool 'lifeless' as Siegbran does. i think the main thing with the band is that even though they are a heavy rock band, they are very precise and controlled. there is very little chaos and anarchy in their sound. maybe that is why they can sound 'clinical', and that's probably too stick-up-the-ass for some people. but i think thats underestimating them as they can be surprisingly melodic and cathartic when you least expect them to be (at least for me).

but i enjoy tool probably now a lot more than i did when i was heavily into them as a teenager, because with listening to them now it's not so tied up with them as 'my band' and how that reinforces my identity.

annnnnyhoo, just giving my two cents worth.

latebloomer: But when the monkey die, people gonna cry. (latebloomer), Friday, 22 April 2005 04:17 (eighteen years ago) link

THEIR ALMNOST AS CLEVAR AS RAMMSTEIN!

Sasha (sgh), Friday, 22 April 2005 04:32 (eighteen years ago) link

hahahahahaha

latebloomer: But when the monkey die, people gonna cry. (latebloomer), Friday, 22 April 2005 04:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Sounds like your friend should have been wearing the shirt if that was the extent of his or her wit.
-- Ned Raggett (ne...), April 21st, 2005.

Ooooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhh, shhhhhhhhhhiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiittt!

(Dud.)

Dave M, Friday, 22 April 2005 06:42 (eighteen years ago) link

also in re: to metal, the first I ever heard of them was on Headbanger's Ball

Space Is the Place (Space Is the Place), Friday, 22 April 2005 13:48 (eighteen years ago) link

ten months pass...
Finally, something official about the new album: the name.

StanM (StanM), Friday, 3 March 2006 13:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Hmm, straightforward enough!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 3 March 2006 14:05 (eighteen years ago) link

10000 = 10⁴= reference to Nachman, Luzzato, Vilna Gaon, Israel ben Eliezer and the ten sephirah. embarrassingly obvious! im afraid Maynard has lost his touch

Yawn (Wintermute), Friday, 3 March 2006 16:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes, because all those names are on the tips of everyone's tongue all the time.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 3 March 2006 16:43 (eighteen years ago) link

"It's called The Leaving of the Twain."

"Well DUH, who wouldn't know the reference by the 19th century Serbo-Croatian author Djilas Vrensic."

"Uh..."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 3 March 2006 16:45 (eighteen years ago) link

its only natural for a Tool fan to know a thing or two about the qabbala. im not sure yet what "days" could mean. maybe 10⁴ = (5x2)⁴ = reference to the fourth sun nahui-atl that ended in a flood (!) which lasted 52 days... but i never thought of Maynard as an aztec eschatology kind of guy

Yawn (Wintermute), Friday, 3 March 2006 17:05 (eighteen years ago) link

oh and wrt to the thread question: classic

Yawn (Wintermute), Friday, 3 March 2006 17:07 (eighteen years ago) link

utterly classic

cutty (mcutt), Friday, 3 March 2006 17:08 (eighteen years ago) link

i forgot the last time i listened to one of their albums. maybe i'll pull "lateralus" out later to see how it's held up.

Christopher Costello (CGC), Friday, 3 March 2006 17:15 (eighteen years ago) link

its only natural for a Tool fan to know a thing or two about the qabbala.

...

Dan (O RLY?) Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 3 March 2006 17:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Dan says it so I don't have to.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 3 March 2006 17:16 (eighteen years ago) link

haha

Mickey (modestmickey), Saturday, 4 March 2006 06:14 (eighteen years ago) link

The post about the name is no longer on toolband.com. What does this dream mean?

A. Lingbert (A. Lingbert), Saturday, 4 March 2006 07:14 (eighteen years ago) link

Classic, but, Lateralus in particular is really hurt by the awful lyrics. Maynard crossed the line with that album. It doesn't help that the guy's also a total fucking arsehole.

Hat (Hat), Sunday, 5 March 2006 00:13 (eighteen years ago) link

The post about the name is no longer on toolband.com. What does this dream mean?
-- A. Lingbert (alingber...), March 4th, 2006 8:14 AM. (A. Lingbert) (link)

It was indeed gone, but now it's back!

03 Mar 06

JUST IN CASE YOU'RE INTERESTED...
The artwork for the upcoming Tool album is going to the separators/printers today, therefore it will eventually be leaked out that the name of the album is (drum roll.......) ' 10,000 days '

... so there it is.

StanM (StanM), Monday, 6 March 2006 12:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Tracklist:

Vicarious
Jambi
Wings For Marie (Pt 1)
10,000 Days (Wings Pt 2)
The Pot
Lipan Conjuring
Lost Keys (Blame Hofmann)
Rosetta Stoned
Intension
Right In Two
Viginti Tres

(Gentlemen, start your speculengines!)

StanM (StanM), Monday, 13 March 2006 12:05 (eighteen years ago) link

is this the front cover?

http://rateyourmusic.com/album_images/s527757.jpg

DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 13 March 2006 12:22 (eighteen years ago) link

apparently not

StanM (StanM), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 12:56 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.toolband.com/news/images/xmdays_logo.jpg

http://www.toolband.com/news/images/xmdays_mini_art.jpg

Plus 10 new promo shots of the band here. (!)

StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 12:48 (eighteen years ago) link

This is promo shot 02:

http://toolshed.down.net/pix/10k_promo/02.jpg

StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 12:50 (eighteen years ago) link

somewhat/almost in a nostalgic way but not quite-classic...not really but, hey...they've got FEW songs i can enjoy.

tool fans= the uber-dud of all duds! make ICP fans seem like low-key intellectuals.

eedd, Tuesday, 21 March 2006 20:58 (eighteen years ago) link

that cover looks pretty ionic.

Yawn (Wintermute), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 21:05 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm zo happy! < / Clowes, Pussey! )

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 21:13 (eighteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
Vicarious, the first single, is out there somewhere. 7 minutes of classic hypnotic Tool riffage, drummage and screamage (it's them, no doubt about it, no enormous style departures). Can't wait for the rest.

StanM (StanM), Monday, 17 April 2006 08:24 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah...it's ok. it sounds just like the last album.

latebloomer's jazz oddysey brought to you by kellog's corn flakes (latebloomer), Monday, 17 April 2006 08:30 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah not exactly catchy, is it

fez, Monday, 17 April 2006 08:36 (seventeen years ago) link

or: Tool fans will love it, Tool haterz will hate it. ^_^

StanM (StanM), Monday, 17 April 2006 08:56 (seventeen years ago) link

A friend once went to a Tool concert and reported afterwards that all Tool fans are somewhat overweight. When pressed to explain his theory, he said that all of the kids at the concert were packing some serious heft. The theory was not that overweight people are attracted to to Tool, but that Tool makes people overweight. After all, what else are you going to do while listening to an 80 minute long album besides make yourself a couple of banana and peanut butter sandwiches and some strawberry Quik?

M. Biondi (M. Biondi), Monday, 17 April 2006 11:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Also I have always been under the impression that maynard was extremely critical to the band and that he wrote the music and lyrics. if he doesn't actually write the music then he could easily go. I guess he kind of does that anyway since Pucifer is 10X more prolific than Tool.

akm, Sunday, 14 November 2021 03:54 (two years ago) link

I thought guitar riffs and bass lines are how Tool songs start out, then drums get written, with vocals being the last?

StanM, Sunday, 14 November 2021 05:40 (two years ago) link

Pretty sure Maynard is indeed the last thing added and has nothing to do with the music. They accumulate guitar, bass, drum ideas, refine and cobble them together over many months, then he adds vox and lyrics and song titles. I've seen a few interviews with the band where they admit they have to walk him through some of the tricky stuff to help him come up with lyrics and melodies that fit, and interviews with him where he'll finally come up with something but by the time he brings it to the band they've changed or otherwise rearranged the music. Sounds like a tough slog.

From what I understand about Rush it was almost the opposite. Neil would accumulate lyrics, Geddy and Alex would accumulate riffs and songs, Neil would give Geddy some lyrics, Geddy and Alex would collect their riffs and stuff and arrange them into songs, with Alex programming drums, then Neil would come in toward the end, listen to the demos and come up with his own drum parts. Then I think the band and producer would tinker further with arrangements. More of a full, equal collaboration.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 14 November 2021 14:27 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

Oh man Danny Carey pulled a cake boss pic.twitter.com/Fauu0rBQfu

— the ghost of txtmas past (@metaltxt) December 14, 2021

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 14 December 2021 16:32 (two years ago) link

Tool has a drummer?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 December 2021 16:41 (two years ago) link

"But I'm a tool!" "yeah buddy, arms behind your back"

StanM, Tuesday, 14 December 2021 17:10 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

this tour's setlist feels so refreshing after years of Schism/Stinkfist/Aenima/46&2/Parabol etc : https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/tool/2022/smoothie-king-center-new-orleans-la-b88396e.html

StanM, Sunday, 6 February 2022 13:08 (two years ago) link

(I love those songs, don't get me wrong)

StanM, Sunday, 6 February 2022 13:12 (two years ago) link

Part of the last rehearsal before the tour was streamed on instagram on "crap gear" & without Maynard: The Pot & The Patient

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6iJlmb-EcY

StanM, Sunday, 6 February 2022 13:17 (two years ago) link

They should do a club tour of just the three of them rehearsing on crap gear.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 6 February 2022 14:02 (two years ago) link

^

StanM, Sunday, 6 February 2022 14:36 (two years ago) link

The video of Danny Carey playing The Pot with those young music students is very endearing.

feed me with your clicks (Noel Emits), Sunday, 6 February 2022 16:15 (two years ago) link

then sharing The Pot with them afterwards

he's very big in the region of my butthole (Neanderthal), Sunday, 6 February 2022 16:15 (two years ago) link

ten months pass...

https://store.toolband.com/store

Fine art Foetus In Skull coming Dec 16th

StanM, Wednesday, 14 December 2022 20:21 (one year ago) link

https://www.fourtheye.net/2022/12/tool-fetus-in-skull-maquette-coming-soon/

I'm betting on "hella expensive"

StanM, Wednesday, 14 December 2022 20:37 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

The Beato interview with Danny Carey is great. It's remarkable that, according to Carey, he's never done any Tool drum tracking to a click, but I guess it makes sense, because how would that even work? He also offers the flipside to old people complaining about computer-perfect tempos in contemporary recordings, that some young people raised on quantized grid perfection might find the varying tempos of old stuff (from classical to classic rock) equally frustrating. I wonder.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 31 March 2024 13:05 (two weeks ago) link


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