Devo: C or D? S & D etc.

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When did they do that DOVE performance? I'm guessing that's when they did "You Gotta Serve Somebody"

The Man they call Dan (The Man they call Dan), Friday, 9 May 2003 01:09 (twenty years ago) link

Goin' Under.
Love Without Anger.
Snowball.
Words Get Stuck In My Throat.
Gates of Steel.

Devo were great. Underrated guitar player, too.

rumple, Friday, 9 May 2003 01:46 (twenty years ago) link

When did they do that DOVE performance?

You can google it.

Try Wikipedia.

"Devo actively embraced the Church of the SubGenius in the early 1980s. In concert, Devo often performed as the opening band for themselves, pretending to be a Christian soft-rock group called "Dove (the Band of Love)". They also recorded "E-Z Listening Muzak" versions of their own songs to play before their concerts. In 2001, members of Devo formed the surf band The Wipeouters, claiming that it was actually a reunion of the first gararge band they formed while in their early teens."

V

V (1411), Friday, 9 May 2003 02:46 (twenty years ago) link

six months pass...
Holy shit...

I just bought the reissue of 'The Complete Truth About...' on a loan (tee-hee!), and I've been scarred for life just by going through it in a hurry. Has anybody seen that "Through Being Cool" video? Two words: BRAIN DAMAGE (in a good way... like LSD, ya know!). Everybody should see this should they have the chance, now that it's on DVD. Being drugged outta your mind would probably help also. It is surprisingly disturbing, moreso than you would expect... even for someone like me.

Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 23:44 (twenty years ago) link

one year passes...
fuck so many wrong pastes

http://www.newsobserver.com/lifestyles/story/2261615p-8641132c.html

The Scottish Restauranteer (ex machina), Saturday, 9 April 2005 17:38 (nineteen years ago) link

Some of their videos used to creep me out a bit..."We're Through Being Cool" and also "Love without Anger" (I think) with the valentine's chocolate box filled with worms....

Joe (Joe), Sunday, 10 April 2005 13:20 (nineteen years ago) link

That's the one. The DVD comp Francis mentions up there is essential -- it's a rerelease of the laserdisc they did in the early nineties and it's pretty damned great.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 10 April 2005 13:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Search: Hardcore Devo Vol. 2
the hardest of the hardcore...

The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Sunday, 10 April 2005 13:45 (nineteen years ago) link

HAHAHAHA, so that guy was/is in Silica Gel? I had their Seeland records release at a certain point. Don't the Silica Gel guys master in collecting old 50s and 60s school PSA films in the Tri area of NC? Or is that another group of folks? I know there's a big Negativland/Triangle-area-North-Carolina connection somewhere.

donut debonair (donut), Sunday, 10 April 2005 20:35 (nineteen years ago) link

five months pass...
devo performed by 17 year olds = CLASSIC

evidence here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/chattycathy7575/sets/938749/

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 15 September 2005 14:14 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeh? How about 5th Graders?
The Video: http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2679592?showw=no&refsite=6721&htv=12&htv=12

Bobby Peru (Bobby Peru), Thursday, 15 September 2005 18:21 (eighteen years ago) link

OMG, my head just exploded from all the preciousness on this thread.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 15 September 2005 18:48 (eighteen years ago) link

preciousness?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 15 September 2005 18:55 (eighteen years ago) link

"Words get stuck in my throat" is apparently a cover of a song in the Japanese Monster movie "War of the Gargantuas". I read it in Psychotronic Video, so it mus be true.

Soukesian, Thursday, 15 September 2005 21:40 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...
DEVO REVIVAL
HALLELUJAH HOLLA BACK

Marmot (marmotwolof), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 07:35 (seventeen years ago) link

they've been uh "revived" for years now

passiflora incarnata (get bent), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 07:38 (seventeen years ago) link

I meant the thread

Marmot (marmotwolof), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 07:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I thought that I'd go back and try to re-appreciate Total Devo and Smooth Noodle Maps a couple weeks ago, production cornyness and gloss playing a non-factor.

It didn't work. Almost everything on those albums is just not Devo-ish at all.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 08:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, No! It's Devo is maybe underrated a little, but I haven't tried with those last three yet. Probably wouldn't even have given ONID a chance if it wasn't on the Freedom of Choice two-fer.

I'm getting into Devo again after not listenening to them much for about a decade. I've got that Complete Truth DVD coming in the mail, hopefully tomorrow.

Marmot (marmotwolof), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 08:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Devo is beyond classic

Uncontrollable Urge live in San Diego in 1981. My uncles were at this concert. Sadly, I was only 7 years old at the time, and could not go. :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BmxN3E548I

tylero (tylero), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 08:46 (seventeen years ago) link

i love this so much.
if you see this in the bins - just get it .. the audience interaction is great, and the stripped down versions of the classics are a joy to behold.

mark e (mark e), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 08:49 (seventeen years ago) link

"listenening"! I meant to do that.

Yeah, I want to hear some live stuff and the Hardcore demo stuff.

Marmot (marmotwolof), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 08:55 (seventeen years ago) link

"Gates Of Steel" on Now It Can Be Told is just amazing.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 09:56 (seventeen years ago) link

ahh. i love that one .. such a great track, therefore i should add my declaration

devo : seriously fuckin' classic.

mark e (mark e), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 10:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Anyone who says "dud" = dead to me.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 14:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Nice to see so much spud love on the ILX, but I'm surprised by the near-unanimity. Maybe by (proudly, aggressively) claiming to be the biggest geeks in the universe they kinda short-circuit the collective will-to-criticize. How do you call something lame when it wears total fucking lameness as a badge of honor? Self-conscious lameness can be a marvelous shield, and in this sense, DEVO are 90s indie-culture pioneers. Hooray.

Anyway, CLASSIC, of course. Esp the Hardcore Devo stuff, the initial round of videos and the first couple/three albums. Love to hear some of the early-early live shows mentioned upthread.

Adam Beales (Pye Poudre), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 15:08 (seventeen years ago) link

"I can see you" *waves hand suggestively in front of face*

You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 15:09 (seventeen years ago) link

devo on letterman 1982:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkZwHVM64qg

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 15:12 (seventeen years ago) link

live in 77 killz so hard:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oQql7XXx88

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 15:14 (seventeen years ago) link

it wears total fucking lameness as a badge of honor

wow, talk about missing the entire point

passiflora incarnata (get bent), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 15:21 (seventeen years ago) link

the song 'itchy itchy goo' is infectious.

i have been looking to download it for months now and can never find it.

devo = super.

nijoli (nijoli), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 15:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Passiflora Incarnata:

Point is that DEVO were proud of being uncool (by conventional standards, anyway). See "Through Being Cool" and basically their whole persona. They presented themselves as this angry, sarcastic bunch of outsiders, not asking for entrance to cool culture, but laughing at it from the outside.

Adam Beales (Pye Poudre), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 15:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Scourge:

??? I'm sure I'm missing something here...

Adam Beales (Pye Poudre), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 15:30 (seventeen years ago) link

schooled by dr dullard with ADAM BEALES

mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 15:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Adam, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2fqIosinRQ

You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 15:31 (seventeen years ago) link

love this live gates of steel from 1980:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZejmxvQAwY

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 15:33 (seventeen years ago) link

just in case someone hasn't seen devo & neil young, well, you must:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIMttc0ciKU

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 15:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Fuck a Mark. I get called on something, I say a few words in return. Hakuna matata, y'know?

Adam Beales (Pye Poudre), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 15:45 (seventeen years ago) link

>> the song 'itchy itchy goo' is infectious.
i have been looking to download it for months now and can never find it.

Song's called Goo Goo Itch - that might be why you can't find it? Search for Hardcore Devo and you should be abe to get it!

>> devo = super.

Oh yeah.

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 15:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Devo self-parodyizing as 'DOVE, the band of love' opening for themselves in 1980, doing 'It takes a worried man'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_k8JAMGXiI

Thank you YouTube

tylero (tylero), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 19:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Did Devo come up with the spastic scientist nerd synthesizer music thing all by themselves? Were there any obvious precursors? I'm not a huge fan by any means, but the creation of that whole style of music and nerdiness is a pretty gigantic achievement. There were tons of obvious sound-a-likes (the Plastics, the musical number in Revenge of the Nerds, half the bands on Urgh - a Music War!), and the style seems to have remained relevant to nerds through the late 80s.

Chris H. (chrisherbert), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 19:47 (seventeen years ago) link

"uncontrollable urge" is my ringtone. it always gets me pumped up to take a call!

M@tt He1geson: Sassy and I Don't Care Who Knows It (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 20:08 (seventeen years ago) link

The DOVE footage and an entire concert from 1980 is available on the "Devo Live 1980" http://www.amazon.com/Devo-Live-1980/dp/B0009CTUYG

Suffice to say it is awesome. The early part of the show mostly covers "Freedom Of Choice" material with the band rocking out on synths and keyboards. Gradually it becomes more like the 77-79 era and they move to heavy guitaring on the stuff from the first two albums, including some rarer songs like "Pink Pussycat". A couple surprises for me were how good Mark Mothersbaugh was as a singer, and how fucking tough Bob Mothersbaugh is as a guitarist. The solos on "Blockhead" and "Smart Patrol" are mindblowing. He well deserves the cover shot.

I think the brilliant "Urgh, A Music War" clip of "Uncontrollable Urge" is from this show (not sure though - it's been years since I saw that film.

My opinion is that almost everything is great up to and including "Oh No It's Devo" but they completely lost the plot after that. Total Devo is an absolute dog. Shout and Smoothnoodlemaps have one or two good songs each and are generally not as offensive. Search for "Are You Experienced" and "Devo Have Feelings Too" respectively.

The more recent Devo history is a McCartney-esque mix of inspired anthologising, depressing mythologising and embarrasing nostalgia outings.

In the first category the items to claim are the aforementioned live 1980 DVD, the "Hardcore" series, the Rhino Handmade cd that included the complete original recording of "Freedom Of Choice" with live drums, guitars etc and a ton of other goodies, and the best of the various "official bootlegs" available here: http://www.boojiboysbasement.com/

By the way the early, early live shows aren't that hot really other than for historical interest. The very first "Sextet Devo" 1973 Kent State show is on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_M9ZMo5TiU

In this lineup is Bob Lewis, who successfully sued them in the late 70's for intelectual property theft of the whole "Devolution" stuff.

everything (everything), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 20:12 (seventeen years ago) link

devo may be the only band that everyone likes

kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 20:31 (seventeen years ago) link

first record I ever bought was New Traditionalists, second was Oh No It's Devo. will always love this band.

milton parker (Jon L), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 20:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I love Devo.
Freedom of Choice, the song, sounds especially great when turned up waaay loud.

Zachary Scott (Zach S), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 23:56 (seventeen years ago) link

So classic. The first two albums, for me, are absolutely perfect.

do i have to draw you a diaphragm (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 11 January 2007 00:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Box set of early stuff on the way: https://shop.clubdevo.com/products/art-devo-1973-1977-box-set-akron-gold-vinyl-dev

Tracklist

Exhibit (A) 1973-1976
Boojis Industrial Death
Total Love
Auto Modown (Early version)
Space Girl Blues (Early version)
Live Forever
Androgyny (Live at Kent Kove 74)+
Fraulein (Kent Kove 1974)

Exhibit (B) 1973-1975
Bicentennial Birthday
Man From The Past
Midget/My Lai Mama (Kent Kove 74)
Shimmy Shake
All Of Us
Hubert House
The Tinkle Tune

Exhibit (C) 1973-1975
Private Secretary (Kent Kove 74)+
I Don’t Know Why
Dixie
Pigs Waddle (Kent Kove74)+
Death Of Lt. Casanova (Kent Kove 74)

Exhibit (D) 1975-1977
U Got Me Bugged (Instrumental version)
I Don’t Know What I Do Do
Huboon Stomp
Can U Take It (Early version)
Uncontrollable Urge (Early version)
Everything’s Gonna Be Alright
Falling In Love Again

Exhibit (E) 1975-1977
Devo Corporate Anthem (Early version)
Shrivel Up (Early version)
Smart Patrol (Early version)
I’m Lost at Home
Untitled
Never Go Back
Secret Agent Man (Mark vocal)

Exhibit (F) 1975-1977
Social Fools (Early version)
A Plan For U (Early version)
Nutty Buddy (Live at JB’s 76)
Dogs Of Democracy
Race Of Doom (Early version)
Space Junk (Early version)
Primal Satisfaction*
End Message

Exhibit (G) 1975
Untitled Montage (Harlan Hall)
Untitled Montage (Harlan Hall)

Exhibit (H) 1975-1977
Untitled Montage (Harlan Hall)
Untitled Montage (Greenwood)

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 10 July 2023 16:36 (nine months ago) link

Probably some overlap with the Hardcore releases, but can't really tell from the vague "early version" description. Honestly, I'd just rather have some more complete live shows from 1978-1981

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 10 July 2023 16:44 (nine months ago) link

I'm guessing they won't be the exact same recordings, if something is an "early version" of a tune that only appeared on Hardcore then I assume it's even earlier than that. I've heard the fanmade Hardcore 3 & 4 comp and although some of the material is interesting the recording quality is so low it's pretty much unlistenable. idk it's kinda hard to imagine there's anything worthwhile left in the vault after both the Hardcore & Recombo DNA releases (the latter of which really needs a repress), plus this is limited to 500 copies which implies it's for the hopelessly Devoted only. still worth a download I guess.

frogbs, Monday, 10 July 2023 17:04 (nine months ago) link

Race Of Doom (Early version)

assume that this is the version below which is very good and doesn't appear on Hardcore 3 and 4 comps, so maybe there is still some interesting stuff left to release?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PM3y01jb504

he thinks it's chinese money (soref), Monday, 10 July 2023 17:28 (nine months ago) link

interesting, looks like none of the pre-mark stuff here so no "columbo dick", also i guess they don't have a recording of beehive from this era? a lot of these songs aren't really good (many of them are on bootleg), but there's certainly some historical interest here. my gut here is that there isn't any overlap with the "hardcore" releases, that it's all stuff that wasn't on the hardcore records. we'll see tho! it would also be interesting to see the full "sextet devo" video see release.

anybody know where that long rehearsal take of "freedom of choice" is from and if there's any more where that came from?

Kate (rushomancy), Monday, 10 July 2023 19:34 (nine months ago) link

All all thread spuds aware of this site? https://boojiboysbasement.com Just checking...

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 11 July 2023 03:03 (nine months ago) link

two months pass...

anyone hear the boxset yet? I think most of the tracks have been compiled here:

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhWOj_4g_IpLiFuOzjGKNQxfpi1iEFNie

wondering if the sound has been cleaned up at all because most of these sound pretty rough. fun clicking through these though, feel like half their studio output has roots to that 1973-1977 period. even a couple of the songs on Total Devo!

frogbs, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 18:22 (six months ago) link

also, regarding the rough sound quality: I've kind of wondered if parts of the Hardcore comps were actually re-recorded since noticing that "Fountain of Filth" sounds like it was from a much later session. "I Need a Chick" specifically, the drums on that are nothing like the other tracks, and surely that sample at the end isn't from the 70's?

frogbs, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 18:27 (six months ago) link

listening to it now. really happy that the version on here is much less ambiguous than the previous version i heard - this is _definitely_ a satire on people who see androgyny as a threat, people who think it, I don't know, disfigures the face of man and woman, or something. it's actually really interesting because the attitude it's parodying _does_ strongly resemble the stupid shit bigots say about gender non-conforming people today.

sound quality is predictably rough but is _way_ better than the bootlegs of a lot of this material.

Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 26 September 2023 16:34 (six months ago) link

one month passes...

Consumer alert on the new 50 Years Of De-Evolution LP box set just released (via the Hoffmanites). Apparently "Smart Patrol" fades out at the end and "Mr. DNA" is dropped, which is just plain crazy to me. Also, all the New Traditionalists tracks are running fast.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 26 October 2023 07:25 (five months ago) link

whoa yeah, "Smart Patrol" is listed at 3:43, that's a baffling decision. I have never really thought of them as two separate tracks.

wonder if speeding up the NT stuff is because they felt it was too slow to begin with? I'd heard the tapes were damaged, or something...wonder if the CD's like that

anyway, I'm not really interested in this, looks to be very little new there. if you ask me they need to reissue Recombo DNA and/or Something For Everybody

frogbs, Thursday, 26 October 2023 13:34 (five months ago) link

basically just some single edits and a '74 version of "i'm a potato"?

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 26 October 2023 16:57 (five months ago) link

Re: New Tradionalists tape damage

New Traditionalists was the band's first fully self-produced album. It was recorded on a then-new brand of 2-inch tape from 3M. Unfortunately, when Devo began recording the vocals for the album, the edges of the tape had begun to disintegrate. After asking Warner Bros. if they could start over and re-record the album from scratch and being denied, Devo transferred all the work they had done to digital reel-to-reel tape and finished the album via digital recording at the Record Plant in Los Angeles, California.

Which IIRC caused the original vinyl/cassette release to sound a little muddy, and hich they were able to correct on the last CD master.

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 26 October 2023 17:01 (five months ago) link

three months pass...

Anyone else see Mark Mothersbaugh, Peter Conheim and Gerald Casale premiere the new restorations of their films at MoMA tonight? It was pretty nice - sold out but luckily they squeezed in a lot of people waiting in the standby line. (Spotted Steve Shelley in the audience - didn’t realize he was a big Devo fan.)

At one point, someone mentioned Gerald’s brother, Bob, and he said even though it’s been nearly ten years since his passing, he still hasn’t removed his number from his phone. Thought that was pretty sweet.

birdistheword, Sunday, 28 January 2024 04:27 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

Wow @ this. Jerry Casale interviewed on the BBC... in 1970!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqiMHbvpQQg

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Friday, 1 March 2024 20:18 (one month ago) link

two weeks pass...

"Next: UFO Expert"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1AdD6EfVuQ

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 06:46 (four weeks ago) link


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