Recommend Martial Arts Movies

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Crippled Masters exploitative or not?

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 27 January 2006 18:56 (eighteen years ago) link

I just today got Butterfly & Sword, The Blade and What Price Survival.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 27 January 2006 21:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Alex in SF, I want to watch movies at YOUR house. Yes, even though you robbed me of the chance to champion Heroic Trio.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 27 January 2006 21:11 (eighteen years ago) link

I can't remember what it is called, but there is a sequel to The Heroic Trio which is also pretty good (and much weird too.)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Saturday, 28 January 2006 00:59 (eighteen years ago) link

It's called The Heroic Trio 2: The Executioners or The Executioners (haha or if you go by the LITERAL english translation it is Modern Day Wonder Heroes Legend!!)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Saturday, 28 January 2006 01:02 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm falling behind on my martial arts movie DVD viewing. I think I could use one or two this week. Maybe tomorrow night after work.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Saturday, 28 January 2006 02:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Wait, so Fist of Legend has semi-historical Shotokan stuff in it? This is supposed to be that Funakoshi? I had no idea what to expect, and this is a surprise, since I dabbled in Shotokan karate for three months (after which my money ran out and it would have been time to be tested on the first kata--my reasons for leaving were a little of both). I had never sweated so much before in my life.

(Actually, I think Kung Fu is more interesting to watch.)

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Sunday, 29 January 2006 22:46 (eighteen years ago) link

imdb sez that the Funakoshi in FoL is named Funio, not Gichin. The actor, Yasuake Kurata has played Japanese heavies in about a million Shaw Brahs flicks.

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Monday, 30 January 2006 03:05 (eighteen years ago) link

I would take "Funio" as just being a nickname. He's definitely supposed to be the Funakoshi, imo.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Monday, 30 January 2006 14:29 (eighteen years ago) link

Or maybe not, now that I look at credits elsewhere. Is it possible he is a composite? There was another Shotokan teacher named "Fumio." I don't know why I'm so attached to all of this, but I guess my very brief daliance with Shotokan was pretty positive.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Monday, 30 January 2006 14:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Incidentally, something I did not mention: I was primed for all of this when the Shotokan symbol was flashed at the beginning of the film.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Monday, 30 January 2006 14:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Aside from the obvious Enter the Dragon, The Chinese Connection is a very good Bruce Lee movie.

"They've just never felt the sting of Japanese fists!"

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Monday, 30 January 2006 15:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Is there any footage available of Bruce Lee doing cha cha cha?

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Monday, 30 January 2006 17:55 (eighteen years ago) link

I keep thinking the title says "Recommend Martial Arts Moves"

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Monday, 30 January 2006 23:26 (eighteen years ago) link

That would be even awesomer.

Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 30 January 2006 23:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Haha I recommend you don't use Flying Crane style on a wet kitchen floor. Just saying s'all

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 30 January 2006 23:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Parting the White Horses Mane!

Pluck the Needle from the Bottom of the Sea!

Jade Lady Works the Loom's Shuttle!

Snake Creeping on the Ground!

(fwiw, these really are some faves of mine)

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 03:28 (eighteen years ago) link

six months pass...
I have b--t------ed and watched Jet Li's "Fearless." it's pretty much an equal mix of a canonization and a formula chop-socky flick. Plotwise, it's a return to Li's earlier classic 'Fist of Legend' and Bruce Lee's "Chinese Connection" (as well as some less famous movie versions of the story) with the lead character fighting in Shanghai against foreign opponents and stacked odds for the honor of China. Two things set this version apart from those that came before. First is the meticulous artsifartsiness of the art direction in general, and secondly is that for the first time in any version of this story I've seen, the protagonist (here a loose version of actual historical kungfu hero Huo Yuan Jia) has and actual character arc: to wit, an arrogant, selfish douchebag becomes such a wise and great master that even his arch-nemeses acknowledge his superiority not merely in martial prowess, but in universal virtue. The final shot of Jet Li wearing white silk and illuminated by moonlight as he practices kungfu out of pure joy and love is predictable AND moving, especially considering that this is allegedly the last wuxia film of his career (I credit this about as much as I credit the 'retirement' of your average superstar rapper, but time will tell.) Credit must be given to the fight choreography team, this is the first top notch kungfu I've seen in ages, and the first time since the aforementioned "Fist of Legend" I've considered Li's on-screen skill to be at the highest tier. Ronny Yu deserves credit for keeping the half of the film revolving around Huo's transformation from a vengeful and bullying drunk into a living saint from being too much of a drag. This part of the film, set in a tiny and remote farming village on an unreasonably gorgeous hillside is given just as much attention as the arena scenes, andhelped along in no small measure by the presence of the extremely charismatic love interest Yueci, although I confess I'm not entirely sure if she was supposed to be blind or not, or whether she was supposed to be the tragic orphan of one of Huo's early murders or not. There's a lot of significant looks from Li when she's aroung, but I'm not sure whether they're meant to evoke shame or guilt AND shame. Possibly the version I've downloaded off the interweb is missing some important exposition here (I know that the international market gets different, occasionally wildly different edits of this kind of vehicle.) The usual combination of enigma and incompetence in writing subtitles probably isn't helping. Or the vodka.

Anyway, for sheer spectacle - if not coherence or depth - I gotta recommend it.

100% CHAMPS with a Yes! Attitude. (Austin, Still), Thursday, 24 August 2006 00:16 (seventeen years ago) link

not a huge jet li aficionado but oohhh saw the trailer for that the other day, can't wait for it.

tremendoid (tremendoid), Thursday, 24 August 2006 01:14 (seventeen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
Iron Flag Shaw Brothers, Liu Chia Liang, Deadly Venoms

If it's true that after the balletic fighting and heroic, tragic gore the main charm of these things is the extravagantly terrible dubbing, this might be an alltime winner.

100% CHAMPS with a Yes! Attitude. (Austin, Still), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 01:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I keep hearing a radio ad for some new martial arts movie but forget the title. Something like "The Protector"? All I know is RZA does the ad, and he's a little hard to understand, but yet he manages to make the movie sound pretty sweet. He did all the music, and he also points out that there's no wire work or CGI, which is exactly what I like - pure, well choreographed fights.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 02:13 (seventeen years ago) link

That's the US title for the "Ong-Bak" followup mentioned earlier on this thread under the title "Tom Yum Goong." It's been available for some months as a semi-legal import DVD, which is how I saw it. It was pretty good - not the revelation "Ong Bak" was, but you never get a second first time. Anyway, I'll see it again in theaters, specifically to encourage more movies to be made like this, plus the new soundtrack should be worth the effort. There's also the little matter of the semi-legal dvd I watched seemed to have some shady, fucked up stuff like missing scenes.

100% CHAMPS with a Yes! Attitude. (Austin, Still), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 09:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes!! I saw the trailer for that movie when I went to see "A Scanner Darkly" and wished I were seeing Thai boxing, instead -- actually ALL the trailers looked better than the feature.

Also, do not see "No Blood, No Tears."

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 12:31 (seventeen years ago) link

The Fong Sai Yuk films starring Jet Li are particular favourites of mine - I like martial arts films that look ravishing but are actually batshit crazy. See also Kung Fu Hustle.

chap who would dare to start Raaatpackin (chap), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 12:38 (seventeen years ago) link

I have to chime in for _Kung Fu Hustle_. Absolutely absurd and over-the-top, a live-action cartoon if I ever saw one - but the fight scenes are absolutely amazing.

Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 23:03 (seventeen years ago) link

There are also some missing scenes in the US theatrical version of The Protector.

The Yellow Kid (The Yellow Kid), Thursday, 14 September 2006 04:08 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

I watched "Dynamite Warrior" last night, do not repeat my mistake. It tries to combine "Ong Bak" and "Kungfu Hustle" but fails to replicate any of the virtues of either, while also failing to bring in any original virtues of its own. The choreography sucks, the fx are weak, the jokes are dull, and the plot is too convoluted to follow or care about. There are several germs of good ideas in here, but none are developed in an interesting way at all.

I heard something about Tony Jaa being cast as a villain in the next Bond picture, though. That would be something worth seeing.

Oilyrags, Monday, 8 October 2007 13:51 (sixteen years ago) link

two years pass...

am i the only one who doesn't like Ong Bak much? i think its admirable that he avoided wire fu but too much of the action was one-sided and the story was much much dumber than usual. i liked some of the visuals but there's much better.

my choices:

king boxer (aka five fingers of death)
tai chi master
The Big Boss
Fists of Fury
Game of Death (despite the horrible crap they did w/ the Lee standins)
The 36th Chamber of Shaolin/Return to the 36th Chamber
five deadly venoms
enter the dragon
crouching tiger, hidden dragon
fearless
hero
bloodsport

San Te, Thursday, 8 July 2010 01:23 (thirteen years ago) link

legend of the wolf!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WnaQgQwGa4

i would advise against watching the entire movie though, its ~2/3rds filler, 1/3rd non-stop beat-em-up showdown. the donnie yen / wilson yip collabs are v nice too imo.

, Thursday, 8 July 2010 01:39 (thirteen years ago) link

yay, my Fist of the White Lotus dvd arrived.

San Te, Thursday, 8 July 2010 22:59 (thirteen years ago) link

the Octagon is on Showtime right now

the out-loud echoing whispered thoughts of Chuck are delicious

les yeux sans aerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Thursday, 8 July 2010 23:45 (thirteen years ago) link

NINJA Ninja ninja

Brad C., Friday, 9 July 2010 00:00 (thirteen years ago) link

hard to decide what recreational drug would be the best one on which to watch this movie - they'd all have their advantages

les yeux sans aerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Friday, 9 July 2010 00:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Just watched:

Crippled Avengers--I know the alternate title is "Return of the Five Deadly Venoms", but I for the life of me can't tell why, as it doesn't seem to have any noticeable link to that movie that I could see. I was enjoying what I saw of it then got sleepy and had to turn it off -- I hate when that happens!

Heroes of the East--A lot of fun. It felt more like a documentary on the differences/similtarities between Japanese/Chinese martial arts, but it was still a lot of fun.

Fist of the White Lotus--So incredibly BORING. Bought it as it had the famous Pai Mei character, AND, Gordon Liu, but after a fantastic opening this went nowhere fast. I mean it had good martial arts but the training sequences were meh.

The Mystery of Chessboxing--I bought it because of the Wu connection. And I didn't like it. The storyline wasn't terribly interesting and they threw the Ghostface Killer in your face with no real explanation within seconds of the movie's opening, which was quite confusing.

The Kid with the Golden Arm--Loved this. Not only did it have great fighting sequences, I enjoyed the storyline, the unique concept of the four different styles. Although I clearly got a bootleg and the entire movie is available with subtitles on Youtube (in much higher quality than what I got).

Also arrived/arriving in the mail:

Bloodsport (saw this when I was 8 -- regardless of whether Dux is a liar or not, can't wait to see this again)
Disciples of the Master Killer (aka Disciples of the 36th Chamber)
8-Diagram Pole Fighter

San Te, Tuesday, 13 July 2010 14:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Disciples of the Master Killer: Clearly the worst in the series, and not a very good film at all. Gordon Liu barely appears until the second half, and the story is a pointless waste. An insubordinate kid who is no better at the end than he was at the beginning?

The last 20 minutes are fairly exciting, but I was so exhausted from boredom from the first 70 minutes that it didn't matter. Oh well.

San Te, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 13:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Five Element Ninjas is highly recommended by me. holy fuck.

oh and finally got around to seeing Police Story with Jackie Chan. by far the most entertaining thing of his I've seen.

San Te, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 04:51 (thirteen years ago) link

"Duel of the Iron Fist" or the duel now playing in widescreen on youtube. David Chiang is fucking cutting motherfuckers.

This is a bad video copy of the trailer, go halfway through to the knife fights.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moRBZVZKn3U

this is part two of just some fighting here. intrigue and violence etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRwgb0fyWDI&feature=related

stupid stupid stupid (Zachary Taylor), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 06:08 (thirteen years ago) link

six months pass...

Um can I just say The flag of Iron is badass?

The end fight has some jawdropping choreography.

take yo shirt off, twist it round yo hand, spin it like a helikl0pter (San Te), Saturday, 19 February 2011 03:10 (thirteen years ago) link

I'll rep for Ip Man too.

take yo shirt off, twist it round yo hand, spin it like a helikl0pter (San Te), Saturday, 19 February 2011 19:16 (thirteen years ago) link

five months pass...

Trailer for Tsui Hark's latest: http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/independent/detectivedee/

looks bonkers!

Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Saturday, 23 July 2011 03:18 (twelve years ago) link

CROUCHING TIGER MEETS SHERLOCK HOMES!

Also I think there is a sequence where a deer gets flying kicked.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Saturday, 23 July 2011 14:17 (twelve years ago) link

can anybody recommend some Shaw Brothers movies not previously named itt. there's so many of them...

Neanderthal, Saturday, 23 July 2011 22:37 (twelve years ago) link

not sure if it is your cup of tea but i enjoyed a bunch of chu yuan's wuxia stuff, e.g. the sentimental swordsman, which stars di long as alcoholic guy who wanders the country and is chased around by people trying to do away with him for some mysterious reason

also some of the later ones have some really entertainingly bizarre sequences-- bloody parrot, portrait in crystal, demon of the lute

also remember soul of the sword being good...one of those ones that presents an ambivalent take on the whole chasing glories in the martial world thing

dell (del), Sunday, 24 July 2011 01:29 (twelve years ago) link

three months pass...

Can anyone ID this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc99HcPgKmk

pass the duchy pon the left hand side (musical duke) (Hurting 2), Sunday, 13 November 2011 07:22 (twelve years ago) link

duel to the death.

, Sunday, 13 November 2011 22:14 (twelve years ago) link

two years pass...

I wonder if The Raid series and Merantau are going to have any influence on the industry? I'd prefer there was some stylistic variety if there was a renaissance.

I had a phase that lasted maybe a year but I haven't returned much to the genre...

Zu Warriors From The Magic Mountain
Knockout
Spooky Encounters (the sequel has some great moments too)
Boxers Omen
Iceman Cometh (hilarious and underrated)
Drunken Master 2 (for fight scenes only)
Snake In The Eagles Shadow
Buddha's Palm (Shaw version)
Chinese Ghost Story 1-2-3
Merantau
The Raid
Rumble In The Bronx
Master Of The Flying Guillotine

I wouldn't recommend it as a whole but Ip Man has some great fights. But even most of my recommended films have significant flaws.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 19 April 2014 19:37 (nine years ago) link

Raid 2 was badass too

getting strange ass all around the globe (Neanderthal), Saturday, 19 April 2014 20:45 (nine years ago) link

raid 2 had soooo much 'crime movie' stuff that I really did not find very compelling. but whenever the action started up, man, all was forgiven.

original bgm, Saturday, 19 April 2014 21:32 (nine years ago) link

Can any of the heads or here help me out?
Years ago (mid 90s?) I saw a kung fu flick (a hisorical setting) where the hero had a secret technique, but every time he used it, he got more feminine... it was mostly played for laughs, and by the end of the film his part was played by a woman...
Can't remember the name... any ideas?

m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Thursday, 14 December 2023 11:24 (four months ago) link

at first i thought it was Clan of the White Lotus, but Gordon Liu's character was never played by a female at the end

Formica Jordan (Neanderthal), Thursday, 14 December 2023 15:26 (four months ago) link

...that's not it, but that's a good one..

m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Thursday, 14 December 2023 15:35 (four months ago) link

ppl on a different forum suggest Swordsman II?

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 14 December 2023 15:49 (four months ago) link

....don't think that's it either... I think I would've remembered if it had Jet Li in it... looks like a good one though...

m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Friday, 15 December 2023 03:28 (four months ago) link

is it this one?

http://tarstarkas.net/2014/06/fight-for-survival-review/

Honnest Brish Face (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 December 2023 07:25 (four months ago) link

"In this film, Polly’s character Shih Pu Chuan sets out to recover 10 books stolen from the Shaolin Temple, each volume teaching one kung fu technique, and each technique has been mastered by the respective theif of that volume. But, if you only learn one of the kung fu skills, your body soon begins to modify itself based on that kung fu skill. Thus, the guy who learns to extend his arms has permanent long arms. The guy who stretched his legs looks like he’s walking around on stilts. The woman who stole the Positive Kung Fu book turns into a man, and the guy who stole the Negative Kung Fu book turns into a woman."

Honnest Brish Face (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 December 2023 07:26 (four months ago) link

Not it, but that sounds worth a watch...

m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Friday, 15 December 2023 10:22 (four months ago) link

Let's keep them coming folks, we're mapping out a subgenre here!

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 15 December 2023 10:24 (four months ago) link

...yeah, I had no idea there'd be this many (or any) near misses...

m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Friday, 15 December 2023 11:30 (four months ago) link

can't believe that wasn't it tbh i thought i'd nailed it, yes this is obv a genre

Honnest Brish Face (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 16 December 2023 09:43 (four months ago) link

three weeks pass...

....anyone seen this "Fist of the Condor" flick from Chile?

m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Sunday, 7 January 2024 12:19 (three months ago) link

three weeks pass...

Korean Film Council just dropped this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg6_yPMn9Js

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 31 January 2024 11:46 (two months ago) link

ah well. it's Returned a Single-legged Man: 2, Korean martial arts cinema from the 70's.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 31 January 2024 11:47 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

So Close would have been a lot better if it wasn't striving to be so modern, it's a very post-Matrix film and (songs aside) the soundtrack is completely generic action movie stuff. Still kind of liked it, I had never seen Karen Mok in anything before, she is in an action trio with Shu Qi and Zhao Wei.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 11 March 2024 21:56 (one month ago) link

I don't tend to enjoy what little I sample of chinese pop stars but has anyone here heard much Karen Mok? She seems to be insanely popular, one of her concerts set a world record that I don't understand.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 11 March 2024 23:42 (one month ago) link


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