Am I REALLY the only person here who really likes St Anger??

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ha ha

nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 16:39 (twenty years ago) link

No, seriously. This is getting worrying. I mean, we're just not prepared in any way shape or form. What are we without technology to aid us in our ongoing quest to build a missile so huge it could destroy our sun? One of things that really bugs me about living in this age is that I'll probably never see the day that several millenia of misogyny finally come to an end when man sticks a huge ballistic rod in its sustaining star. Oh well, musn't grumble.

Lynskey (Lynskey), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 16:39 (twenty years ago) link

Then again, looking at peoples attitudes ProTools I doubt we'd ever have the bollocks to go through with it. Face it people, there's two choices here. One, die with our hands around our throats in a sea of toxic air and concrete. Two, go out like the movie Armageddon except WE PLAY THE ASTEROID. Which sounds best to you?

Lynskey (Lynskey), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 16:43 (twenty years ago) link

Can't we go out like the movie D3: The Mighty Ducks? Quietly and on VHS.

Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 16:46 (twenty years ago) link

Seems like the album has already sank, virtually without a trace.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 17:56 (twenty years ago) link

How much does fucking Lars rock on this record?

calstars (calstars), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 18:16 (twenty years ago) link

1011011011

Lynskey (Lynskey), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 19:21 (twenty years ago) link

Two's complement, three's a crowd.

Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 19:32 (twenty years ago) link

one year passes...
over a year later, and I still like it. Just put it on to get myself psyched up for the DVD release of Some Kind of Monster. It's going to be one of those records that is recognized, ten years from now, for being far better than people gave it credit for upon release.

Overbite (Roger Fidelity), Monday, 10 January 2005 01:27 (nineteen years ago) link

I have my doubts. I am glad that Spinal Tap II: Electric Boogaloo is about out on DVD, though.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 10 January 2005 01:35 (nineteen years ago) link

i just know that the song on the radio sounded like shit

latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 10 January 2005 02:04 (nineteen years ago) link

maybe in ten years they'll cut out all of the cut'n'pasted parts and give us the real, 15 minute version of the album. and then we'll all agree, overlooked, a lost classic, etc.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Monday, 10 January 2005 04:58 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
You guys are way off. Metallica's St. Anger is their hardest-rocking, most ground-breaking album ever. Period. If it's too loud or aggressive for you, slide on over the easy-listening section: I'm sure there's something for you there.

Red Wolf, Sunday, 23 April 2006 22:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Where you will find lars,james and kirk?

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Sunday, 23 April 2006 22:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Lynskey on this thread...roffle

latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 23 April 2006 22:54 (seventeen years ago) link

The record is Metallica trying to recapture the rebellion of their youth only they completely forgot how. It's like the Midlife Crisis album. I wish they would have just bought a Porche and banged the babysitter instead.

Brian O'Neill (NYCNative), Monday, 24 April 2006 02:47 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm so happy that i've always hated metallica.

Christopher Costello (CGC), Monday, 24 April 2006 05:27 (seventeen years ago) link

you should be sad. master of puppets and ride the lightning are better than probably anything else you listen to.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 24 April 2006 05:30 (seventeen years ago) link

not knocking your taste, just saying, those are killer albums.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 24 April 2006 05:31 (seventeen years ago) link

I panned this album as a pitiful stab at reclaiming lost glory when it first came out, but I've grown to actually admire it and, with the exception of four genuinely awful songs, really dig it. As someone else here said, the first three songs are all amazing. And I agree with Roger: The drumming here is astonishing, and I think the sound is appropriate given the exercise, a breathtaking statement of purpose. The downside of published criticism: It often doesn't account for the luxury of repeated listens.

That said, the record still isn't anywhere close to Ride the Lightning and ... And Justice For All.

Chris O., Monday, 24 April 2006 05:37 (seventeen years ago) link

i like some of the lyrics on this album quite a bit. "my life style, determines my death style". nice! my "death style"! nice!

DEEDS NOT WORDS (vahid), Monday, 24 April 2006 05:38 (seventeen years ago) link

some kind of monster is one good thing coming out of this debacle, i'll admit.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 24 April 2006 05:44 (seventeen years ago) link

The lyrics kind of suck, actually, especially if you've seen the documentary and realize how they a lot of them were written. But musically, tis magnifique.

Chris O., Monday, 24 April 2006 05:46 (seventeen years ago) link

three years pass...

I RAGE I GLAZE I HURT I HATE I HATE IT ALL WHY WHY WHY ME I CANNOT SLEEP WITH A HEAD LIKE THIS I WANNA CRY I WANNA SCREAM

ksh, Wednesday, 14 April 2010 05:09 (fourteen years ago) link

Then again, looking at peoples attitudes ProTools I doubt we'd ever have the bollocks to go through with it. Face it people, there's two choices here. One, die with our hands around our throats in a sea of toxic air and concrete. Two, go out like the movie Armageddon except WE PLAY THE ASTEROID. Which sounds best to you?

― Lynskey (Lynskey), Tuesday, November 11, 2003 4:43 PM (6 years ago) Bookmark

fuckin' lame, bros (latebloomer), Wednesday, 14 April 2010 05:24 (fourteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

re-listening to this now in toto on YouTube and, man, for all its faults i like this record a lot

ksh, Monday, 3 May 2010 03:51 (thirteen years ago) link

St. Anger sucked because it essentially sounded like James, Lars, and Kirk got snowed in from a vacation trip, and James suggested everyone pick up their instruments and jam for a little while, and then they decided to turn the tape recorder on, and oh then they decidedto release it as an album.

The tracks are all overlong, for no apparent reason, as it is not like most of the songs don't beat the same few riffs into the ground over and over rather than adding some colorful bridges or interludes. James's voice still sounds awful -- after he gave up the vocal coach his grunt 'n roar turned into a croak 'n yodel because he fucked up his voice and now he's got the most annoying voice on the planet.

The album was a gimmick, ostensibly Metallica saying they were "returning to their roots" merely because they're recording something loud and heavy, of course forgetting that the garage-band post-thrash they were playing was in not in the same league at their old material.

Some of the songs just had outright weird songwriting. I mean "Invisible Kid" must have the oddest, least catchy metal chorus ever committed to audio. "Some Kind of Monster" meanders nauseatingly for way too long without any type of hook. "Frantic"'s chorus has an odd vocal harmony to it which makes little sense in context of the song. Truth be told, the only two songs I could say I "liked" on this album were "Dirty Window" (which actually did rock a little) and the title track, even though I know deep down I shouldn't have liked that one.

It should also be noted that I'm not a big fan of Death Magnetic. It's certainly a big improvement and contains actual songs, but James still sounds awful and I still find the songwriting to be quite boring. I'm convinced that Metallica forgot how to write music years ago and forged an elaborate plan to deliberately get so terrible that years later, a mediocre album would be touted as their critically acclaimed return to form by principle of relativity.

If You Ain't Gonna Wash It, I Ain't Gonna Eat It (Cattle Grind), Monday, 3 May 2010 04:25 (thirteen years ago) link

This album is nowhere nearas bad as people make it out to be. Not great by any stretch, but it has its moments. Plus it's a fascinating listen today, because we all know now it's the sound of a band so hopelessly, creatively lost, and that everything all came to a head on an incredible mess of a record.

Although Death Magnetic is a very good album, St. Anger would be a lot more fun to dissect.

A. Begrand, Monday, 3 May 2010 04:45 (thirteen years ago) link

completely w/ Adrien 100%.

i listened to this straight through last night and, man, it's such a weird piece of work, and for all the cringeworthy aspects of it, i still really like it

ksh, Monday, 3 May 2010 19:27 (thirteen years ago) link

you deserve a medal for making it through the whole thing. i only managed that a few times before I sold it.

If You Ain't Gonna Wash It, I Ain't Gonna Eat It (Cattle Grind), Monday, 3 May 2010 21:56 (thirteen years ago) link

I haven't listened to it straight through since their publicist played it for me at the Elektra offices.

Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Monday, 3 May 2010 22:11 (thirteen years ago) link

irl lols & clapping my hands @ Phil's post

definitely not something i'm interested in doing every day, or even every few months, really, but it was nice to revisit. i remember being so excited for its coming out way back in 2003. man, it has its moments

ksh, Monday, 3 May 2010 22:22 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost -- And were you both suppressing giggles?

Ned Raggett, Monday, 3 May 2010 22:23 (thirteen years ago) link

Get the fuck out of here
I just wanna get the fuck away from me
I rage, I glaze, I hurt, I hate
I hate it all, why why why me?

I cannot sleep with a head like this
I wanna cry, I wanna scream
I rage, I glaze, I hurt, I hate
I wanna hate it all away

ksh, Monday, 3 May 2010 22:26 (thirteen years ago) link

That reads like a Raunchy Young Lepers parody of a Metallica song.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 3 May 2010 22:27 (thirteen years ago) link

Hurry up and hate me now
Kill all within my hands again

Kill kill kill kill kill
Kill kill kill kill kill
Kill kill kill kill kill
Kill kill kill kill kill
Kill kill kill kill kill
Kill kill kill
Kill kill kill kill
Kill kill kill kill kill
KILL

ksh, Monday, 3 May 2010 22:29 (thirteen years ago) link

When it came out I was all "Oh what the hell, let's give Metallica another chance!" -- but wow it is truly a turd. Sorry to anyone defending it, but it was like the worst metal album of the decade IMO.

Viceroy of the Daleks (Viceroy), Monday, 3 May 2010 22:30 (thirteen years ago) link

http://images.philsfiles.info/napster-lars.jpg

ksh, Monday, 3 May 2010 22:31 (thirteen years ago) link

before Wilco became my favorite band -- which they really aren't anymore -- Metallica was my favorite band, and St. Anger was their first real studio record i was really, really anticipating. i don't remember what my initial reaction was, but i'll still rep for it, even if i completely agree that it's something of a disaster. that's part of its allure to me, though

ksh, Monday, 3 May 2010 22:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Hurry up and hate me now
Kill all within my hands again

what the

it means "EMOTIONAL"! (HI DERE), Monday, 3 May 2010 22:33 (thirteen years ago) link

before Wilco became my favorite band -- which they really aren't anymore -- Metallica was my favorite band

I am trying to imagine this arc and failing.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 3 May 2010 22:34 (thirteen years ago) link

he must have very large hands if he can fit people within them

it means "EMOTIONAL"! (HI DERE), Monday, 3 May 2010 22:34 (thirteen years ago) link

hahahahaha

ksh, Monday, 3 May 2010 22:35 (thirteen years ago) link

"YEAAARRRGH METALLICA"

*hears St. Anger*

"...I want to listen to Jeff Tweedy's whining ass."

Ned Raggett, Monday, 3 May 2010 22:35 (thirteen years ago) link

Get that away from me.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 3 May 2010 22:38 (thirteen years ago) link

before mid-2004, i mostly listened to Metallica, Staind, and whatever nu-metal, pop, and rap was on MTV & the radio. my best friend at the time was a much bigger music nerd than i was, and he got me into a lot of stuff. also, i remember reading about Wilco's A ghost is born, Bjork's Medulla and some other stuff that summer, and it was all over the place from there for me

ksh, Monday, 3 May 2010 22:38 (thirteen years ago) link

glad we're able to bring St. Anger and Wilco together in the same thread

ksh, Monday, 3 May 2010 22:39 (thirteen years ago) link

who is James Hetfield to dictate the schedule in which someone hates him

If You Ain't Gonna Wash It, I Ain't Gonna Eat It (Cattle Grind), Monday, 3 May 2010 22:39 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcDZOaeW0sE

ksh, Monday, 3 May 2010 22:41 (thirteen years ago) link

the only songs i really fuck w/ from this one are the title track and Dirty Window

BIG YNGWIE aka the malmsteendriver (Neanderthal), Saturday, 7 May 2011 04:43 (twelve years ago) link

six years pass...

anybody else heard this? the songwriting still sucks but this cover version is way better than the real thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lU-UI3_6HcM

Neanderthal, Saturday, 22 July 2017 20:51 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

over a year later, and I still like it. Just put it on to get myself psyched up for the DVD release of Some Kind of Monster. It's going to be one of those records that is recognized, ten years from now, for being far better than people gave it credit for upon release.
― Overbite (Roger Fidelity), lunes 10 de enero de 2005 1:27 (twelve years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It's been twelve years and people still think this is fucking terrible

dance cum rituals (Moka), Friday, 11 August 2017 00:45 (six years ago) link

yeah but look at who made the original statement

Neanderthal, Friday, 11 August 2017 00:46 (six years ago) link

The drum sound is ace, best idea they had in years.
― Siegbran (eofor)

...

Karl Malone, Friday, 11 August 2017 00:53 (six years ago) link

Hahaha I kind of like the drums. Not the sound obviously they sound like shit. But how insane it is to release them like this, they were probably just exhausted and said fuck it.

dance cum rituals (Moka), Friday, 11 August 2017 01:01 (six years ago) link

they're right on the verge of so bad they're good, but they didn't quite get there

Karl Malone, Friday, 11 August 2017 01:05 (six years ago) link

four years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0NX1VLUa0w

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 July 2022 14:39 (one year ago) link

nine months pass...

last few years must've made me dumber bc i kinda love this album now

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 5 May 2023 13:54 (eleven months ago) link

the riffs are just so gnarly

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 5 May 2023 13:57 (eleven months ago) link

- "Legendary album. Panned by critics and fans when it was released, but has stood the tests of time to become known as one of their greatest."

- "No kidding. Makes you almost forget that Lou Reed was once in another band."

- "Lou Reed? What album are you talking about?"

pplains, Friday, 5 May 2023 16:32 (eleven months ago) link

lol i'm glad i'm not the only one who does that

budo jeru, Friday, 5 May 2023 18:51 (eleven months ago) link

yeah I haven’t dug deep into this album but it certainly isn’t bad. I’ve really 180d on load, too.

brimstead, Friday, 5 May 2023 22:11 (eleven months ago) link

well maybe not 180 maybe more like 90-120

brimstead, Friday, 5 May 2023 22:12 (eleven months ago) link

Now that they've made plenty of returns to thrash, I think we can all admit that they were really trying with the songwriting on Load and there are some monster hooks.

Random Restaurateur (Jordan), Friday, 5 May 2023 22:14 (eleven months ago) link

four months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsK_YrRoByY

ivy., Wednesday, 6 September 2023 19:13 (seven months ago) link


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