― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 4 July 2003 07:06 (twenty years ago) link
Fred: They're calling us pigs. That's meant to hurt!
Montserrat: I think you are too sensitive. Fred: Oh great, now we're too sensitive. Fred: I think it's well-known that anti-Americanism has its roots in sexual impotence, at least in Europe.
Fred: Maybe you can clarify something for me. Since I've been, you know, waiting for the fleet to show up, I've read a lot, and - Ted: Really? Fred: And one of the things that keeps popping up is this about "subtext." Plays, novels, songs - they all have a "subtext," which I take to mean a hidden message or import of some kind. So subtext we know. But what do you call the message or meaning that's right there on the surface, completely open and obvious? They never talk about that. What do you call what's above the subtext? Ted: The text. Fred: OK, that's right, but they never talk about that.
Seeing Barcelona again is suddenly urgent and in a very real sense, key.
― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 4 July 2003 07:17 (twenty years ago) link
― NA (Nick A.), Sunday, 15 February 2004 17:36 (twenty years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 14:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 14:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 14:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 14:46 (eighteen years ago) link
This probably means I should see all the films again, and kind of want to, but I recall them kind of depressing me while watching, and they seem too long because of that, which makes me always reject the idea. It's a conundrum. Maybe if he just made 25 minute shorts? A specialty-channel tv show? Dear Whit, that would be good.
― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 14:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 14:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 14:53 (eighteen years ago) link
I feel kind of guilty for how much I enjoy Stillman movies, too, but I think Metropolitan is genuinely good.
― horsehoe (horseshoe), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 16:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 16:11 (eighteen years ago) link
And Chris Eigmann [sic] is awesome in anything: "I thought the surealists were just a bunch of social climbers."
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 16:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― horsehoe (horseshoe), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 16:14 (eighteen years ago) link
Will wait for life to settle down and try again in a different mood, since everyone I love loves Whit Stillman.
― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 16:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 16:41 (eighteen years ago) link
I've heard about a million different projects he's supposed to be working on, all of them v. diff-sounding--a Thomas Jefferson thing, a Cultural Revoltion one and, most recently, something set in Jamaica.
― C0L1N B... (C0L1N B...), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 16:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― Redd Harvest (Ken L), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 16:50 (eighteen years ago) link
I mean this, from Variety in 2003:
Five years after his last movie, "The Last Days of Disco," American writer-director Whit Stillman is developing a Jane Austen project with Brit producer Stephen Evans. Paris-based Stillman, who first found fame with his Austen-esque comedies of preppy manners "Metropolitan" and "Barcelona," is adapting two unfinished Austen novels, "The Watsons" and "Sanditon," into a single script, titled "Winchester Races."
His script merges the character of Emma Watson, a girl returning to her family after a long absence being brought up by her aunt, and that of Charlotte Hayward from "Sanditon," an attractive country girl taken up by a family of comically optimistic real-estate speculators.
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 17:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― horsehoe (horseshoe), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 17:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 17:09 (eighteen years ago) link
Chris Eigeman is indeed awesome. I love his Whitman characters' rants about things, esp. in Barcelona on anti-Americanism and shaving.
He reminds me of TOMBOT.
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 17:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― Redd Harvest (Ken L), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 17:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 17:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― youn, Wednesday, 22 February 2006 01:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 01:21 (eighteen years ago) link
WS: And these internet things like “whatever happened to Whit Stillman?” (laughs) I wonder the same thing myself.
ha ha.
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 09:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 09:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 11:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 11:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 12:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 12:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 15:09 (eighteen years ago) link
I wrote a pilot for Chris Eigeman, feature player in Whit Stillman's Metropolitan, Barcelona, and Last Days of Disco. The network loved the script but wouldn't let Chris star in it. (And that is the TV business, folks.)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 18:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 18:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 18:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― Redd Harvest (Ken L), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 18:43 (eighteen years ago) link
Meanwhile, Krush Groove, which featured Jonah's brother, is the story of the birth of Def Jam Records, an event for which I was present, as label founder and producing legend Rick Rubin was one of my best friends at NYU. (I actually, ahem, play bass on the first two releases of the seminal hip-hop label.)
Warren Bell as Bernard Edwards!
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 18:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― the bellefox, Wednesday, 22 February 2006 19:00 (eighteen years ago) link
What does this mean? You are put off them because you perceive them as "trendy"? You feel as though they are not meant for you because you are not trendy enough? What are you on about, man?
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 19:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― the bellefox, Wednesday, 22 February 2006 19:07 (eighteen years ago) link
The first is snobbish and the second is insecure.
What it is about them that you think is trendy? The fact that they are spoken highly of by some on people on ILE?
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 19:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 19:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― Redd Harvest (Ken L), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 19:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― Redd Harvest (Ken L), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 19:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 19:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 23 February 2006 12:41 (eighteen years ago) link
At some work thing he told me he used to come to London in the mid-70s just as punk was spunking, due to family friends, but he misspent his time with sockless jet trash at Tramp and Annabel's instead (as you do). I thought he was great.
― suzy (suzy), Thursday, 23 February 2006 12:50 (eighteen years ago) link
was gonna say it's deep cuz it's in his blood since his grandfather invented the term "WASP." but turns out with quick search it was just his godfather. but still...
― andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Thursday, 23 February 2006 17:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Day The World Turned Dayglo Redd (Ken L), Sunday, 12 March 2006 01:46 (eighteen years ago) link
Tend to agree with Aerosmith - the sound balance in this film was not the best - whether this was about recording or the mix with the music.
LOVE & FRIENDSHIP I think is superior and very good. DID seems more like a stepping stone back to that level.
― the pinefox, Tuesday, 18 April 2017 08:37 (seven years ago) link
Love & Friendship was superior in every way, yeah. Especially like how it opens with a nod to Kubrick with the scoring.
― Carlotta's Portrait (Ross), Tuesday, 18 April 2017 19:07 (seven years ago) link
DiD made me laugh about five times as hard as L&F, which counts for something in a comedy, I suppose.
― Alba, Tuesday, 18 April 2017 19:25 (seven years ago) link
I enjoyed DiD more than L&F too. I think it would be easy to pick it apart, but I laughed hard and thought Gerwig was utterly charming.
― o. nate, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 00:35 (seven years ago) link
I've avoided seeing it precisely because of Gerwig.
― Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr, and Violent J (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 00:46 (seven years ago) link
I don't love her in everything, but I thought it was kind of a perfect part for her.
― o. nate, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 00:55 (seven years ago) link
Gerwig was perfect yeah
― Carlotta's Portrait (Ross), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 00:59 (seven years ago) link
The Amazon pilot is getting rebooted into a spy series.
https://www.vulture.com/2019/12/whit-stillman-the-cosmopolitans.html
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 20:36 (four years ago) link
This is great to hear! I really liked The Cosmopolitans pilot. His commitment to making the series happen puts me in mind of the Sambola!
― Alba, Wednesday, 4 December 2019 22:17 (four years ago) link
And he's still hoping to make his Jamaican film.
― Alba, Wednesday, 4 December 2019 22:27 (four years ago) link
Haven't made it through the whole interview, but having not really known a lot about Stillman himself previously, I'm amazed how autobiographical his early movies were (worked in publishing in the late '70s, moved to Barcelona afterwards etc.).
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 22:43 (four years ago) link
I'd been fearing just this. pic.twitter.com/dLLH5HVkfC— Whit Stillman (@WhitStillman) June 24, 2020
― ℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Friday, 26 June 2020 00:47 (three years ago) link
Stillman on Twitter is really leaning into "lifetime white-shoe Republican repulsed at what his party has become"
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 9 March 2022 21:47 (two years ago) link
Despite the Gerwigmania gripping our nation, not only is Damsels In Distress OOP on both DVD & Blu, it's also not streaming except as a rental from Direct TV (or as a purchased download from the usual suspects).
Somebody should get on that.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 8 January 2024 18:34 (three months ago) link
and the Cosmopolitans pilot while they're at it.
― bulb after bulb, Monday, 8 January 2024 18:46 (three months ago) link
Oh yeah, that's not officially available<anywhere>
Except there's a epk promo on YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Il8Xc8UYPA
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 8 January 2024 19:05 (three months ago) link