POX: Steve Reich

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there's still time, LC. most of the events are tomorrow and Sunday.

zebedee (zebedee), Friday, 6 October 2006 16:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Actually "warm" and "sunny" are words I thought most people associate with Reich, while I can't imagine anyone referring to his work (other than the really early pieces) as "driven" or "caffeinated." It sounds like the journalist either only really knew his earliest work or was listening to Philip Glass instead.

Sundar (sundar), Friday, 6 October 2006 17:20 (seventeen years ago) link

(Hrm, I suppose I could see "Different Trains" or "Cello Counterpoint" being driven but it still seems like a weird general statement to make.)

Sundar (sundar), Friday, 6 October 2006 17:28 (seventeen years ago) link

there's still time, LC.

Alas, I'm at the wrong end of the country.

LC (Damian), Friday, 6 October 2006 20:52 (seventeen years ago) link

A Steve Reich POX is hard, as you'd probably need the box set to be selective in picking ten. I own and like a few of his albums, but an OPO would be more appropriate, as would a re-issue of that recording of Four Organs mentioned upthread.

LC (Damian), Friday, 6 October 2006 21:53 (seventeen years ago) link

For what it's worth, this is the tracklisting of the box set that's just come out, a POXIV, if you will (sorry):

Disc: 1
1. Music For 18 Musicians

Disc: 2
1. Different Trains
2. Tehillim
3. Eight Lines

Disc: 3
1. You Are
2. New York Counterpoint
3. Cello Counterpoint
4. Electric Counterpoint
5. Triple Quartet

Disc: 4
1. Come Out
2. Proverb
3. Desert Music

Disc: 5
1. Music For Mallet Instruments Voices And Organ
2. Drumming

LC (Damian), Friday, 6 October 2006 21:58 (seventeen years ago) link

1. Different Trains
2. Tehillim

this set is for us jews.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 6 October 2006 23:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Another Reich/Nonesuch box set? I had no idea the other one was out of print. This one seems rather arbitrary by comparison.

Anyway, my POX:

1. Eight Lines (Octet)
2. Four Organs (Bang on a Can) *
3. Four Organs (Reich/Gibson/Murphy/Chambers/Glass)
4. Music for 18 Musicians
5. Music for a Large Ensemble (12 78)
6. The Four Sections (Winds & Brass)
7. Phase Patterns
8. Piano Phase
9. Six Marimbas
10. Violin Phase (10 67)

(* Four Organs is my favorite Reich piece, but I haven't gotten around to collecting all the versions yet. Some purists seem to have a grudge against Bang on a Can's performance, so I'm assuming there are better versions that will take its place someday. In the meantime, though...)

Myke. (Myke Weiskopf), Friday, 6 October 2006 23:29 (seventeen years ago) link

This set sounds really inferior to buying things a la carte, although I guess that's easy to say as someone who has already heard a lot of Reich (though not everything).

R_S (RSLaRue), Friday, 6 October 2006 23:32 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't like "Four Organs" but it has some modern classical heavy hitters behind it on this thread. (I actually haven't heard it in a long time, possibly as long as a decade or more, so it's hard to say what I would think if I listened to it right now.)

R_S (RSLaRue), Friday, 6 October 2006 23:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I got the box in the mail and am digging it quite a bit. I'd never heard Music For 18 Musicians before; it's real purty-like.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Saturday, 7 October 2006 12:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Listening to the Nonesuch edition of 18 Musicians in the morning is slowly becoming a ritual for me.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Saturday, 7 October 2006 14:11 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm late to the 18 Musicians band-wagon and I can't figure out what took me so long to pick up this addictive masterpiece.

Jeff K (jeff k), Saturday, 7 October 2006 14:56 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm very surprised phil had never heard "...18 musicians"!

jed_ (jed), Saturday, 7 October 2006 15:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Me too, I think that might be my favorite Reich composition. (I'm very surprised I still haven't bought a recording of it.)

R_S (RSLaRue), Saturday, 7 October 2006 15:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Desert Music is my jam.

ramon fernandez (ramon fernandez), Sunday, 8 October 2006 04:59 (seventeen years ago) link

i know almost nuffink by him, but (or, therefore) i've been enjoying the little burst of reich retrospecting around this birthday. i caught the fresh air thing a few days ago, cobbled together from different interviews over the years, it was really interesting. i liked the anecdote about the woman beating her head on the stage during the performance of "four organs." i went and downloaded the "early works" album, which i've been digging. "it's gonna rain" is pretty genius. i'm tempted by the boxset for convenience sake, but maybe better to pick them up one by one.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 8 October 2006 05:56 (seventeen years ago) link

don't know why I forgot to bring this up before, but archive.org has an amazing radio show of early Reich, check it out here:

http://www.archive.org/details/ReichBerkeleyMuseum

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 8 October 2006 06:10 (seventeen years ago) link

I had a dream about Steve Reich last nite. Maria had written a new composition for him, he was her teacher, and she was really nervous about it, and then I had the great idea that I should get him to listen to black metal and write down his responses to what he had heard and i feverishly looked for stuff to play him, but then Terry Gross showed up and it was late so Steve and Terry ended up staying the night and sleeping in a big bed together and everyone kept saying "Reich" and laughing. Maria's music was really cool.

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 8 October 2006 09:52 (seventeen years ago) link

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chakra khan chakra khan (sanskrit), Sunday, 8 October 2006 22:56 (seventeen years ago) link

He has a MySpace?!

LC (Damian), Sunday, 8 October 2006 22:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Saw the performance at the Barbican last night - Daniel Variations is OK, Music for 18 Musicians was jaw-droppingly good.

toby (tsg20), Monday, 9 October 2006 07:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Wot! No love for 'Variations for Winds, Strings and Keyboards'? Time to remedy that...

1. Variations for Winds, Strings and Keyboards
2. 'The Cave of Machpelah' from the Cave
3. Different Trains
4. Vermont Counterpoint
5. Electric Counterpoint
6. Music for 18 Musicians
7. Duet for Two Violins and String Orchestra
8. Six Marimbas
9. 'Check it Out' (first movement of 'City Life')
10. Eight Lines

Reich is someone who I always thought didn't really have that extensive a back catalogue, but POX made me realise how much I had to leave out. Honourable mention for 'Electric Guitar Phase' though which has the same kind of visceral thrill as Branca's 'Lesson for Electric Guitar no.1'

Massive reception for the performance of '18' at the Barbican last night BTW.

avery keen-gardner (avery keen-gardner), Monday, 9 October 2006 08:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Daniel Variations is OK

Would you care to expand, toby? What's the set up, instrumentation etc? Does Reich try any new ideas out?

Jeff W (zebedee), Monday, 9 October 2006 09:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I think toby's understating a bit - I thought Danical Variations was really good (and I'm usually not keen on Reich's vocal works). It's scored for 4 voices (2M, 2F I think), 4x strings (may have been a normal quartet, although I actually seem to remember it being 3x violin + 1x cello), 2x clarinet, 4x piano, 4x vibes, plus a gong and a bass drum (or maybe two bass drums). There are four movements, which all run into each other. 1 and 3 are based around a handful of minor dominant chords, while 2 and 4 are based around their relative major dominants. 1 and 3 use texts from the book of daniel, 2 and 4 use quotations from daniel pearl (the second an indirect one, also referencing Stuff Smith). And it works really nicely.

Actually, instead of trying to describe this from memory, maybe I should dig out the programme and post the notes from there.

JimD (JimD), Monday, 9 October 2006 16:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Here you go:

About Daniel Variations, the composer writes:

The piece is in four movements using texts from the Biblical book of Daniel for the first and third movements and from the words of Daniel Pearl, the American Jewish reporter, kidnapped and murdered by Islamist extremists in Pakistan in 2002, for the second and fourth movements.

The first text, from the fourth chapter of the book of Daniel, is spoken by Nebuchadnezzar, king of Babylon (modern-day Iraq). He is asking Daniel to interpret his dream of terror Right now it is unfortunately possible to feel a chill of identification with these words.

The second text was spoken by Daniel Pearl while his captors videotaped him: 'My name is Daniel Pearl. I'm a Jewish American from Encino California.' I use only the first five words in the music itself since the statement is so emblematic of this remarkable person. In Jewish tradition, and in many others, names are indicative of character.

The third text is the Biblical Daniel's response to Nebuchadnezzar.

The last text is a bit of a surprise and s explained by a friend of Daniel Pearl as follows: 'Once during a two day bike trip up the Potomac River, his friend Tom Jennings asked about his belief in an afterlife. "I don't know" Danny replied. "I don't have answers, mainly just questions." Then he added. But I sure hope Gabriel likes my music." After Danny died Tom was going through his friend's vinyl collection (Dvorak, Liszt, Miles Davis, REM) and stumbled across this album: Stuff Smith and the Onyx Club Orchestra. "Danny loved Stuff Smith - a great jazz violinist" Tom says. "Here on side A, track 3, I found this: Stuff Smith playing I Hope Gabriel Likes My Music." '

I have not used any of the music or lyrics of the song and have even added to the title. I hope Danny would approve.

Musically, Daniel Variations has two related harmonic ground plans. One for the first and third movements uses four minor dominant chords a minor third apart, in E minor, G minor, B flat minor and C sharp minor. The other harmonic plan is for the second and fourth movements and uses four major dominant chords in the relative major dominant keys, G, B flat, D flat and E. This gives a darker chromatic harmony to the first and third movements and a more affirmative harmonic underpinning to the second and fourth. Since Daniel Pearl was not only reporter, but also played the fiddle - particularly jazz and blue grass - the strings take the lead melodically in the second and fourth movements, sometimes doubled by the two clarinets.

The piece is scored for two sopranos and two tenors with two B flat clarinets, four vibes, bass and kick drum, tam-tam, four pianos and string quartet. The London performance is dedicated to the 5th Daniel Pearl World Music Days, 6-15 October.

Text
1. I saw a dream. Images upon my bed and visions in my head frightened me.
2. My name is Daniel Pearl. I'm a Jewish American from Encino, California.
3. Let the dream fall back on the dreaded
4. I sure hope Gabriel likes my music, when the day is done.

JimD (JimD), Monday, 9 October 2006 17:25 (seventeen years ago) link

cheers, Jim

Jeff W (zebedee), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 09:50 (seventeen years ago) link

thanks jim, much more informative than i could have been. i don't think the second sentence of the 2nd text was sung, fwiw. this was the first reich piece with a text that i've heard, and i thought it worked quite well, but something wasn't quite right - it was maybe too beautiful, too easy?

that said, i've had the "my name is daniel pearl" part stuck in my head ever since.

toby (tsg20), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 19:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Anyone going to the performance on the 21st?

roc u like a § (ex machina), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 21:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Steve Reich special on Freak Zone this week:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/shows/freakzone/tracklisting_20061022.shtml

TWO HOUR STEVE REICH SPECIAL
Steve Reich - It's Gonna Rain
Junior Walker & The All Stars - Shotgun
John Coltrane - Africa
John Coltrane - Brass
Steve Reich - Four Organs
Steve Reich - Drumming (parts 4 and 5)
Steve Reich - Music For 18 Musicians
Steve Reich - Tehillim
Steve Reich - Different Trains
Steve Reich - You Are Wherever Your Thoughts Are

Koogy Yonderboy (koogs), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 12:07 (seventeen years ago) link

I listend to some of that Freak Zone and ordered this thing called Phases which is 5 CDs' worth and cost about £12.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 07:27 (seventeen years ago) link

11 Reich classics, plus pieces from Caleb Burhans and Michael Gordon available for download from the Whitney museum at the moment:

http://whitney.org/www/exhibition/stevereich.jsp

Some annoying commentary between tracks, but great performances. All recorded from the recent 70th birthday Reich-athon at the Whitney.

Tim Rutherford-Johnson (Rambler), Thursday, 26 October 2006 10:49 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

This really deserves to be seen:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wkVXxRf8Pw

Piano Phase pt. 1 with choreography. I'm sure it's not everyone's thing, but watching 7:50-8:15 (that smile!) after all that came before it is really moving.

Z S, Saturday, 26 January 2008 16:01 (sixteen years ago) link

There is a pt. 2 as well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpURYG2F2ug

I would love a DVD of this.

Z S, Saturday, 26 January 2008 16:15 (sixteen years ago) link

that said, i've had the "my name is daniel pearl" part stuck in my head ever since.

still stuck in there! i think about this piece several times most weeks, it just randomly comes to me. really wish there was a recording so i could hear it a second time.

toby, Saturday, 26 January 2008 16:39 (sixteen years ago) link

five months pass...

Starting to think Four Organs is my favourite. I know what Toby means, I had the "From Chicago" bit of Different trains in my head for months

I know, right?, Saturday, 12 July 2008 23:05 (fifteen years ago) link

two years pass...

so, i entered a steve reich remix context, and NOW the voting starts:

http://www.indabamusic.com/submissions/show/32325

please check it out, and if you like, vote for mine!!

Dominique, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 14:58 (thirteen years ago) link

thanks!!!

Dominique, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 15:34 (thirteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

congrats dominique

midiverb II program 49 (electricsound), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 22:38 (thirteen years ago) link

awesome

hubertus bigend (m coleman), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 22:42 (thirteen years ago) link

how'd that BBC interview go

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 22:52 (thirteen years ago) link

hey thanks!

milton, got andrea w to help

Dominique, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 23:11 (thirteen years ago) link

whoa fuckin a dude congrats!

69, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 23:15 (thirteen years ago) link

we came 34th haha

midiverb II program 49 (electricsound), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 23:23 (thirteen years ago) link

four months pass...

the 75th birthday concert at carnegie hall was short but sweet. so percussion did "mallets," kronos quartet did "wtc 9/11," bang on a can did an awesome "2 X 5," and eighth blackbird closed out with a not so bad "double sextet." the only thing that put me to sleep was "wtc 9/11," which is a shame since it was a premiere. oh well. sometimes i couldn't help wondering either why every piece has to have a slow middle movement, and what mike oldfield makes of reich. anyways it felt good to applaud the old fella applauding us back at the end of the show

reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 1 May 2011 13:50 (twelve years ago) link

>what mike oldfield makes of reich

1978's 'Incantations' was pretty much an answer record to Oldfield discovering Reich. And then the next record had that disco cover of Glass' 'North Star'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyjPL_o0fjc

Milton Parker, Sunday, 1 May 2011 18:34 (twelve years ago) link

I heard an interview with Reich this week and he said the premier of WTC 9/11 was in North Carolina but this was to be the first performance in NYC.

brotherlovesdub, Sunday, 1 May 2011 20:20 (twelve years ago) link

milton that song is bizarre! thanks for posting it. i wonder where "2 X 5" premiered. this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fapq0H--lME
kinda gives an idea of how frippy a guitar symphony can be. nothing like seeing it live though. all sorts of crusty oldsters were rocking out. can't believe the guy's in his 70s and making music that sounds a little like battles

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 2 May 2011 13:58 (twelve years ago) link

Phase Patterns is the one that was a couple rungs below damn near life changing for me, I like almost everything I’ve heard by him but it all ends up paling in comparison just because that was such a mind shattering event hearing it for the first time. If you’ve heard anything else by him it probably wouldn’t have the same impact though.

Slim is an Alien, Thursday, 25 January 2024 22:24 (two months ago) link

Music for Mallet Instruments, Voices and Organ & Music for a Large Ensemble were written around the same time and share a lot of the same vibe as Music for 18 musicians

bbq, Friday, 26 January 2024 06:32 (two months ago) link

"Octet / Music For A Large Ensemble / Violin Phase" on ECM is up there with M418M for me.

Against The 80s, Friday, 26 January 2024 08:24 (two months ago) link

another vote for Drumming

budo jeru, Friday, 26 January 2024 16:07 (two months ago) link

yeah Drumming is 'the one' for me also

Deflatormouse, Friday, 26 January 2024 18:59 (two months ago) link

Besides MF18M, the albums I return to are Different Trains/Electric Counterpoint (the latter is the one that the Orb's "Little Fluffy Clouds" samples) and Double Sextet/2x5.

jaymc, Saturday, 27 January 2024 05:35 (two months ago) link

‘eight lines’ is gorgeous

donna rouge, Saturday, 27 January 2024 06:01 (two months ago) link

Some of his pieces have a musical documentary feel about them, most of these feature a clever device in which he transcribes short clips of speech into notes to be tracked alongside with an instrument, cello, or violin usually.

You realise how much music is embedded in our everyday speech patterns, Different Trains and the startling WTC 9/11 are great examples of that method.

MaresNest, Saturday, 27 January 2024 11:46 (two months ago) link

I would like to recommend Tehillim, I feel it's where you can hear his 'human' touch the most; it's also available as the full ECM Recordings boxset with Mf18M, Octet, Violin Phase & MfLE.

ˈʌglɪɪst preɪ, Saturday, 27 January 2024 18:48 (two months ago) link

Oh Tehillim is one of my favorite pieces of music of all time, it can drive me to tears. But I think Map was looking for the more long-form trancelike world of Reich.

Anyhoo, Steve Reich is the guest of honor at this year’s Long Play Festival in Brooklyn, put on by the Bang on a Can organization. Among other works, including M418M, the Mivos Quartet will do his complete works for string quartet, including Different Trains.

B. Amato (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 27 January 2024 20:03 (two months ago) link

Oh and Drumming will be performs too. I’ve never seen that one performed live. (I saw a local new music group in DC perform M418M several years ago).

B. Amato (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 27 January 2024 20:05 (two months ago) link

A great in-depth interview with @SteveReich in @FT @FinancialTimes today, in which the composer talks about his early life, obsession with Stravinsky, and recent inspirations.
Read here: https://t.co/GX2l9XcYTO pic.twitter.com/4zD8Gjc1qg

— Steve Reich (@SteveReich) February 2, 2024

underwater as a compliment (Eazy), Sunday, 4 February 2024 05:03 (two months ago) link

"There is brunch-friendly soft rock music being piped in, and on the pre­vi­ous even­ing the mall hos­ted a live per­form­ance by an Eagles cover band. But Reich, dressed in dark tones and wear­ing his sig­na­ture dark base­ball cap, has come for the waffles, not the music."

underwater as a compliment (Eazy), Sunday, 4 February 2024 05:14 (two months ago) link

It would be funny if he refused to talk about anything but waffles

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 4 February 2024 18:27 (two months ago) link

Glad the article clarified that point, would have definitely expected him to be the type of guy who goes out to breakfast for the soft rock soundtrack and the lore of yesterday’s Eagles cover band

Slim is an Alien, Sunday, 4 February 2024 18:39 (two months ago) link

“What do I want? I want life, I want the music to be played, I want the music to be listened to. I want to know people have felt things,” he says. “I’m very grateful that my music has been listened to and appreciated. It’s a great source of happiness.”

Damn I guess success does bring happiness, get stuffed 'making art should be its own reward' people.

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Sunday, 4 February 2024 21:53 (two months ago) link


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