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Orbital's new album doesn't sound dated. It sounds pants, apart from about three tracks. David Gray? Why?! WHY?!!

Great art transcends it's status as a commodity, and probably it's chronological creation also.

Sly Stone stilkl sounds fresh to me, so does Aphex Twin's ealy ambient stuff, just 'cos it's wicked.

― Nick Southall, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Yeah, "Selected Ambient Works 85-92" could come out today and much of it would still be mindblowing. But I don't think that's because it's "art" vs. generic dancefloor fare. I think it's more that the music strenuously avoided any references to anything else going on at that point - the music has this really greyscale featurelessness/genrelessness about it - and the sequel album even more so. Also the pure strain of ambient it peddles (none of the eco-bliss trappings of balearic/chill out, much closer to Eno) has been around for so long and has been so stylistically consistent that it's virtually impossible to "date" the music, much less find it dated.

This sort of timelessness is not necessarily a good thing though: the same could be said of house music, which up until very recently had not done anything particularly new in ages. Is this a good thing? I'm not so sure. Compare and contrast with hardcore/early jungle, which was literally built out of cross-referencing with other contemporary productions, and all the better for it I say.

― Tim, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

hey what about "my red hot car" specificially...i hought it wasnt up to much really. his 'take' on garage? just sounded like: someoone who "hates garage" trying to take the piss out of it a bit, but ending up with something way below the standard of what he is trying to parody, in terms of production anyway.

even if theres no irony intended, it still isnt particualy exciting for me.

i just found it strange that all these (warp-type) people did exciting radical things a few years ago, in terms of beat production, but when r'n'b + garage started to go way ahead, they sort of refused to take it seriusoly and carried on produced the stuff they had been for ages....'selection sixteen"???

but its not bad....

― ambrose, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Yeah, the funny thing with "My Red Hot Car" is how late it is - four years after the first fully-formed 2-step tracks. Makes drill & bass's two year timelag seem quite respectable by comparison.

Actually, there was a 2-step homage prior to "My Red Hot Car" - Beta Band's "Sequinsizer", which also managed to be a much better record in and of itself.

― Tim, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

it sucks.

― ethan, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Welcome back Ethan, if that's you!

― Robin Carmody, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

This may be of interest - a couple of weeks ago AFX delivered a double album to Warp, for release later in the year. He's not rewriting the book on UK garage, it's quiet and still, similar to Ambient Works 2, if anything.

― K-reg, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

it is indeed, robin. thanks for the welcoming back. i'm ploddingly taking in the huge amount of ilm backlog from my absence, but rest assured i'll be catching up as soon as i can. hello again you wonderful people!

(er, clarification of my thoughts on the new squarepusher: it all sounds the same, unlike feed me weird things, which is rather ecletic and is also glorious. 'my red hot car' reminds me of 'windowlicker' which of course is a far better song.)

― ethan, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Cool, Ethan is back.

― Patrick, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

EVERYONE LOVES ME

topics i am posting about far too much on my heralded return: 1) the new squarepusher's abject suckiness 2) the new plaid's abject prettiness. but it's okay because I LOVE EVERYONE.

― ethan, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

four months pass...

has anyone heard the new untitled 12"?? i heard its really good, but i'm dubious. i don't want to get burned again!

― gareth, Tuesday, 4 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

First time I heard the new 12" track (on the radio) I thought it was pure awesomeness. Found it online, listened, thought, "is this the same track? it's not nearly as good as I remember." Listened a bit more, and I think it's pretty good, not as fantastic as I remember but all right. If you liked Red Hot Car then you'll probably like it even if you didn't like the rest of Go Plastic, it's got the mashedup breaks except without the garage vibe, and there's some nice slightly Chris-Clark-ish synths. Still, I preferred RHC... warmer, more exciting, catchier. I don't know, I'm rubbish at describing and reviewing stuff.

Over the Squarepusher vibe? I don't much care for the jazzy bits, but I am so not over drill'n'bass. I sulk at the mere implication it might be outdated, because if I ever release anything in the foreseeable future that's roughly where I'll be. Hopefully Hrvatski will get round to releasing the album he's been promising for ages and show all the drill'n'bass-haters how wrong they are. :)

― Rebecca, Tuesday, 4 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Hrvatski's new album is coming out next year on planet-mu, mike paradinas' label. i don't think there has been a definite release date set, yet, but i'm guessing march or april.

― todd burns, Tuesday, 4 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

god what a cunt i sound like upthread.

― ethan, Tuesday, 4 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

squarepusher owns!

― chaki, Tuesday, 4 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

one month passes...

You are all stupid fucking cunts. Squarepusher was just rinsing his analogue shit. Wait for the best to come.

again you are all pricks

― Phil Thompson, Thursday, 24 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

sorry phil. no offence intended!

― gareth, Thursday, 24 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

twenty years pass...

Everyone stil enjoying those old DAT Politics records here in the future?

Go Plastic rools.

― feed me with your clicks (Noel Emits), Thursday, 5 May 2022 09:42 (two years ago) link

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